Muslim Divorce Indian Style!

[Neptunus Rex]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12038469/from/RS.1/

[scandium]

Originally Posted by Neptunus Rex

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12038469/from/RS.1/

Well that's a rather simple approach to things eh?

[STEED]

[TteFAboB]

Beetle-juice! Beetle-juice! Beetle-juice!

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

Beetle-juice! Beetle-juice! Beetle-juice!

"You called?!"



Seriously though...if I say
"New computer, new computer, new computer."
in my sleep, does that mean the missus is duty bound to go out and buy me one?


Come to think of it...I wonder if it works on other...simpler commands...

[tycho102]

Originally Posted by Neptunus Rex

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12038469/from/RS.1/

YUP! And there are guys whose job is basically just to spend a night with a female, have sex with her, and divorce her the next day...all so she can remarry her first "husband". There are tribes in Africa that do something like that, with a "healer" male having sex with various women to rid them of evil spirits.

When I first read about that (the Islamic divorce thing), I just figured it was one of those argument-winning strategies.

"blue."
"Green."
"blue.
"No, I want the room painted green!"
"I DIVORCE YOU!"
"ooooookay. Blue it is."



Incans built their empire off the Chancas. Aztecs built their empire off the Mayans. Mongols the Chinese. Egyptians the Jews. Americans the Africans.

Islam has built it's empire off the women. Even Aisha realized it.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by tycho102

Americans the Africans.

and the Irish Don't forget that the Irish had to fight the African Americans for the worst jobs at the end of the 19th century. I lived about 3 miles from the Erie Canal when I grew up, about century before I lived there the area was Irish slums for the workers digging the canal.

(Incase you havn't guessed I'm part Irish.)

[Vinay]

Muslim Divorce Indian Style!

In what way is it Indian style? It is purely Arabic in style.

In India we are facing an issue of parallel Islamic courts (The issuing of fatwa by religious leaders). The Indian Supreme court has asked information in this regard from the government.

[Neptunus Rex]

Originally Posted by Vinay

In what way is it Indian style? It is purely Arabic in style.

In India we are facing an issue of parallel Islamic courts (The issuing of fatwa by religious leaders). The Indian Supreme court has asked information in this regard from the government.

A play in words there, but factually correct.

Muslim(Islam) for religion of the couple involved and council issuing the decision.

Indian for the location (India) of the same couple and the council issuing the decision.

I don't recall any mention in the article of Arabs.

[Vinay]

Indian for the location (India) of the same couple and the council issuing the decision.

So you will call the 9/11 attack as American style attack since it occured in the U.S?

You cannot link such uncultured fatwa with Indian style. It is purely Hardcore Islamic fundamentalism which originated from Arabia.

[Vinay]

Talaq in sleep: Couple registers marriage
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The Muslim couple in West Bengal’s Jalpaiguri district, whose marriage hangs in the balance as the husband uttered talaq thrice in his sleep, have registered their marriage in a civil court.

Aftab Ansari (30), a brick kiln worker, had been ordered by a village Moulavi to separate from his wife Sohela, after 11 years of marriage, for having uttered talaq thrice in his sleep on December 20.

Aftab, who has been put under constant surveillance and was not allowed to meet any outsider, however, said that he had registered his marriage in Alipurduar sub-divisional court after the Moulavi’s ruling.

Aftab, who conceded that he was living in constant fear due to threat from community members, said that he has to go by the orders of his community members. “Who is here to help me, I have to live with them.�

A village Moulavi, Maulana Md Kausar also warned that no outsider should speak to the couple. “This is a problem of our community, we will settle it among ourselves, don’t publicise it,� he said.

Maulana Kausar said that a decision regarding the fate of the marriage of Aftab would be taken by the village elders in April but refused to give details on how the matter would be dealt with. Aftab said that the move to register his marriage in a civil court was taken after village elders decided to enforce talaq and directed the couple to live separately.

Registration

Maulana Kausar, however, said that they had not forced the couple to live separately as they were still living together but at the same time refused to accept the civil marriage registered by Aftab.

He said that though the marriage may have been registered in a civil court and the couple were living under the same roof, the marriage did not have religious sanctity.

Recounting the events of the fateful night, Aftab said, “That night I was not in my senses and my wife said I had uttered talaq thrice in my sleep.� Subsequently his wife innocently narrated the incident to a friend and from there the word spread to the rest of the village dominated by Muslims.

The community elders, quoting Shariyat law, ruled that talaq had been enforced and the couple had to live separately.

Maulana Kausar and other villagers, however, denied the earlier reports that the family had been ostracised for failing to obey the Moulavi’s order. Angry villagers blamed the media for having blown the incident out of proportion.

[Abraham]

Originally Posted by Vinay

...
Angry villagers blamed the media for having blown the incident out of proportion.

Ah, the Muslim emergency exit from accepting responsability again!

[Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense]

i'm sorry guys... this is shameful, all this anti muslim rhetoric that i'm noticing around here lately...

surely we must be much better than this... much better...

the history of christianity as far as male female relations go is rampant with examples like this, and much worse... which, like this one, shows or proves nothing about christians or muslims... but more about the screwed up legal systems in place at the time and places of these events.

in my gut feeling, in spite of a lot of the 'news' lately, this sorta stuff is just wrong...


--Mike

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense

i'm sorry guys... this is shameful, all this anti muslim rhetoric that i'm noticing around here lately...

surely we must be much better than this... much better...

the history of christianity as far as male female relations go is rampant with examples like this, and much worse... which, like this one, shows or proves nothing about christians or muslims... but more about the screwed up legal systems in place at the time and places of these events.

in my gut feeling, in spite of a lot of the 'news' lately, this sorta stuff is just wrong...

I haven't participated on this thread until now because indeed this thread's sole purpose seems to be to mock.

Yet, Mike, I challenge you to show us the rhetoric on the essential issue of the dangers of Islam to the non-Islamic world.

A good example would be the "Goodbye Europe" thread. If you wish to argue that the essential points and proofs of that thread are wrong, please do so. While there are always people around who base their opinions heavily on emotion and less on fact, there are many people here ready to listen to reason.

Regarding your comparison of Christianity to Islam with regard to the treatment of women based on irrevocable religious doctrine, I don't see the comparison. Enliighten us.

You have a gut feeling. Sometimes that's good. Yet you brush away recent years' "news" and the vast amount of information now openly and easily accessable to one and all in these matters.

I'm willing to face facts. Are you? If some of us here have got them wrong, correct us.

[Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense]

sorry A Lady... i'm not gonna rise to your challenge... i make it a point to never try and convince anyone who is obviously already so convinced about something that they might be wrong... and you sure do seem to be convinced of something...

you would have me engage you in a debate over stupidity... foolishness... ignorance... all the higher points of life... sorry, i'm gonna leave that to all of you who would rather focus on the negative aspects of life instead of what is good and worth living for... you'll have to fight your wars without me... at least on this forum anyways...

ya know A Lady... ignorance and stupidity are formidable enemies...

regardless of which side you happen to be on...

add the element of religion to the mix, and it even becomes a stronger foe...

everyone of you on both sides of this are undoubtedly 200% right...


nahhh... not me... sorry A Lady... you'll have to find someone else to debate your 'facts' with... i've been to your part of the world... probably before you were even born... your 'facts' mean nothing to anyone who has first hand knowledge of some of the things that have going on there for generations now... and in spite of that, there are still those on both sides that refuse to be part of the senselessness...

ya see, i have no agenda... at least not one that you might recognize as one... jew, gentile, christian, muslim, bhuddist, atheist... moonee... you're all the same to me...

the exceptional person is the one who can see through all the bs... and still show love and compasion for his/her fellow man and woman... they are our only hope... the rest of you lack the sight to see the light... and i refuse to darken my world with your lack of vision... you need better eyes to see what is real in the world... your lack of vision will be your eventual ruin... and i really would rather not be a party to or participate in your ruination...

it's not really your fault though...

like i just said above, foolishness, ignorance... formidable foes... and it's easy to be seduced by such a powerful enemy.
if you could see through the fog that ignorance and stupidity has blanketed so many of us with, you would see that your real enemy is that which has seduced you... foolishness, ignorance, stupidity...

now i'm a lil busy. i must cut this short... i'm really only here for the submarines... not for the sublimation...

--Mike