U.S. options in Iraq worsen as unrest grows

STEED · 02-27-06, 07:55 AM

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...qoptions_x.htm

Bit of a problem for Mr Bush.

Skybird · 02-27-06, 11:29 AM

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The Avon Lady · 02-27-06, 11:35 AM

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We knew that when we saw that the link wasn't 200 pages long.

bradclark1 · 02-27-06, 11:36 AM

I think that stands to reason, but there is never going to be a right time to do anything in Iraq anyway.

STEED · 02-27-06, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1

I think that stands to reason, but there is never going to be a right time to do anything in Iraq anyway.

Good Point it's a tricky situation for Mr Bush

blue3golf · 02-27-06, 01:40 PM

I've been there twice now and the funny thing is they don't want freedom or anything else. They want it their way, period.

STEED · 02-27-06, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by blue3golf

I've been there twice now and the funny thing is they don't want freedom or anything else. They want it their way, period.

If that's the case it's time for the US and the UK to pull out.

The Avon Lady · 02-27-06, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

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Originally Posted by blue3golf

I've been there twice now and the funny thing is they don't want freedom or anything else. They want it their way, period.

If that's the case it's time for the US and the UK to pull out.

Before we can deal with Iran...

And read the accompanying comments.

Iceman · 02-27-06, 03:11 PM

Funny to listen to you guys talk about world politics.If America followed the "Rules" of War...then Iraq would now be America's footstool..all opposition killed...all oil would now be in Total U.S. control...ya babble on about what to do what to do...well the choices are clear.....take the same stance as Hitler or Japan in it's thinking of warfare or do it the current way which is NOT the way of WAR.

My understanding of war in the past the spoils always went to the victor.

Don't confuse me in what I say or mean...all I mean is be careful for what you wish for....America already has the games from the old Ceaser/Roman era...It in only a matter of time till the coliseum games return and Iraqi's or whoever are cast into the arena for fun.

Great World huh?

Skybird · 02-27-06, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blue3golf

I've been there twice now and the funny thing is they don't want freedom or anything else. They want it their way, period.

It's their place, so it is okay with me. Our effort should be to keep them where they are.

Skybird · 02-27-06, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

And read the accompanying comments.

You eventually mean comments like this...?

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That light in Bush's/Condi's eyes more closely resembles a TV test-pattern than intelligence.

:rotfl:

STEED · 02-27-06, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blue3golf

I've been there twice now and the funny thing is they don't want freedom or anything else. They want it their way, period.

It's their place, so it is okay with me. Our effort should be to keep them where they are.

So we pull out of Iraq but stay put in the Middle East?

Skybird · 02-27-06, 05:29 PM

Do you know what the German word "ZwickmÃ¼hle" means? Generally it means that whatever you do, you loose. There is no option in terms of a solution. Stay there, or pull out - it doesn't matter. The only solution would be to go back to 1991 and then not stopping in the middle of the action again (and evading all the other traps that would have popped up after the removal of Saddam back then: for example wanting to install a democracy there - that was the mother of all follies. But noone believed me in 2003, and I assume you will not believe me today.)

STEED · 02-27-06, 05:38 PM

A mess made even worst and yet there is more to come a greater mess?

blue3golf · 02-27-06, 06:13 PM

We can't win either way. Pulling out means we lose everything and those that didn't come home was in vain. If we stay it's gonna be the same as now. Maybe isolationism like back in the day wass the way to go.

02-27-06, 07:55 AM	#1
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	U.S. options in Iraq worsen as unrest grows http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...qoptions_x.htm Bit of a problem for Mr Bush. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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02-27-06, 05:29 PM	#13
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,612 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Do you know what the German word "ZwickmÃ¼hle" means? Generally it means that whatever you do, you loose. There is no option in terms of a solution. Stay there, or pull out - it doesn't matter. The only solution would be to go back to 1991 and then not stopping in the middle of the action again (and evading all the other traps that would have popped up after the removal of Saddam back then: for example wanting to install a democracy there - that was the mother of all follies. But noone believed me in 2003, and I assume you will not believe me today.) __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-27-06, 05:38 PM	#14
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	A mess made even worst and yet there is more to come a greater mess? __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

02-27-06, 11:36 AM	#4
bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	I think that stands to reason, but there is never going to be a right time to do anything in Iraq anyway.

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blue3golf Weps Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Traverse City, MI Posts: 352 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've been there twice now and the funny thing is they don't want freedom or anything else. They want it their way, period.

02-27-06, 03:11 PM	#9
Iceman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mesa AZ, Arizona, USA Posts: 1,253 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Funny to listen to you guys talk about world politics.If America followed the "Rules" of War...then Iraq would now be America's footstool..all opposition killed...all oil would now be in Total U.S. control...ya babble on about what to do what to do...well the choices are clear.....take the same stance as Hitler or Japan in it's thinking of warfare or do it the current way which is NOT the way of WAR. My understanding of war in the past the spoils always went to the victor. Don't confuse me in what I say or mean...all I mean is be careful for what you wish for....America already has the games from the old Ceaser/Roman era...It in only a matter of time till the coliseum games return and Iraqi's or whoever are cast into the arena for fun. Great World huh?

02-27-06, 06:13 PM	#15
blue3golf Weps Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Traverse City, MI Posts: 352 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	We can't win either way. Pulling out means we lose everything and those that didn't come home was in vain. If we stay it's gonna be the same as now. Maybe isolationism like back in the day wass the way to go.