When your politician share false information

mapuc · 10-19-13, 04:33 PM

I must share something that have occurred a few times on my FB-wall

I have some Danish politician as friend on FB and the other day one of them showed a picture and made a note under it.

He was angry about Red Cross Planting trees to honour the fallen Palestinians who had died during act of suicide bombings.

I admit that even I got angry when reading about it. Until some one made a statement that it was a lie and a big lie.

I made some investigation of my own and to what I can see it is a lie and from exactly where this story has it origin I don't know

If it had only been him sharing this false information everything would have been fine. Later on two other politician Had shared this info.

The next day this info had been shared so many times.

When a lie is being told many times...can't remember the exact phrase.

Markus

mapuc · 10-19-13, 04:37 PM

Here's the article I was referring to

http://www.yourjewishnews.com/2013/05/27143.html

Markus

Oberon · 10-19-13, 05:35 PM

Winston had a saying for this:

"A lie can travel halfway around the world in the time it takes the truth to get its shoes on."

Lots of fake news stories depend on provoking an outraged reaction from the reader who then passes them on without stopping to research the veracity behind them, and so on and on it flows. The internet has just increased our flow of information to maximum, be it false or accurate. If I had a pound for every time I've seen one of those "Warning, don't flash your lights at a car..." type reposts on facebook, I'd be a very rich man.
Thankfully, Snopes (http://www.snopes.com/) is a godsend and usually pretty good at smashing the rumour mill, but usually the masses will just reply with "Oh, well, it doesn't hurt to be careful." Indeed, careful about passing on false information...

Sailor Steve · 10-19-13, 06:01 PM

I have to agree. I don't remember what the subject was, but I saw a blog some time ago that had people up in arms, screaming for something to be done. Every now and then someone would post a link to the original story, which showed it to be a fake, and everyone would just ignore it and keep on ranting. It was quite a show.

mapuc · 10-19-13, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I have to agree. I don't remember what the subject was, but I saw a blog some time ago that had people up in arms, screaming for something to be done. Every now and then someone would post a link to the original story, which showed it to be a fake, and everyone would just ignore it and keep on ranting. It was quite a show.

Same here. When this female politician shared this info(second person to share) many of her friends and some of mine gave their opinion on this.....until I posted my answer telling her and those who had written in her thread, condemning Red Cross, that it was a lie.

As far as I can I will fight against lies when possible.

Markus

Jimbuna · 10-20-13, 05:31 AM

As Oberon quoted...the internet makes it easier and quicker for the falsehoods to travel.

ETR3(SS) · 10-20-13, 06:47 AM

Anytime a story comes up on my FB news feed I like to play whack-a-mole to disprove it if it is indeed false. One time I couldn't confirm or deny a story so I reposted the story asking for help to do so. I got quite the colorful response.

Oberon · 10-20-13, 06:54 AM

And then, of course, there's the press...take for example the recent story that the government has told people to wear jumpers in winter to keep warm, which has lead to left leaning websites and facebook groups (such as Condemned Nation) to produce and forward stuff like this:

But the problem with this is...Cameron never actually said that, as this BBC article sets out:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24586951

So, not only do you have the problem of politicians and people believing things that the internet has made up, you also have news publications making stories out of things that were never said, and then that just feeds into the relevant camps diatribe.
These days trying to sort the truth from the lies or spin can be a full time job...

STEED · 10-20-13, 07:03 AM

^ He hinted it without saying out right.

Quote:

Jumpergate

Give me a break, gate this gate that gate bloody gate. I'm sick of it!

Jimbuna · 10-20-13, 09:20 AM

Well we certainly don't want any Watergate next to that electric fire or the old dear will get electrocuted.

10-19-13, 04:33 PM	#1
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,548 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	When your politician share false information I must share something that have occurred a few times on my FB-wall I have some Danish politician as friend on FB and the other day one of them showed a picture and made a note under it. He was angry about Red Cross Planting trees to honour the fallen Palestinians who had died during act of suicide bombings. I admit that even I got angry when reading about it. Until some one made a statement that it was a lie and a big lie. I made some investigation of my own and to what I can see it is a lie and from exactly where this story has it origin I don't know If it had only been him sharing this false information everything would have been fine. Later on two other politician Had shared this info. The next day this info had been shared so many times. When a lie is being told many times...can't remember the exact phrase. Markus

10-19-13, 06:01 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I have to agree. I don't remember what the subject was, but I saw a blog some time ago that had people up in arms, screaming for something to be done. Every now and then someone would post a link to the original story, which showed it to be a fake, and everyone would just ignore it and keep on ranting. It was quite a show. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-20-13, 05:31 AM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,818 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	As Oberon quoted...the internet makes it easier and quicker for the falsehoods to travel. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-20-13, 06:47 AM	#7
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Anytime a story comes up on my FB news feed I like to play whack-a-mole to disprove it if it is indeed false. One time I couldn't confirm or deny a story so I reposted the story asking for help to do so. I got quite the colorful response. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

10-20-13, 09:20 AM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,818 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Well we certainly don't want any Watergate next to that electric fire or the old dear will get electrocuted. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-19-13, 04:37 PM	#2
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,548 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Here's the article I was referring to http://www.yourjewishnews.com/2013/05/27143.html Markus

10-19-13, 05:35 PM	#3
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Winston had a saying for this: "A lie can travel halfway around the world in the time it takes the truth to get its shoes on." Lots of fake news stories depend on provoking an outraged reaction from the reader who then passes them on without stopping to research the veracity behind them, and so on and on it flows. The internet has just increased our flow of information to maximum, be it false or accurate. If I had a pound for every time I've seen one of those "Warning, don't flash your lights at a car..." type reposts on facebook, I'd be a very rich man. Thankfully, Snopes (http://www.snopes.com/) is a godsend and usually pretty good at smashing the rumour mill, but usually the masses will just reply with "Oh, well, it doesn't hurt to be careful." Indeed, careful about passing on false information...

10-20-13, 06:54 AM	#8
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	And then, of course, there's the press...take for example the recent story that the government has told people to wear jumpers in winter to keep warm, which has lead to left leaning websites and facebook groups (such as Condemned Nation) to produce and forward stuff like this: But the problem with this is...Cameron never actually said that, as this BBC article sets out: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24586951 So, not only do you have the problem of politicians and people believing things that the internet has made up, you also have news publications making stories out of things that were never said, and then that just feeds into the relevant camps diatribe. These days trying to sort the truth from the lies or spin can be a full time job...