sinking for no reason

Amazigh1337 · 04-30-14, 07:59 PM

first off i was posting this on the wrong forum (SH3)

anyhow i encountered a few times sinking totaly damaged by unknown means and thus again read following:

ok, it happend again, on patrol at Iowa Jima, not moving, time compression up to 125 for about 5 minutes (RL) at periscope depth.

Nothing being detected, time compression to x1, i turn on silent running, 1/3 ahead, ping for bottom... over 1000 meter, change depth to 30 m (periscope depth was at 17meters) because i think i would get a better reading for finding ships at 30m depth, as soon i hitted 30meter depth, i take a huge load of damage in superb fast succession (crew start spamming damage reports like insane) and sink, game over camera before i can even act or hit the blow ballast hotkey.

fireftr18 · 04-30-14, 09:27 PM

What mods are you using? Stock has a few mines, TMO adds whole minefields. Is there any hull damage? If there is enough, then you can't dive at all.

Amazigh1337 · 04-30-14, 10:01 PM

the one and only mod i'm using = "Green lights" so that the pressed buttons turn green insted of the standard buttons. so i can actualy see if i got silent running on or off (for example), no hull damage as far as i know, all seemd to be in order appart from quite empty torpedo tubes.

running SH4 1.4 (getting 1.5 tomorrow aftrer a good sleep)

Warren Peace · 04-30-14, 10:06 PM

I'm gonna say mines, the things I fear almost more than anything (the things I fear most in SH4 are those tiny little islands that only show up on the navmap when zoomed in REALLY far, just drove into another one earlier today).

They tend to be few and far between, but will utterly ruin your day if you find 'em.

merc4ulfate · 04-30-14, 10:51 PM

mines or a subnet ... subnets will kill you quickly.

bandit484 · 05-01-14, 01:05 PM

Another possibility is airplanes. They can easily see a submerged boat that is at 30 meters depth.

Amazigh1337 · 05-01-14, 02:47 PM

its either planes or a spy onboard or some bug somewhere, mines or anti-subnets (haven't encountered nets appart from SH3 yet so far tho) are attached to the bottom and since the bottom is over 1000 depth, thats quite unlikely.

planes still doubtfull tho, sice 40 seconds before i dived from periscope depth to 30m depth, i was with periscope and thus also Radar active, and nothing was seen on radar by any of my officers (i still play on "easy"-custom settings, need to get back into the game before the real deal :-) )

Armistead · 05-01-14, 04:12 PM

I don't think there has ever been a bug of your sub dying, simply, something killed you..

Amazigh1337 · 05-01-14, 07:04 PM

japanese subs?

didn't happen anymore tho

TorpX · 05-02-14, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead

I don't think there has ever been a bug of your sub dying, simply, something killed you..

Yes.

SHCE was more polite. You would get a message: killed by shell, killed by mine, etc., etc.

Fizwalker · 05-03-14, 07:04 PM

I had an incidence where, I thought my crippled sub was maintaining depth of around 140ft and went into time compression..... Alas, and being completely surprised, she had hit 500ft and thus... Was crushed to death. Needless to say, there was much gnashing of teeth at this occurrence. I calmed down a bit after thinking through the likely chain of events.... Granted, I don't know the status of your boat when yours too met its fate, but it's possible that it met it's test like mine... And similarly, failed it.

merc4ulfate · 05-11-14, 09:59 PM

I was avoiding some British escorts the other day and upon diving to safety promptly hit a mine which was part of a mine field I never knew was there. I had to surface to save the crew and got pummeled until the boat sank but I kept the deck gun going on the two escorts until the crew got off .... and I sank with the boat and with one escort.

Admiral8Q · 05-12-14, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amazigh1337

i take a huge load of damage in superb fast succession (crew start spamming damage reports like insane) and sink, game over camera before i can even act or hit the blow ballast hotkey.

In a hostile area, 125x time compression is too much. Don't go much abouve 8 or 16x is my advice.

04-30-14, 07:59 PM	#1
Amazigh1337 Seaman Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Belgium Posts: 39 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	sinking for no reason first off i was posting this on the wrong forum (SH3) anyhow i encountered a few times sinking totaly damaged by unknown means and thus again read following: ok, it happend again, on patrol at Iowa Jima, not moving, time compression up to 125 for about 5 minutes (RL) at periscope depth. Nothing being detected, time compression to x1, i turn on silent running, 1/3 ahead, ping for bottom... over 1000 meter, change depth to 30 m (periscope depth was at 17meters) because i think i would get a better reading for finding ships at 30m depth, as soon i hitted 30meter depth, i take a huge load of damage in superb fast succession (crew start spamming damage reports like insane) and sink, game over camera before i can even act or hit the blow ballast hotkey. Last edited by Amazigh1337; 04-30-14 at 08:01 PM. Reason: typo correction

04-30-14, 10:06 PM	#4
Warren Peace Loader Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 89 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	I'm gonna say mines, the things I fear almost more than anything (the things I fear most in SH4 are those tiny little islands that only show up on the navmap when zoomed in REALLY far, just drove into another one earlier today). They tend to be few and far between, but will utterly ruin your day if you find 'em. __________________ The only sound that still scares me to this day... The silence when the pinging stops.

04-30-14, 10:51 PM	#5
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	mines or a subnet ... subnets will kill you quickly. __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

05-01-14, 04:12 PM	#8
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I don't think there has ever been a bug of your sub dying, simply, something killed you.. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it. Last edited by Armistead; 05-01-14 at 04:37 PM.

05-11-14, 09:59 PM	#12
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	I was avoiding some British escorts the other day and upon diving to safety promptly hit a mine which was part of a mine field I never knew was there. I had to surface to save the crew and got pummeled until the boat sank but I kept the deck gun going on the two escorts until the crew got off .... and I sank with the boat and with one escort. __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

04-30-14, 09:27 PM	#2
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	What mods are you using? Stock has a few mines, TMO adds whole minefields. Is there any hull damage? If there is enough, then you can't dive at all.

04-30-14, 10:01 PM	#3
Amazigh1337 Seaman Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Belgium Posts: 39 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	the one and only mod i'm using = "Green lights" so that the pressed buttons turn green insted of the standard buttons. so i can actualy see if i got silent running on or off (for example), no hull damage as far as i know, all seemd to be in order appart from quite empty torpedo tubes. running SH4 1.4 (getting 1.5 tomorrow aftrer a good sleep)

05-01-14, 01:05 PM	#6
bandit484 Medic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 165 Downloads: 523 Uploads: 0	Another possibility is airplanes. They can easily see a submerged boat that is at 30 meters depth.

05-01-14, 02:47 PM	#7
Amazigh1337 Seaman Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Belgium Posts: 39 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	its either planes or a spy onboard or some bug somewhere, mines or anti-subnets (haven't encountered nets appart from SH3 yet so far tho) are attached to the bottom and since the bottom is over 1000 depth, thats quite unlikely. planes still doubtfull tho, sice 40 seconds before i dived from periscope depth to 30m depth, i was with periscope and thus also Radar active, and nothing was seen on radar by any of my officers (i still play on "easy"-custom settings, need to get back into the game before the real deal :-) )

05-01-14, 07:04 PM	#9
Amazigh1337 Seaman Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Belgium Posts: 39 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	japanese subs? didn't happen anymore tho

05-03-14, 07:04 PM	#11
Fizwalker Seaman Join Date: May 2014 Location: Illinois Posts: 40 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	I had an incidence where, I thought my crippled sub was maintaining depth of around 140ft and went into time compression..... Alas, and being completely surprised, she had hit 500ft and thus... Was crushed to death. Needless to say, there was much gnashing of teeth at this occurrence. I calmed down a bit after thinking through the likely chain of events.... Granted, I don't know the status of your boat when yours too met its fate, but it's possible that it met it's test like mine... And similarly, failed it.