Bloodbath in Egypt

True, but this is the first attack since Morsi was knocked down that has taken place against shipping in the Suez is it not? Obviously it is quite debatable whether this is related to the MB, let's face it there's a lot of unrest in the area, and the MB is but one group.

The MB is but one group, groups have been there since god knows when, they have been tolerated supported or hunted by Egyptian governments as the fancy takes them.
As a measure of the craziness that prevails, Al-Qaida in the Sinai claims the MB is a Zionist plot because they took part in elections, the new Egyptian dictator claims the MB is a Zionist plot to destabilise the country.

[MH]

...and tribesman is at loss and .... mumbo jumbo!!!!

Not that skybird is much of mr spook but it is all about having fun anyways lol .

(apologise for my lack of seriousness here lol)

[Jimbuna]

Egypt to try ex-president Morsi

Egypt's state prosecutor says he has referred ousted President Mohammed Morsi for trial on charges of inciting the murder of protesters.
The accusations relate to violence outside the presidential palace in Cairo last December when seven people were killed in clashes.
Fourteen other members of the Muslim Brotherhood are to stand trial on the same charges.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/23924145

Somebody certainly means business.

[eddie]

My, how quickly things change over there!

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Even if the president was democratically elected, if he was chosen by the people?

Yes because many of the same people who voted for him wanted him gone, because he lied to get elected.The reason politicians do this is they figure they will lie to get elected then deal with after some time in office.The people of Egypt stood up and the via the military he was tossed out.The people have the right to change their mind and throw them out before they are able to cause damage.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

The people have the right to change their mind and throw them out before they are able to cause damage.

Not really. We are bound by the law and can't throw anybody out until it has been proven that he broke the laws that bind him. The proper procedure has to be followed, and that can't happen until after at least some damage has been done.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Not really. We are bound by the law and can't throw anybody out until it has been proven that he broke the laws that bind him. The proper procedure has to be followed, and that can't happen until after at least some damage has been done.

Well Morsi lied to get elected and was trying to turn Egypt into an Islamist state.Sure, they knew they were voting for the muslim brotherhood but figured he'd govern moderately and that proved not to be case.Fed up, they had him thrown out before the cancer had time to spread and was not treatable.Sometimes, have to say to hell with "proper procedure"

Yes because many of the same people who voted for him wanted him gone, because he lied to get elected.The reason politicians do this is they figure they will lie to get elected then deal with after some time in office.The people of Egypt stood up and the via the military he was tossed out.The people have the right to change their mind and throw them out before they are able to cause damage.

That might make some sense if the protesters were asking for the military dictatorship to be re-installed, but they were asking for early elections.
Its why so much of the opposition jumped ship after martial law made a comeback.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Not really. We are bound by the law and can't throw anybody out until it has been proven that he broke the laws that bind him. The proper procedure has to be followed, and that can't happen until after at least some damage has been done.

The big stopper there is that the ruling elite can and does abuse its power to tailor laws that way that it protects them. Berlusconi in Italy has done so very obviously, but the elites do so in every country. Even the basis and fundament of legislation and law-making, constitutions, get eroded. Same abuses happen with the resources of a nation, they get abused to the max since the one elected into office has only temporary access to them and so thinks he must make as much use of them as possible as long as they are available to him. Result: constantly accumulating negative effects. The record debt burden is the most obvious symptom.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Well Morsi lied to get elected and was trying to turn Egypt into an Islamist state.Sure, they knew they were voting for the muslim brotherhood but figured he'd govern moderately and that proved not to be case.Fed up, they had him thrown out before the cancer had time to spread and was not treatable.Sometimes, have to say to hell with "proper procedure"

Ah, you were still talking about the Egyptians. Never mind.