U.S. Links North Korea to Sony Hacking

vienna · 12-17-14, 07:16 PM

It seems they have found a "smoking gun":

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/18/wo...king.html?_r=0

In a side story, Dick Cheney is claiming the discovery was made thanks to 'enhanced' interrogations at Gitmo and GW Bush is calling for a reinvasion of Iraq...

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u crank · 12-17-14, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

In a side story, Dick Cheney is claiming the discovery was made thanks to 'enhanced' interrogations at Gitmo and GW Bush is calling for a reinvasion of Iraq...

Stop smoking that stuff.

Skybird · 12-17-14, 08:10 PM

If that evidence shows to be solid. the proper thing to do would be to show the film then - and make it crystal clear to Pyongyang that any hostile Northkorean action, attack or terror strike would inevitably lead to an immediate full scale military retaliation against NK that the regime would not survive.

To allow a precedent being created to self-censor media because a lunatic teror regime threatens hostilities if the media would not be censored, is unacceptable. It would mean that a whole nation allows to get taken hostage by some insane scumbag on the other side of the world. Is that the attitude America wants to get associated with? I do not want to believe that.

vienna · 12-17-14, 08:18 PM

Good point on the self-censorship. Another film has apparently bitten the dust:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6344520.html

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Onkel Neal · 12-17-14, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

To allow a precedent being created to self-censor media because a lunatic teror regime threatens hostilities if the media would not be censored, is unacceptable. It would mean that a whole nation allows to get taken hostage by some insane scumbag on the other side of the world. Is that the attitude America wants to get associated with? I do not want to believe that.

Are you kidding? That's totally how America is now.

At least we have gay marriage.

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Dread Knot · 12-17-14, 09:38 PM

If it is true that release of the film has been cancelled I think it's tragic that a totalitarian regime like North Korea can use cyber terrorism to censor the free expression of Western movie makers. It brings to mind the bullying of Salman Rushdie after publication of The Satanic Verses. But although he had to go into hiding, at least the book was published and available. It makes you wonder what gets pulled next by cyber-threat... an unflattering quarterly report? A documentary? An expose?

We should have the freedom to laugh at Kim Jong-un and his ilk on the silver screen. This tradition stretches back to Charlie Chaplin in The Great Dictator. Or the Warner Brothers and Disney cartoons in the 1940s that lampooned Tojo, Hitler and Mussolini. Those cartoons may not have been politically correct, but those guys hardily deserved PC. Someone stated that the one thing dictators can not abide is being lampooned. Very true and all the more reason why the film should be released.

August · 12-17-14, 11:05 PM

What interests me is that the reports I hear say that the NK's "ordered" the hack rather than conducted it themselves. Ordered the attack from who I wonder?

Rockstar · 12-17-14, 11:09 PM

Dare I say it? Nuke'em all!

vanjast · 12-18-14, 01:21 AM

No man... you lot have it wrong..
NK is the 51st state of the USA and Kim is a puppet put there to create trouble and distract you from other things... like turning the US into an military state so that 'richard-head' cheney and his cronies.. bush.. et al, can take over the world.... tomorrow.

Oberon · 12-18-14, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by August

What interests me is that the reports I hear say that the NK's "ordered" the hack rather than conducted it themselves. Ordered the attack from who I wonder?

I think they ordered a Chinese.

Oberon · 12-18-14, 07:02 AM

Dread Knot · 12-18-14, 07:34 AM

It does make you wonder what the government of Kazakhstan could do with a little effort to Sasha Baron Cohen if he ever decided to reprise the character of Borat.

Kazakhstan greatest hackers in the world. All other countries hack like little girls.

Catfish · 12-18-14, 07:38 AM

@Oberon: Surely it was a chinese hacker they paid, probably ate up NK's gross national product for the next 20 years.

I have always wondered though, how anyone could misunderstand the "Team America" film as being "patriotic". Especially after the veteran explains his patriotic view of the world to "Matt Damon" in the pub, and the resulting vomiting scene.

Wolferz · 12-18-14, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

Stop smoking that stuff.

Or pass it.

Jimbuna · 12-18-14, 08:49 AM

Whilst I don't agree with the film being pulled I think foremost in theatre companies minds will have been the possibility of any nut job or terrorist organisation carrying out the dirty deed/atrocity in the name of whatever anywhere in the world.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,717 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	If that evidence shows to be solid. the proper thing to do would be to show the film then - and make it crystal clear to Pyongyang that any hostile Northkorean action, attack or terror strike would inevitably lead to an immediate full scale military retaliation against NK that the regime would not survive. To allow a precedent being created to self-censor media because a lunatic teror regime threatens hostilities if the media would not be censored, is unacceptable. It would mean that a whole nation allows to get taken hostage by some insane scumbag on the other side of the world. Is that the attitude America wants to get associated with? I do not want to believe that. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,720 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Good point on the self-censorship. Another film has apparently bitten the dust: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6344520.html <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,227 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What interests me is that the reports I hear say that the NK's "ordered" the hack rather than conducted it themselves. Ordered the attack from who I wonder? __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,803 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	@Oberon: Surely it was a chinese hacker they paid, probably ate up NK's gross national product for the next 20 years. I have always wondered though, how anyone could misunderstand the "Team America" film as being "patriotic". Especially after the veteran explains his patriotic view of the world to "Matt Damon" in the pub, and the resulting vomiting scene. Last edited by Sailor Steve; 12-18-14 at 07:43 AM. Reason: Inappropriate language

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Dread Knot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,288 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	If it is true that release of the film has been cancelled I think it's tragic that a totalitarian regime like North Korea can use cyber terrorism to censor the free expression of Western movie makers. It brings to mind the bullying of Salman Rushdie after publication of The Satanic Verses. But although he had to go into hiding, at least the book was published and available. It makes you wonder what gets pulled next by cyber-threat... an unflattering quarterly report? A documentary? An expose? We should have the freedom to laugh at Kim Jong-un and his ilk on the silver screen. This tradition stretches back to Charlie Chaplin in The Great Dictator. Or the Warner Brothers and Disney cartoons in the 1940s that lampooned Tojo, Hitler and Mussolini. Those cartoons may not have been politically correct, but those guys hardily deserved PC. Someone stated that the one thing dictators can not abide is being lampooned. Very true and all the more reason why the film should be released.

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Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Dare I say it? Nuke'em all!

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vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,740 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	No man... you lot have it wrong.. NK is the 51st state of the USA and Kim is a puppet put there to create trouble and distract you from other things... like turning the US into an military state so that 'richard-head' cheney and his cronies.. bush.. et al, can take over the world.... tomorrow.

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Dread Knot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,288 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	It does make you wonder what the government of Kazakhstan could do with a little effort to Sasha Baron Cohen if he ever decided to reprise the character of Borat. Kazakhstan greatest hackers in the world. All other countries hack like little girls.

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,964 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Whilst I don't agree with the film being pulled I think foremost in theatre companies minds will have been the possibility of any nut job or terrorist organisation carrying out the dirty deed/atrocity in the name of whatever anywhere in the world. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!