This is terrible. Thought we were Sapiens

[Skybird]

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Editori...-exodus-329050

Just one quick snapshot. Jews have come increaisngly under fire in Europe, and especially in urban places with great influx of Muhammeddan migrants have chosen to withdraw and to flee from Muslim discrimination and attacks that all to often get glossed over and get marginalised by the political establishment and the political left. Places seeing an accelerating rush-out by Jews, include Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Paris, Marsseille, Malmö, Romania, Poland, Bulgaria and the Scandinavian sphere in general.

This corresponds with the growth in European politics and public opinion that the Palestinians are victims of Israeli conquest and that all would be good if one increasingly criticis Israel and takes a heabily biased stand against it. The attitude that is hostile towards Jews, is old and never was goine away. The only thing that has chnaged today is that today it is called by other, unsuspicious names. But the essence is the same. And this hypocrisy and split-tongued moral posing, last but not least aimed at appeasing Islam, is what pisses me so about it.

[Platapus]

I am pretty sure that if someone put together a similar poll using Muslim stereotypes that the percentage of people with anti-Muslim beliefs would be higher... especially in the US.

[mapuc]

Thank you all for giving your answer to this issue

What I understand from this Israel and Jew problem is that there are 3 different people

1. Those who hate the state Israel and their politics against the Palestine's
2. Those who hate the Jews, such as the Neo-Nazis, radical Islam
3. Those who hate both Israel and the Jews

I know from from friends that are either Jew or live among them that there are lots of hate against them. (Skybird mentioned it in one of his thread in here).
I was only chocked that it was that high

Yes the hatred against Islam is high too, have kicked some of my former friends out because of this. Same goes to people that hate Jews, Hindus a.s.o

Markus

[Catfish]

And then there are those who think the current government of Israel (not all of its inhabitants) is wrong with its foreign politics, especially vs. palestinians. The critics do not deny the past, nor have they no understanding of the israelian point of view. They are often called Nazis or anti-Israel, by the israelian hawks.

And then there is this film 'defamation'. Only found this one, in english:

edit: German, english subtitles:

It is not about denial. Watch it, it's worth it

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Catfish

And then there are those who think the current government of Israel (not all of its inhabitants) is wrong with its foreign politics, especially vs. palestinians. The critics do not deny the past, nor have they no understanding of the israelian point of view. They are often called Nazis or anti-Israel, by the israelian hawks.

And then there is this film 'defamation'. Only found this one, in english:

edit: German, english subtitles:

It is not about denial. Watch it, it's worth it

Thanks for the link are watching it right now.

When I wrote State Israel- I meant the government and the politics.

Markus

[Alex]

[mapuc]

^ Alex, is it the survey you laugh about or what is it.

Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

When I wrote State Israel- I meant the government and the politics.

They're a democracy so they are one and the same as their people Markus.

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by mapuc

^ Alex, is it the survey you laugh about or what is it.

Markus

He's laughing because he's known for being proud of being that 1 in 4

[Alex]

Originally Posted by mapuc

^ Alex, is it the survey you laugh about or what is it.

Markus

About the simple fact no one notices the obvious.
You're all random people thinking the way you like, your own way.
And above you ?
There's that self-proclaimed elite telling you who you really are at heart. The funny thing is that some people will tend to believe that stuff.

On Kosher statistics.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Alex

About the simple fact no one notices the obvious.
You're all random people thinking the way you like, your own way.
And above you ?
There's that self-proclaimed elite telling you who you really are at heart. The funny thing is that some people will tend to believe that stuff.

On Kosher statistics.

I try not to be in this Square where these elite want me to be.

I support Israel to have a country and the right to protect itself and the right to perform whatever religion they want, but that's almost all. I don't like the kosher( I know it's a part of their religion, I don't have to like it) and the way they treat the Palestine's

Markus

[Mittelwaechter]

You have to be an a$$hole to be intolerant and to instigate - no matter what religion or nationality.
So if a German, a British, an Israeli, a Muslim, a Christian or a Jew - you name it - act like an a$$hole, he is just that - and obviously disliked.
If the majority are a$$holes or if the minority are a$$holes - there will be tension - there may be blood.


I guess, it would have been a way better idea to give them California or Wales or Denmark, because the people there are more likely to leave in peace and search for new homes. - - - -
Less effort to protect themselves and the religion wouldn't be a problem either - with all those tolerant Christians around.

Ok, joke aside.
The child has been dropped into the well already. The only remaining solution is a two-state-solution now. To me it seems, Israel is not interested at all.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I support Israel to have a country

I support everyone to have a country myself.
And while you respect Israel to have a country, do you also respect Palestinians to have their own ?

You should make familiar a bit with the way of thinking of some good man like Norman Finkelstein for example.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Alex

I support everyone to have a country myself.
And while you respect Israel to have a country, do you also respect Palestinians to have their own ?

You should make familiar a bit with the way of thinking of some good man like Norman Finkelstein for example.

You gave me a good question

Anyone is free to help me out here

Did the Palestinian have a country before the state Israel was born?

Some say they haven't some say they have

And I'm confused... Have read both sides argument if Palestine's had a country long time ago, then they should have country by their own, if not..then it's up to our leaders to decide if they shall have and how big it should be and how it's border should be a.s.o

Markus

[Oberon]