Unlucky Or Annnoying?

jreid666 · 07-01-13, 03:10 PM

Fellow Kaleun's

I have a question for any (probably) all of you. See Pictures below.

Now that is HMS Nelson, i came across her on my way home from a fairly profitable patrol and with only 3 eels left. As you can see i loosed them all at her and "scored" hits only for them to fail to detonate.

It has happened to me in the past and i would not be surprised if everyone has suffered similar occurances. I am just interested to hear about other peoples experiences and whether they felt unlucky or annoyed.

James

desertstriker · 07-01-13, 03:28 PM

at what angle would the impact be? if it is the angle of the picture deflections are a common thing.

HW3 · 07-01-13, 04:12 PM

At that angle the only chance for a detonation is by using the magnetic pistol. Impact pistols usually only work between 60-120 degree angle.

BigWalleye · 07-01-13, 08:44 PM

Neither unlucky nor annoying. Expected result under the conditions, especially if you are early war, when the torpedoes were execrable.

Or possibly lucky: If just one had detonated, done minimal or no damage, and alerted the RN to your presence, THAT would have been unlucky!

desertstriker · 07-01-13, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigWalleye

Neither unlucky nor annoying. Expected result under the conditions, especially if you are early war, when the torpedoes were execrable.

Or possibly lucky: If just one had detonated, done minimal or no damage, and alerted the RN to your presence, THAT would have been unlucky!

the glass is half full

but in all seriousness good point

jreid666 · 07-03-13, 04:27 AM

They were all magnetic detonators. Was actually a bit of a snap shot as i was being harrassed by a destroyer in the area.

Hinrich Schwab · 07-03-13, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jreid666

They were all magnetic detonators. Was actually a bit of a snap shot as i was being harrassed by a destroyer in the area.

Early in the war, the torpedoes were unreliable, especially the magnetic pistols. Impact pistols were just as bad at shallow AOBs. The magnetic pistols do not get reliable until mid-war. Impact pistols are only acceptably reliable with an AOB of 90 +/- 10 degrees. Your AOB looks about 40 degrees port, if I am reading the pic right. Dud City. Even if they hit, 3 eels may not be enough anyway, depending on your mods.

HW3 · 07-03-13, 12:47 PM

I should have added that they would have had to be keel shots.

I usually set my keel shots .5M deeper than the keel depth of the ship.

flag4 · 07-03-13, 03:56 PM

unlucky and annoying!

I would have been furious

...but at least you survived

BrucePartington · 07-03-13, 07:14 PM

I am no experienced SH3 Kaleun, but in your situation, I wouldn't even bother. 3 torpedoes aren't enough for the target in question, and that would only result in an unavoidable very long (or short) cat and mouse game.
Personally, I think you were very lucky.

When I get down to 3 or less torpedoes I just go home.
Naturally, if a lone merchant crosses my path (or sails near), I graciously accept the offering.

BigWalleye · 07-03-13, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BrucePartington

I am no experienced SH3 Kaleun, but in your situation, I wouldn't even bother. 3 torpedoes aren't enough for the target in question, and that would only result in an unavoidable very long (or short) cat and mouse game.
Personally, I think you were very lucky.

When I get down to 3 or less torpedoes I just go home.
Naturally, if a lone merchant crosses my path (or sails near), I graciously accept the offering.

Playing GWX (100%), in November 1939 my VIIB picked up a convoy inbound the Bristol Channel being escorted by HMS Nelson et al. With a pair of DDs headed my way, I freaked and fired a full spread at 2 degrees. One missed, three hit Nelson and took her out. Medals all around and drank free at the cabaret! Gluck!

BTW, when playing NYGM, a VIIB in 1939 only gets 4 forward and 1 aft - no reloads. RTB with 3 forward doesn't seem like a viable option in that case.

YMMV.

07-01-13, 03:10 PM	#1
jreid666 Helmsman Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: fraserburgh Posts: 104 Downloads: 296 Uploads: 0	Unlucky Or Annnoying? Fellow Kaleun's I have a question for any (probably) all of you. See Pictures below. Now that is HMS Nelson, i came across her on my way home from a fairly profitable patrol and with only 3 eels left. As you can see i loosed them all at her and "scored" hits only for them to fail to detonate. It has happened to me in the past and i would not be surprised if everyone has suffered similar occurances. I am just interested to hear about other peoples experiences and whether they felt unlucky or annoyed. James

07-01-13, 04:12 PM	#3
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	At that angle the only chance for a detonation is by using the magnetic pistol. Impact pistols usually only work between 60-120 degree angle. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

07-03-13, 12:47 PM	#8
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	I should have added that they would have had to be keel shots. I usually set my keel shots .5M deeper than the keel depth of the ship. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

07-03-13, 03:56 PM	#9
flag4 Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Location: as far away as possible Posts: 1,625 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 0	unlucky and annoying! I would have been furious...but at least you survived __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] ' We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different.' Kurt Vonnegut

07-01-13, 03:28 PM	#2
desertstriker Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2012 Location: mod soup bar and grill Posts: 1,756 Downloads: 998 Uploads: 0	at what angle would the impact be? if it is the angle of the picture deflections are a common thing.

07-01-13, 08:44 PM	#4
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	Neither unlucky nor annoying. Expected result under the conditions, especially if you are early war, when the torpedoes were execrable. Or possibly lucky: If just one had detonated, done minimal or no damage, and alerted the RN to your presence, THAT would have been unlucky!

07-03-13, 04:27 AM	#6
jreid666 Helmsman Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: fraserburgh Posts: 104 Downloads: 296 Uploads: 0	They were all magnetic detonators. Was actually a bit of a snap shot as i was being harrassed by a destroyer in the area.

07-03-13, 07:14 PM	#10
BrucePartington XO Join Date: May 2013 Location: KM AM99 Posts: 405 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	I am no experienced SH3 Kaleun, but in your situation, I wouldn't even bother. 3 torpedoes aren't enough for the target in question, and that would only result in an unavoidable very long (or short) cat and mouse game. Personally, I think you were very lucky. When I get down to 3 or less torpedoes I just go home. Naturally, if a lone merchant crosses my path (or sails near), I graciously accept the offering.