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Old 11-10-13, 03:36 PM   #1
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Default Banning Trans Fats

Normally, I am against government banning just about anything, but in the case of trans fats, I find myself okay with it.Anyone agree, disagree? I will admit my knowledge of this is limited, some reading on subject is in progress but I do tend to trust science in most cases, we know trans fats are terrible for us, likely a major factor in heart disease epidemic in our nation.This is where seemingly logical, practical, actions conflicts with principle, bit torn on the subject.
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Old 11-10-13, 04:00 PM   #2
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I'm of the opinion I don't want anyone banning something for my own good.

We've seen to often how that leads to basic rights being taken away.


We've also seen that once something is banned? A simple change in it's chemical make up bypasses the bans. With a usual bad out come. (Bath Salts come to mind)

If you are going to protect me by banning Trans fats?
I'd expect you'd want to protect me by makeing me wear a helmet when I ride my Triumph.

How about a ban on obese people eating junk food?
Say scales at all Fast food joints and if you get pinged you can't eat there?
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Old 11-10-13, 04:24 PM   #3
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Normally, I am against government banning just about anything, but in the case of trans fats, I find myself okay with it.Anyone agree, disagree?
Strongly disagree.

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I'm of the opinion I don't want anyone banning something for my own good.

We've seen to often how that leads to basic rights being taken away.


We've also seen that once something is banned? A simple change in it's chemical make up bypasses the bans. With a usual bad out come. (Bath Salts come to mind)

If you are going to protect me by banning Trans fats?
I'd expect you'd want to protect me by makeing me wear a helmet when I ride my Triumph.

How about a ban on obese people eating junk food?
Say scales at all Fast food joints and if you get pinged you can't eat there?
This.


As an aside, If i turn into a fat fricking pig; It is my own damn fault for making poor choices. However at least the choice was mine to make. If trans fat is such a big public health issue, then I would agree to warning labels , or something that otherwise advises of the possible consequences of the decision i was about to make, but the decision should always be up to the individual to make. Kinda like tobacco I suppose.

This is suppose to be a free country. Where you can live your own life as you see fit for yourself.

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Personal responsibility, it seems to be a novel concept these days. I'm kinda partial to it myself.
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Old 11-10-13, 04:27 PM   #4
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They tried it in 'American Dad'...

It didnae work.....

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Normally, I am against government banning just about anything, but in the case of trans fats, I find myself okay with it.Anyone agree, disagree? I will admit my knowledge of this is limited, some reading on subject is in progress but I do tend to trust science in most cases, we know trans fats are terrible for us, likely a major factor in heart disease epidemic in our nation.This is where seemingly logical, practical, actions conflicts with principle, bit torn on the subject.
I'd call it Darwin at it's best - do not ban that stuff.
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Old 11-10-13, 04:45 PM   #6
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Don't want trans-fats? Don't eat processed food.

Buy fresh ingredients and cook them yourself, it may cost a little more but what cost is quality of life?
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Old 11-10-13, 04:48 PM   #7
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I'd say have Mrs. Obama start a 'Put the Donut down' thing like Mrs. Reagan's 'Just say No' joke.


I also find it strange You of all people would kind of agree with anything like this!
Is this some kind of test?
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Old 11-10-13, 04:58 PM   #8
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Why would anyone want to pester obese transsexuals?
They are people too
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But do you not set a line on what should and shouldnt be banned? Drugs are banned. Fireworks are banned in many places.

So who decides where the line is drawn?
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Old 11-10-13, 05:25 PM   #11
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Ban trans fat, what will poor people eat?
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Ban trans fat, what will poor people eat?
Soylent Green. What else?
That's why you can't ban trans fats! We're feeding future foods!
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Drugs are banned.
I think if one has enuff money? Drugs ain't banned just 'regulated'.
Most things I see about drugs? I'd rather suffer the problem not the cure!
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Soylent Green. What else?
That's why you can't ban trans fats! We're feeding future foods!
My wife and I went to Walmart to get a few things today. Checking out the lady in front of me had two carts full of groceries...steaks, ice cream, chips, several bottles of soda, junk food galore.....and paid with it with a food stamp card....like $310.....

Didn't know they gave out that much........eats better than we do and we use coupons...
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Old 11-10-13, 06:56 PM   #15
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No.

Everything you need to know is here.


Want a hot apple pie?

My favorite part of this whole documentary is the part about lawyers (@25 min).
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