US companies protest against surveillance

[Catfish]

http://reformgovernmentsurveillance.com/

Of course because companies worldwide may choose other software in the future.. too late though, the US seems to have no idea which impact this GCHQ and NSA surveillance and industrial espionage has had on the 'rest' of the world.

The next Exchange server (just of all the MS EMail server) will be placed in - you guessed it - the 'cloud'.
Any company that follows that way will be either a producer of low grade crap products, unbelievably dumb, or it will store its mails and all secret company drawings elsewhere.

[vanjast]

Who votes these people into office ?

[Schroeder]

Aren't those the companies that make their bucks by spying on people?

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by vanjast

Who votes these people into office ?

Who do you mean ?
The secret services are not being voted, they stay. You cannot base the future of your country on democratic, unstable and changing politicians and their agendas.

[Catfish]

Ah, also that ..
"NSA spying stretched into online gaming: report"

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell...gaming-report/

Lol, maybe they recruit their next generation of spies there ?
At least unemployment will be gone when all work for the new Stasi organisations, and now all can play games the whole day, officially.
Since the personnel of the NSA and GCHQ obviously use the system to spy on own relatives and friends i see great opportunities ahead, for gamers.

Hey, if anyone of you guys is interested in me playing SH4 and 5 the whole day while paying me for that, call me!

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Hey, if anyone of you guys is interested in me playing SH4 and 5 the whole day while paying me for that, call me!

No way...you call me.

[Catfish]

Of course, there's not only Silent Hunter. They have extensively spied around the World of Warcraft online games.

I wonder if i have underrated them. They must be somehow successful, since i never heard of an Orc committing a terroristic attack

[mookiemookie]

Are they in Silent Hunter Online yet?

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Are they in Silent Hunter Online yet?

They tried, but the connection to the UBI server had failed so often with SH5, they gave up altogether

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Aren't those the companies that make their bucks by spying on people?

Smart man.

Those companies compile data on their users and use said data to market products at them.How they can complain about snooping when they themselves snoop is hypocrisy at its height.

This is like a mob boss saying that he wants to stomp out organized crime.

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Smart man.

Those companies compile data on their users and use said data to market products at them.How they can complain about snooping when they themselves snoop is hypocrisy at its height.

This is like a mob boss saying that he wants to stomp out organized crime.

Yes, but gubermint doing snooping doesn't create profit. You gotta snoop yer'self and sell that stuff to gubermints!

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Smart man.

Those companies compile data on their users and use said data to market products at them.How they can complain about snooping when they themselves snoop is hypocrisy at its height.

This is like a mob boss saying that he wants to stomp out organized crime.

Not really.
People using the services of these companies agree to the terms set out in documents which most people simply click to say "yes" without reading them.
Governments and their agencies however agree to a different set of terms which says arbitrary surveillance is a violation of the right to privacy which is a human right.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Not really.
People using the services of these companies agree to the terms set out in documents which most people simply click to say "yes" without reading them.
Governments and their agencies however agree to a different set of terms which says arbitrary surveillance is a violation of the right to privacy which is a human right.

The Freedom of Information Act.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Not really.
People using the services of these companies agree to the terms set out in documents which most people simply click to say "yes" without reading them.
Governments and their agencies however agree to a different set of terms which says arbitrary surveillance is a violation of the right to privacy which is a human right.

Yeah but show me a person who actually reads an ELUA or any other contract for that matter.

Hell people do not read contracts on much more vital things such as employment contracts business contracts much less Facebooks ELUA.

I recall way back when I enlisted in the military after high school the guy at the in processing center tried to get me sign up as a "guaranteed" job. I refused and told him that the fine print said that that really means nothing I go where they need me most not where I want.The guy laughed and said "Smart kid you actually read the contract you'll do well in life".

Not like this little campaign will change anything no government will actually agree to that and everyone knows it.Even if they "do" their fingers will be crossed and they will wink as they talk about it.

And those companies say they care about privacy really? If they truly did and a government ordered them to do something if they had any real integrity they would have shut their service down and informed everyone what was happening.None of them did that so when I see them making these little change campaigns I see it for the pathetic joke that they really are.No what they care about is profits and they play this little game to fool people into thinking that they are not in cahoots with the whole thing.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The Freedom of Information Act.

Not quite, I meant article 12 on the declaration of human rights.