Massive prison break in Iraq

eddie · 07-22-13, 11:44 AM

Nothing but bad news coming out of Iraq lately (don't want to turn this into a political rant over Iraq war either-start a different thread if you want to go there)

Bombing after bombing has been going on, over 3,000 killed this year so far. I keep thinking of just how incompetant the Iraqi police and military are in stopping this. Imagine this going on in a country in the West, most would respond with a massive influx of security forces, but Iraq doesn't seem to be able to do anything about it.

Now, the militants have broken into a prison and have let 100's of militants, not just 10 or 20, but hundreds of them including members of AQ, to escape.

Feel sorry for the average Iraqi, who have to try and get through a day without being blown up!

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...bu-ghraib-jail

soopaman2 · 07-22-13, 11:53 AM

I feel worse for my family having to bury someone, because of this.

Not assigning blame, nor starting a crapstorm, but wiring up 105. shells to blow up water convoys is pretty crappy.

Considering our rules of engagement is so outside typical warfare in this engagement.

eddie · 07-22-13, 11:55 AM

This is in Iraq, not Afghanistan.

soopaman2 · 07-22-13, 12:00 PM

Thanks for your info, but I attended the funeral.

So uhh, yeah.

He may have been someone I grew up with.

But thanks!

eddie · 07-22-13, 12:22 PM

Sounds like you are talking about someone who is a working as a contracter over there, I thought you were talking about combat troops.

My mistake

soopaman2 · 07-22-13, 12:29 PM

Uhh no.

Marines never ever served in Iraq?

What are you getting at, or are you trying to troll me?

eddie · 07-22-13, 12:35 PM

I"m not talking about what happened during the Iraq wars, I'm talking about today. Last time I checked there are NO US Marines or combat troops in Iraq today, unless they are stationed at the embassy.

soopaman2 · 07-22-13, 12:55 PM

I get it! Sorry Eddie.

Better late than never.

I see the Iraqui officials in the same vein as the mexican Military and police, most of whom either bribed by, or intimidated by the cartels.

Sure they have beaming smiles, but they are all self serving sharks, looking for a piece of the free American money pie.

At least the drug lords always kill the enemy, the middlle easterners try to milk money from them while killing them.

I have feelings in this statement, but I see nothing validating about Iraq, the people who let it get the way it is, or the government who perpetuated it, and used us, at the cost of credibility and lives.

We shoulda left them with Saddam.

They deserve him and his sons, IMHO

Wolferz · 07-23-13, 04:45 AM

Nobody mentioned the second prison attack that occurred at the same time they were hitting Abu Ghraib. No prisoners escaped from that one.

Herr-Berbunch · 07-23-13, 06:48 AM

I thought this'd happened before but I was wrong - at least about it being Iraq. In Afghanistan 1000 escaped in 2008 and nearly 500 in 2011.

I get where you're coming from eddie - day to day life for the average Jamail Bloggs must be harsh and scary.

Jimbuna · 07-23-13, 11:05 AM

It is being suggested the prison guards aided the escape bid.

eddie · 07-23-13, 01:53 PM

Could you imagine this type of thing happening in the UK Jim? Bombs going off in British cities, rescue personnel show up, take the wounded to hospitals, bury the dead, they hose down the street to get rid of the blood, a few policemen show up, then its back to business as usual. Meanwhile, guards at Britains largest prison, help the inmates escape! And nobody does anything about it.

Then a few days later, it happens all over again. Such is life in Iraq.

Jimbuna · 07-23-13, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

Could you imagine this type of thing happening in the UK Jim? Bombs going off in British cities, rescue personnel show up, take the wounded to hospitals, bury the dead, they hose down the street to get rid of the blood, a few policemen show up, then its back to business as usual. Meanwhile, guards at Britains largest prison, help the inmates escape! And nobody does anything about it.

Then a few days later, it happens all over again. Such is life in Iraq.

Most definitely not and if I did that would probably lead to some serious consideration of what country to move to.

07-22-13, 11:44 AM	#1
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Massive prison break in Iraq Nothing but bad news coming out of Iraq lately (don't want to turn this into a political rant over Iraq war either-start a different thread if you want to go there) Bombing after bombing has been going on, over 3,000 killed this year so far. I keep thinking of just how incompetant the Iraqi police and military are in stopping this. Imagine this going on in a country in the West, most would respond with a massive influx of security forces, but Iraq doesn't seem to be able to do anything about it. Now, the militants have broken into a prison and have let 100's of militants, not just 10 or 20, but hundreds of them including members of AQ, to escape. Feel sorry for the average Iraqi, who have to try and get through a day without being blown up! http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...bu-ghraib-jail

07-22-13, 11:53 AM	#2
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	I feel worse for my family having to bury someone, because of this. Not assigning blame, nor starting a crapstorm, but wiring up 105. shells to blow up water convoys is pretty crappy. Considering our rules of engagement is so outside typical warfare in this engagement. __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

07-22-13, 12:00 PM	#4
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Thanks for your info, but I attended the funeral. So uhh, yeah. He may have been someone I grew up with. But thanks! __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

07-22-13, 12:29 PM	#6
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Uhh no. Marines never ever served in Iraq? What are you getting at, or are you trying to troll me? __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

07-22-13, 12:55 PM	#8
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	I get it! Sorry Eddie. Better late than never. I see the Iraqui officials in the same vein as the mexican Military and police, most of whom either bribed by, or intimidated by the cartels. Sure they have beaming smiles, but they are all self serving sharks, looking for a piece of the free American money pie. At least the drug lords always kill the enemy, the middlle easterners try to milk money from them while killing them. I have feelings in this statement, but I see nothing validating about Iraq, the people who let it get the way it is, or the government who perpetuated it, and used us, at the cost of credibility and lives. We shoulda left them with Saddam. They deserve him and his sons, IMHO __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

07-22-13, 11:55 AM	#3
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	This is in Iraq, not Afghanistan.

07-22-13, 12:22 PM	#5
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Sounds like you are talking about someone who is a working as a contracter over there, I thought you were talking about combat troops. My mistake

07-22-13, 12:35 PM	#7
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	I"m not talking about what happened during the Iraq wars, I'm talking about today. Last time I checked there are NO US Marines or combat troops in Iraq today, unless they are stationed at the embassy.

07-23-13, 04:45 AM	#9
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Nobody mentioned the second prison attack that occurred at the same time they were hitting Abu Ghraib. No prisoners escaped from that one. __________________ Tomorrow never comes

07-23-13, 06:48 AM	#10
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	I thought this'd happened before but I was wrong - at least about it being Iraq. In Afghanistan 1000 escaped in 2008 and nearly 500 in 2011. I get where you're coming from eddie - day to day life for the average Jamail Bloggs must be harsh and scary. __________________

07-23-13, 11:05 AM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,876 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	It is being suggested the prison guards aided the escape bid. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-23-13, 01:53 PM	#12
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Could you imagine this type of thing happening in the UK Jim? Bombs going off in British cities, rescue personnel show up, take the wounded to hospitals, bury the dead, they hose down the street to get rid of the blood, a few policemen show up, then its back to business as usual. Meanwhile, guards at Britains largest prison, help the inmates escape! And nobody does anything about it. Then a few days later, it happens all over again. Such is life in Iraq.