idiot politicians should make selling ammo online illegal

here is a great idea for those idiot politicians that think they need to make new laws every time a criminal breaks a law.

make the selling of ammo online illegal, only in person sales would be allowed to individuals by an official retailer or retail outlet just like they do for cigarettes and alcohol where ID for proof of age is required.

all those scammers out there hoarding ammo and reselling it at 3 and 4 times face value can go back to selling crack or whatever they did before they started scalping ammo.

EDIT - ok correction, I will amend this to say limit ammo sales to retail outlets only so a business can sell it at stores locally or online but not individuals

[Ducimus]

Were you just at gunbroker.com or similar website?

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Were you just at gunbroker.com or similar website?

I just was...

[Stealhead]

If you stock up on common ammo in general you will not be effected by price spikes.Just a thought.

[TLAM Strike]

Sooooo basically regulate the internet?

yea...

...excuse me...

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Sooooo basically regulate the internet?

yea...

...excuse me...

I was originally going to post something along that line but I decided against it.

[Stealhead]

In the US ammunition is a free market item and the federal government has no say in how much it should or should not cost.

Anyone can price gouge as well a person in a brick and mortar store can do it just as easily as an online seller can.

Everyone goes to cheaperthandirt anyway so they are one of most likely places to price gouge.Just because a site has a certain name does not mean that the implication of the name is true.

As I said before the only way to not get effected by the market is to regularly stockpile your ammo or load/reload on your own.

[Ducimus]

But... but.. If I stockpile ammo, I'll look like one of those crazy doomsday prepper people!


Honestly, I think most everyone in my state who owns a house is sitting on their own personal cache in their basement. Truth of the matter is, right now, you can't even get supplies for reloading - least of all in 9MM. I can't get ammo for my handgun, outside of what we have in an ammo can labeled "9MM", but I can still buy brazilian made M80 ball ammo locally. Go figure.

[raymond6751]

With all that ammo stored all over the place, I guess the second most dangerous job (after cops) must be fire fighter.

Snap, Crackle, Pop

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by raymond6751

With all that ammo stored all over the place, I guess the second most dangerous job (after cops) must be fire fighter.

Snap, Crackle, Pop

Actually, not really.


In short, no pressure buildup, little to no velocity. Many high powered rounds won't even penetrate sheetrock.

its a very simple concept to grasp, there wouldn't be any ammo shortage if individuals couldn't sell ammo on the internet. retailers with FFL licenses could still sell it just not individuals.

its really as simple as that, you stop the thousands of people who don't even own guns from buying up all the ammo in sight then reselling to the highest bidder. a good portion of these people are the store employees who know they can make a lot of money reselling it out of their house after buying up the stores stock instead of putting it on the shelf.

take away the ability for them to profit from reselling the ammo and suddenly they have no reason to buy it all up and you will see the shelves at the store restock.

there is no reason anyone can support unrestricted ammo sales by individuals online unless they too are trying to make money reselling ammo.

right now to buy a gun, cigaretts, or alcohol, you need to show ID so you have to buy it or pick it up in person from a retail outfit so do the same with ammo is all im saying. if they cant resell it they wont buy it before a legitimate gun owner looking for ammo can go looking for it

if the 18 year old kid down the street with no job can go to walmart, cabelas, bass pro, academy, gander mountain, etc. every morning and buy up the ammo to resell then he is cheating legit ammo buyers as well as tax evasion because you know damn well he aint reporting hes making $300-$400 a week or more flipping ammo on ebay or gunbroker

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Webster

its a very simple concept to grasp, there wouldn't be any ammo shortage if individuals couldn't sell ammo on the internet. retailers with FFL licenses could still sell it just not individuals.

its really as simple as that, you stop the thousands of people who don't even own guns from buying up all the ammo in sight then reselling to the highest bidder. a good portion of these people are the store employees who know they can make a lot of money reselling it out of their house after buying up the stores stock instead of putting it on the shelf.

take away the ability for them to profit from reselling the ammo and suddenly they have no reason to buy it all up and you will see the shelves at the store restock.

there is no reason anyone can support unrestricted ammo sales by individuals online unless they too are trying to make money reselling ammo.

right now to buy a gun, cigaretts, or alcohol, you need to show ID so you have to buy it or pick it up in person from a retail outfit so do the same with ammo is all im saying. if they cant resell it they wont buy it before a legitimate gun owner looking for ammo can go looking for it

if the 18 year old kid down the street with no job can go to walmart, cabelas, bass pro, academy, gander mountain, etc. every morning and buy up the ammo to resell then he is cheating legit ammo buyers as well as tax evasion because you know damn well he aint reporting hes making $300-$400 a week or more flipping ammo on ebay or gunbroker

I think you are really stretching things to think that there are thousands of 18 year old kids running around buying ammo everyday and then re-selling it.

You have short term memory because there where ammo shortages long before the internet was commonly used to sell items.

As I have said before companies that produce ammunition for public use are in it to make a profit.It is actually to their benefit for ammo to be in high demand because they can then sell at a higher price to the retailer.

When a factory over produces that is a loose in profit.The problem is not a certain group of people buying and reselling it is the fact that many calibers are very common and when gun sales spike for what ever reason that of course means that the most popular guns are going to sell and in turn the most popular ammo types.

It really is simple supply and demand in a very large market effected by several factors and the people you have a beef with a but a drop in that bucket compared to several other factors.

@Ducimus The shops I buy from know me as a hunter and shooter not a nutcase prepper though they do take money from those types.

ok maybe asking for in person sales only is going too far but cant any of you can see the huge difference in online auctions selling overpriced ammo to the highest bidder and the legitimate online DEALERS out there?

stopping INDIVIDUALS from holding auctions selling to the highest bidder will not effect in any way the way you buy ammo online right now except to shut down the scalpers market and make ammo cheaper and more available to everyone.

time and time again when the supply chain is looked at the factories are producing the ammo and it is being shipped out but it isn't reaching the store shelves its going to online auctions instead. its a combination of store employees themselves or with friends who are taking advantage of the system to buy up ammo before legitimate customers can get to it.

and there is a large group of the unemployed who make a living by going to the retail outlets every morning buying up all the ammo because its more then just a coincidence that every auction site lists ammo in lots of the buy limits at local stores.


im just thinking if there is some way to stop these idiots willing to pay such high prices from creating a scalpers market that hurts everyone.

its wrong I know but what can you do? we cant send these idiots to their room for a time out until they learn not to buy overpriced ammo lol

[August]

I see the difference but I think the best place to buy my ammo is at my local gun shop.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by August

I see the difference but I think the best place to buy my ammo is at my local gun shop.

Personally, I have never purchased ammo online. In my area, with the exception of select reloading components; it's just cheaper to buy local, then pay shipping and handling.