Just when thought he could not stoop any lower...

Bubblehead1980 · 07-19-13, 02:20 PM

Barack Obama comes out and continues to speak on the Martin case, further revealing his thinly veiled racism and victim mentality.Almost in a whiny tone, Obama talked about how "almost no african american man" has been on an elevator and a white woman has not grasped her purse tighter" and that "if Trayvon had been a white boy, the verdict would be different" Are you kidding me? This victim mentality has got to go, it's what is holding back black people in this country, if anything even is.

garren · 07-19-13, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Barack Obama comes out and continues to speak on the Martin case, further revealing his thinly veiled racism and victim mentality.Almost in a whiny tone, Obama talked about how "almost no african american man" has been on an elevator and a white woman has not grasped her purse tighter" and that "if Trayvon had been a white boy, the verdict would be different" Are you kidding me? This victim mentality has got to go, it's what is holding back black people in this country, if anything even is.

I agree. And I'm black. Obama is harping on the race thing. I just pulled it on Steve to see if I could get some sympathy from him but I don't think it worked. He's got a heart of stone that one.

Wolferz · 07-19-13, 02:29 PM

Sorry Bubblehead. Without link, your post is just second hand gossip.

I've been slammed more than once for putting forth conjecture without a reliable source to back up my opinion.

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Sailor Steve · 07-19-13, 02:30 PM

In this case I tend to agree as well. I haven't read the whole speech, but if it's been quoted accurately then my response to "If it had been a white boy, the verdict would have been different" would be "Tell that to O.J."

If it hasn't been quoted accurately then there may be trouble ahead.

Sailor Steve · 07-19-13, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by garren

I just pulled it on Steve to see if I could get some sympathy from him but I don't think it worked. He's got a heart of stone that one.

You seem to want to get more and more personal. It's not appreciated.

AVGWarhawk · 07-19-13, 02:50 PM

Read the entire 17 minute speech. It is not quite what you think. Each news outfit cherry picked to fit their agenda!

The speech was fine IMO. Racism still exists. It is the big elephant in the room people try to ignore. Has it gotten better as BO states? Absolutely. Has this case presented other ongoing issues in society as BO states. Yes. Does the SYG law need to be examined as BO suggest. Yes.

As you stated Steve, the quoting is not accurate.

Bubblehead1980 · 07-19-13, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

Sorry Bubblehead. Without link, your post is just second hand gossip.

I've been slammed more than once for putting forth conjecture without a reliable source to back up my opinion.

This public service announcement was brought to you by the letter L.

no, turn on the freaking news, it's every where.

AVGWarhawk · 07-19-13, 02:57 PM

It would be more extraordinary if BO would address the IRS scandal!!!! Nary a 17 second speech let alone a 17 minute speech!

Bubblehead1980 · 07-19-13, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Read the entire 17 minute speech. It is not quite what you think. Each news outfit cherry picked to fit their agenda!

The speech was fine IMO. Racism still exists. It is the big elephant in the room people try to ignore. Has it gotten better as BO states? Absolutely. Has this case presented other ongoing issues in society as BO states. Yes. Does the SYG law need to be examined as BO suggest. Yes.

As you stated Steve, the quoting is not accurate.

Okay, the speech was not fine .Racism will always exist.However, widespread institutional racism towards blacks is gone, actually its tilted towards whites now, it's called affirmative action.

Anyways, racism is not a factor in every single incident between people of different colors, its racist to assume that it is.Racism is an excuse used to try and mitigate things.They don't want to admit(despite evidence) that Martin was a punk kid who picked a fight with the wrong person.Tragic? Yes but it's what happens when one acts stupidly.There is no racism here.Zimmerman tutored black children, had plenty of black friends, is a freaking Democrat who voted for obama.Racism? profling? NO. Bottom line, obama and many in the community share a racist, victim mentality and even when they know they are wrong , they use it as a cop out.

Obama showed his thinly veiled racism yet again, all he did was stir the fire, but that is what he wants, he is a lefty, lefties like dividing people up, its how they get power because if everyone was united and thinking clearly, not susceptible to emotional things like racism etc, theyd never win elections, they sure as hell dont win on rationality.

soopaman2 · 07-19-13, 03:02 PM

Why would any president want to undermine their main cash cow?

After all, you can only steal so much from Social Security to give to tank and plane manufacturers, or Egypt, or Syrian Rebels.

Technically the IRS was meant to be temporary, but with any loss of rights, it is never temporary, right Patriot act?

IRS screws the little guy, yet ignores huge corps and anyone Holder likes. how much tax did GE pay? Oh they got a refund!

All those billions, they musta needed the help!

Who is gonna investigate Holder on Fast and Furious? He likes investigating right? Lets investigate.

Inspector gadget over here, only gadget he can play with is Pappa Obamas

(NSA took note of above post, all letters to soop can be directed to Guantanimo Bay)

Bubblehead1980 · 07-19-13, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

In this case I tend to agree as well. I haven't read the whole speech, but if it's been quoted accurately then my response to "If it had been a white boy, the verdict would have been different" would be "Tell that to O.J."

If it hasn't been quoted accurately then there may be trouble ahead.

It's accurate, just watch the news, its all over.

AVGWarhawk · 07-19-13, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

It's accurate, just watch the news, its all over.

I believe he said it "might" have been a different outcome.

BO:

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Folks understand the challenges that exist for African-American boys. But they get frustrated, I think, if they feel that there's no context for it and that context is being denied. And that all contributes, I think, to a sense that if a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario, that from top to bottom, both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different.

AVGWarhawk · 07-19-13, 03:10 PM

The true failing here is BO. The once great uniter is in reality a great divider! What has BO done to advance racial relations?

Bubblehead1980 · 07-19-13, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by garren

I agree. And I'm black. Obama is harping on the race thing. I just pulled it on Steve to see if I could get some sympathy from him but I don't think it worked. He's got a heart of stone that one.

Okay, perhaps it's personal but it's a question I always ask, some black friends of mine have been very candid. This is why can't paint everyone with the same brush, even if there is a majority in any group, etc.

Obviously, you do not have a victim mentality.May I ask, how did this come about? Were you parents the type that taught you better or did you reach this on your own, seeing how absurd and ridiculous it is ?

I think about school every time I discuss this case as we had some intense discussions last year when this case first broke. Most black students had victim mentality, but a few were objective and fair enough to say "sounds like self defense to me". I am sure when classes resume in the fall there will be plenty of discussion.

I look at it through my way of growing as well. I was raised in church, to believe in god etc all that. Not hardcore christians or anything but typical while southern suburban people. I, on my own grew away from it and am an atheist.No major event or anything, just saw it all as a load of crap.Meeting other atheists, that is the path most take, but some were fortunate their parents didnt push religion on them from a young age.This make me curious when I meet someone from the AA community who does not buy into the racist crap.

garren · 07-19-13, 03:16 PM

I just want to know why Obama murdered 3 Americans overseas without a proper trial via drone attack? He killed a 16 year old American citizen without giving him a fair trial (due process is part of the Constitution is it not?) and he's judging Zimmerman for killing a 17 year old who actually physically attacked him? Didn't Obama racially profile that Muslim kid just the same? Pot calling the kettle black. Obama's killed many more people than Zimmerman and people praise Obama if they voted for him. He's got more blood on his hands than most. Takes his pants off one leg at a time just like anyone else. I don't believe that the defense of the US calls for premeditated murder of 16 year olds.

07-19-13, 02:20 PM	#1
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,128 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	Just when thought he could not stoop any lower... Barack Obama comes out and continues to speak on the Martin case, further revealing his thinly veiled racism and victim mentality.Almost in a whiny tone, Obama talked about how "almost no african american man" has been on an elevator and a white woman has not grasped her purse tighter" and that "if Trayvon had been a white boy, the verdict would be different" Are you kidding me? This victim mentality has got to go, it's what is holding back black people in this country, if anything even is.

07-19-13, 02:29 PM	#3
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Sorry Bubblehead. Without link, your post is just second hand gossip. I've been slammed more than once for putting forth conjecture without a reliable source to back up my opinion. This public service announcement was brought to you by the letter L. __________________ Tomorrow never comes

07-19-13, 02:30 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	In this case I tend to agree as well. I haven't read the whole speech, but if it's been quoted accurately then my response to "If it had been a white boy, the verdict would have been different" would be "Tell that to O.J." If it hasn't been quoted accurately then there may be trouble ahead. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-19-13, 02:50 PM	#6
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,286 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Read the entire 17 minute speech. It is not quite what you think. Each news outfit cherry picked to fit their agenda! The speech was fine IMO. Racism still exists. It is the big elephant in the room people try to ignore. Has it gotten better as BO states? Absolutely. Has this case presented other ongoing issues in society as BO states. Yes. Does the SYG law need to be examined as BO suggest. Yes. As you stated Steve, the quoting is not accurate. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

07-19-13, 02:57 PM	#8
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,286 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	It would be more extraordinary if BO would address the IRS scandal!!!! Nary a 17 second speech let alone a 17 minute speech! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

07-19-13, 03:02 PM	#10
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Why would any president want to undermine their main cash cow? After all, you can only steal so much from Social Security to give to tank and plane manufacturers, or Egypt, or Syrian Rebels. Technically the IRS was meant to be temporary, but with any loss of rights, it is never temporary, right Patriot act? IRS screws the little guy, yet ignores huge corps and anyone Holder likes. how much tax did GE pay? Oh they got a refund! All those billions, they musta needed the help! Who is gonna investigate Holder on Fast and Furious? He likes investigating right? Lets investigate. Inspector gadget over here, only gadget he can play with is Pappa Obamas (NSA took note of above post, all letters to soop can be directed to Guantanimo Bay) __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

07-19-13, 03:10 PM	#13
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,286 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	The true failing here is BO. The once great uniter is in reality a great divider! What has BO done to advance racial relations? __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

07-19-13, 03:16 PM	#15
garren In the Brig Join Date: May 2011 Location: Half-way to Hell Posts: 366 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	I just want to know why Obama murdered 3 Americans overseas without a proper trial via drone attack? He killed a 16 year old American citizen without giving him a fair trial (due process is part of the Constitution is it not?) and he's judging Zimmerman for killing a 17 year old who actually physically attacked him? Didn't Obama racially profile that Muslim kid just the same? Pot calling the kettle black. Obama's killed many more people than Zimmerman and people praise Obama if they voted for him. He's got more blood on his hands than most. Takes his pants off one leg at a time just like anyone else. I don't believe that the defense of the US calls for premeditated murder of 16 year olds.