JUST A "HEADS-UP" CONCERNING YOUR FLAK GUNS

SeaviewSkipper · 01-25-15, 01:42 AM

Hi everyone. This is probably old news, but for any of you who don't know, I very strongly suggest you get the twin 20mm AA gun mounts fore and aft, if you can. I use them on my Balao-class boat and they are superb. Just make sure you have an ace gunner with a "guns" rating of 85 or better on each mount. That usually entails using a petty officer, which may not be the most realistic scenario, but, if you want to have the best protection from those pesky Zeros and Bettys, that's the way to go. I very rarely crash dive when enemy planes approach any more, unless there are more than two.
Happy hunting! Jeff

Sailor Steve · 01-25-15, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SeaviewSkipper

That usually entails using a petty officer, which may not be the most realistic scenario...

The US Navy has a PO rating called 'Gunner's Mate'. It certainly is realistic.

SeaviewSkipper · 01-25-15, 07:57 AM

Absolutely right Steve. Thanks. I forgot that. My two have the eyes of eagles!

Crannogman · 01-25-15, 10:52 AM

"Watch" is another important skill for a gunner. When I started my current career there was a NCO with Guns 109 and Watch 124 - he's magnificent

merc4ulfate · 01-25-15, 09:48 PM

Get some good mods that are more realistic and you will not like to shoot at aircraft any longer. Submarines did not duke it out on the surface since survival was fairly 100% assured 200 feet below the surface.

Schroeder · 01-26-15, 06:42 AM

Germany tried to use U-boats equipped with 4x 20mm flak to take on the ever growing thread from the air.... didn't work so well so I wouldn't suggest to use it unless in extremely calm weather. But SH4 has it's own logic about that and shooting down aircraft isn't that difficult.

Armistead · 01-26-15, 08:49 AM

It's nice to see new players come along that enjoy the game and talk about it.

Like others have said, load some mods. Stock is like eating a hot dog when you could be eating steak with TMO. Mods have actually kept this game going for years and people continue to keep modding it. Not only will you get a better game, you'll get much better graphics as stock is tuned way down back then run more systems to play it.

With stock you can fight about anything on the surface and win, except capital ships. With TMO late war you can get duel 20's and duel 40 bofors to take on planes when needed. Also, plane traffic is maddening with stock.

Sailor Steve · 01-26-15, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Stock is like eating a hot dog when you could be eating steak with TMO.

Or a darn good home-grilled burger with RFB.

SeaviewSkipper · 01-26-15, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Crannogman

"Watch" is another important skill for a gunner. When I started my current career there was a NCO with Guns 109 and Watch 124 - he's magnificent

Wow! I don't currently have anyone who has a "Guns" rating over 100. Thanks for the tip about the "Watch" rating.

SeaviewSkipper · 01-26-15, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by merc4ulfate

Get some good mods that are more realistic and you will not like to shoot at aircraft any longer. Submarines did not duke it out on the surface since survival was fairly 100% assured 200 feet below the surface.

Yes. I realize that. I've been studying naval history for almost 50 years, especially submarines.
At least I can have some fun before I get TMO and some other mods, right?

SeaviewSkipper · 01-26-15, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

It's nice to see new players come along that enjoy the game and talk about it.

Like others have said, load some mods. Stock is like eating a hot dog when you could be eating steak with TMO. Mods have actually kept this game going for years and people continue to keep modding it. Not only will you get a better game, you'll get much better graphics as stock is tuned way down back then run more systems to play it.

With stock you can fight about anything on the surface and win, except capital ships. With TMO late war you can get duel 20's and duel 40 bofors to take on planes when needed. Also, plane traffic is maddening with stock.

Yes. I've been putting-off getting the mods because I'm so ignorant about how to install and manipulate the downloaded files. But Peter, "Theberbster" has given me some help and offered more assistance. But, for me, even his great tutorials are difficult to fathom.
I'm going to take the plunge soon, though. I just have to decide what mods to get, other than TMO and probably RSRDC. Thanks.

Armistead · 01-26-15, 06:03 PM

You'll find plenty people here willing to help you. I remember years ago when I did it took me hours to finally get it and then it seems so simple....

Been over a year since I've played, getting ready to load back up myself.

TorpX · 01-27-15, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Stock is like eating a hot dog when you could be eating steak with TMO.

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Or a darn good home-grilled burger with RFB.

All this talk of mod cuisine is making me hungry.

Sailor Steve · 01-27-15, 01:51 AM

Fire up the grill. I'll be over in ten minutes.

Crannogman · 01-27-15, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SeaviewSkipper

Wow! I don't currently have anyone who has a "Guns" rating over 100. Thanks for the tip about the "Watch" rating.

My mistake, he's actually Guns 124 and Watch 103

01-25-15, 01:42 AM	#1
SeaviewSkipper Loader Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 84 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	JUST A "HEADS-UP" CONCERNING YOUR FLAK GUNS Hi everyone. This is probably old news, but for any of you who don't know, I very strongly suggest you get the twin 20mm AA gun mounts fore and aft, if you can. I use them on my Balao-class boat and they are superb. Just make sure you have an ace gunner with a "guns" rating of 85 or better on each mount. That usually entails using a petty officer, which may not be the most realistic scenario, but, if you want to have the best protection from those pesky Zeros and Bettys, that's the way to go. I very rarely crash dive when enemy planes approach any more, unless there are more than two. Happy hunting! Jeff

01-25-15, 10:52 AM	#4
Crannogman Watch Officer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Posts: 343 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	"Watch" is another important skill for a gunner. When I started my current career there was a NCO with Guns 109 and Watch 124 - he's magnificent __________________ "The sea shall ride over her and she shall live in it like a duck" ~John Ericsson

01-25-15, 09:48 PM	#5
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	Get some good mods that are more realistic and you will not like to shoot at aircraft any longer. Submarines did not duke it out on the surface since survival was fairly 100% assured 200 feet below the surface. __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

01-26-15, 06:42 AM	#6
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Germany tried to use U-boats equipped with 4x 20mm flak to take on the ever growing thread from the air.... didn't work so well so I wouldn't suggest to use it unless in extremely calm weather. But SH4 has it's own logic about that and shooting down aircraft isn't that difficult. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

01-26-15, 08:49 AM	#7
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	It's nice to see new players come along that enjoy the game and talk about it. Like others have said, load some mods. Stock is like eating a hot dog when you could be eating steak with TMO. Mods have actually kept this game going for years and people continue to keep modding it. Not only will you get a better game, you'll get much better graphics as stock is tuned way down back then run more systems to play it. With stock you can fight about anything on the surface and win, except capital ships. With TMO late war you can get duel 20's and duel 40 bofors to take on planes when needed. Also, plane traffic is maddening with stock. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

01-25-15, 07:57 AM	#3
SeaviewSkipper Loader Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 84 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Absolutely right Steve. Thanks. I forgot that. My two have the eyes of eagles!

01-26-15, 06:03 PM	#12
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	You'll find plenty people here willing to help you. I remember years ago when I did it took me hours to finally get it and then it seems so simple.... Been over a year since I've played, getting ready to load back up myself. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

01-27-15, 01:51 AM	#14
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Fire up the grill. I'll be over in ten minutes. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo