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[Red October1984]

I need to get a copy of FMJ. I saw it once on IFC and it was really good IMHO. You can get it on DVD for like 4$ here. Born on the Fourth of July is on my list too. Of course, I will have to see Apocalypse Now also.....

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

I need to get a copy of FMJ. I saw it once on IFC and it was really good IMHO. You can get it on DVD for like 4$ here. Born on the Fourth of July is on my list too. Of course, I will have to see Apocalypse Now also.....

You might as well upgrade to blu ray for the extra three or four dollars per disc you get a substantial improvement in video and sound quality.My laptop has a Bluray drive (it came as a free upgrade) I was stunned how much better the quality is with Bluray even on a non HD LCD.Of course on an HD TV or an HD monitor it just blows your mind.

Of course for me Bluray is not very expensive because my movie library is fairly small.I only own movies that I really like.Of course I will only watch a film I really like once every few years.

"Apocalypse Now" is probably my favorite movie and I only viewed it about 5 times in my life time.Another favorite "Seven Samurai" I have viewed even less. I am actually glad that this thread appeared because it made me realize that I have not watched "Apocalypse Now" in some time and that I do not own a bluray copy so I went an ordered a copy from Amazon.I look forward to getting that package because this one is displayed in the original theater ratio.I did get to see Redux when it came out in 2000 in a German Kino which was nice because they serve beer in German movie theaters.I can say without doubt that it was the best film I have ever seen in a proper movie theater and most likely will never be topped.

They just don't make films like that anymore.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

You might as well upgrade to blu ray for the extra three or four dollars per disc you get a substantial improvement in video and sound quality.My laptop has a Bluray drive (it came as a free upgrade) I was stunned how much better the quality is with Bluray even on a non HD LCD.Of course on an HD TV or an HD monitor it just blows your mind.

I've seen Blu-Ray Movies on one of the most high quality TV's before. They are pretty dang nice. I'll give them that...but I just prefer DVD's. I was thinking just the other day if it would be possible for me to upgrade my laptop's disc drive to a Blu-Ray speed drive. I only have one Blu-Ray movie. I got a Blu-Ray/DVD Combo pack of Robin Hood with Russel Crowe. I got it last summer from my Grandma and I haven't even watched it since.... Blu-Ray would probably be good for me since I'm a big movie person.

I'll think about it.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

I've seen Blu-Ray Movies on one of the most high quality TV's before. They are pretty dang nice. I'll give them that...but I just prefer DVD's. I was thinking just the other day if it would be possible for me to upgrade my laptop's disc drive to a Blu-Ray speed drive. I only have one Blu-Ray movie. I got a Blu-Ray/DVD Combo pack of Robin Hood with Russel Crowe. I got it last summer from my Grandma and I haven't even watched it since.... Blu-Ray would probably be good for me since I'm a big movie person.

I'll think about it.

Well Bluray also allows for a much higher quality transfer even for a long film to be on one disc vs two DVD discs.

If you really like movies Bluray is the way to go.Of course to get the most benefit you really need an HDTV that can handle 1080p or HD capable monitor and a good sound system.

For an HDTV you also must use HDMI connectors which can be expensive.

What you may not realize with DVD titles is that they lower the quality of the transfer in order to jam all those extra features onto the disc if you buy a DVD try to by a "super bit" DVD they will have the maximum possible quality transfer for a DVD.If you cant find super bit DVDs try to buy titles where it is clear that any extras are on a separate DVD for example titles in the Criterion Collection are sold this way.

If you can get "Apocalypse Now: The Complete Dossier" DVD that set has a high quality transfer.It is spread out over two discs and there are some extra features but they designed them oso that they fit on the disc without lowering the actual films transfer quality.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

If you can get "Apocalypse Now: The Complete Dossier" DVD that set has a high quality transfer.It is spread out over two discs and there are some extra features but they designed them oso that they fit on the disc without lowering the actual films transfer quality.

I'll look for that at Hastings next time I go. The quality of the movie doesn't matter to me as much as the actual movie. If I can clearly see what is happening, it's good enough for me. Anything above VHS quality is good. I can hardly stand to watch a VHS movie now. I grew up on those things....and then I turned 11.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

I'll look for that at Hastings next time I go. The quality of the movie doesn't matter to me as much as the actual movie. If I can clearly see what is happening, it's good enough for me. Anything above VHS quality is good. I can hardly stand to watch a VHS movie now. I grew up on those things....and then I turned 11.

The box looks like a small metal clasp closed manila folder.I recommend watching the original 1979 version first and then watching the Redux version.

Some people feel that the original is better at building up suspense knowing that the final confrontation is going to be very climatic and that the extra scenes in Redux are too much of a lull.I think Redux and its extra scenes add to the suspense myself and they add a little depth to the relationship of the different characters.

That is just my opinion though and I have not viewed the original 1979 version of Apocalypse Now in some time.I will have to view both versions when I get my Bluray copy in the mail.Hopefully it will come in by Friday so I can sit down and watch them back to back Friday and Saturday.Perhaps I can convince my wife and daughter to go shopping or something Saturday that way it will be just the dogs the cats and me lounging around watching Apocalypse Now...sounds like a plan

Anyway when you get a hold of a copy let us know what your favorite scene is.I would list my favorite scene but I dont want to a have a positive or negative influence on you.I always find that hearing about a scene from someone kind of ruins the effect it has on me because I already have a preconceived notion.I will tell you that it is not the part where the Air Cav raids the village.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Anyway when you get a hold of a copy let us know what your favorite scene is.I would list my favorite scene but I dont want to a have a positive or negative influence on you.I always find that hearing about a scene from someone kind of ruins the effect it has on me because I already have a preconceived notion.I will tell you that it is not the part where the Air Cav raids the village.

I'm already assuming that when the Air Cav comes in that they kill civilians. I could be wrong...but I'm just using the context clues here.

I'll be sure to list my favorite scene if I get a copy. I'm hoping to get FMJ and Apocalypse Now at Hastings. Hastings is great. Buy One Get One For A Dollar on all used movies. If they're both 5$, I'll pay 6$.

On an unrelated note, I have a movie to recommend for you.

It's a 1990's HBO movie. Called "When Trumpets Fade". It's about the Battle of Hurtgen Forest and the man who went from Private to Lieutenant in three days. It's a true story and I really liked it. It's a lower budget movie than some other HBO stuff but it's a good movie. If you haven't seen it, give it a watch.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

I'm already assuming that when the Air Cav comes in that they kill civilians. I could be wrong...but I'm just using the context clues here.

I'll be sure to list my favorite scene if I get a copy. I'm hoping to get FMJ and Apocalypse Now at Hastings. Hastings is great. Buy One Get One For A Dollar on all used movies. If they're both 5$, I'll pay 6$.

On an unrelated note, I have a movie to recommend for you.

It's a 1990's HBO movie. Called "When Trumpets Fade". It's about the Battle of Hurtgen Forest and the man who went from Private to Lieutenant in three days. It's a true story and I really liked it. It's a lower budget movie than some other HBO stuff but it's a good movie. If you haven't seen it, give it a watch.

I have seen "When Trumpets Fade" it was not bad the at the time some clever airman in my dorm had decided to share his cable with the everyone people would watch HBO and sports on one of those huge rear projection screen TVs that they had in the day room.

The scene in Apocalypse Now I will let you see it for yourself there was an important event that occurs before a civilian gets killed that I forgot about I'll just let you watch it and you can judge it for yourself.Come to think of it my memory does not serve me as to wither a combatant dressed as civilian that had clearly committed a military action is the only one killed alone or others near that person as well but not purposefully. There is another scene as well that I forgot about that displays an important element of Martin Sheen's character that I also forgot about.At any rate there is no blatant killing of a civilian I'll just leave it at that.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

I have seen "When Trumpets Fade" it was not bad the at the time some clever airman in my dorm had decided to share his cable with the everyone people would watch HBO and sports on one of those huge rear projection screen TVs that they had in the day room.

I got a copy of the movie for Christmas and I liked the movie. It isn't the greatest war movie i've ever seen but it was good.

The scene in Apocalypse Now I will let you see it for yourself there was an important event that occurs before a civilian gets killed that I forgot about I'll just let you watch it and you can judge it for yourself.Come to think of it my memory does not serve me as to wither a combatant dressed as civilian that had clearly committed a military action is the only one killed alone or others near that person as well but not purposefully. There is another scene as well that I forgot about that displays an important element of Martin Sheen's character that I also forgot about.At any rate there is no blatant killing of a civilian I'll just leave it at that.

Now, I've been reading a little about Apocalypse Now. The only thing I see here is getting this movie by my Mom. She tries to be protective and what not. There's apparently some nudity in this movie and she won't be a big fan of that. My Dad will probably let me see it though. He lets me watch tons of stuff. Heck, every once in a while we sit and watch Curb Your Enthusiasm, Trailer Park Boys, and all kinds of other stuff. (Both of those shows are hilarious. I especially like Curb Your Enthusiasm. )

If I can, I'll pick up Apocalypse Now. If not, well...I can always watch it with somebody else. It all depends on what my Mom thinks. You would think that she would loosen up a little bit but she doesn't like me watching that stuff and if she's against it I won't be seeing the movie.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

I got a copy of the movie for Christmas and I liked the movie. It isn't the greatest war movie i've ever seen but it was good.



Now, I've been reading a little about Apocalypse Now. The only thing I see here is getting this movie by my Mom. She tries to be protective and what not. There's apparently some nudity in this movie and she won't be a big fan of that. My Dad will probably let me see it though. He lets me watch tons of stuff. Heck, every once in a while we sit and watch Curb Your Enthusiasm, Trailer Park Boys, and all kinds of other stuff. (Both of those shows are hilarious. I especially like Curb Your Enthusiasm. )

If I can, I'll pick up Apocalypse Now. If not, well...I can always watch it with somebody else. It all depends on what my Mom thinks. You would think that she would loosen up a little bit but she doesn't like me watching that stuff and if she's against it I won't be seeing the movie.

I assume that you are 100 if you are able to purchase the games that you play so you should also be able to buy any R rated movie.It does not really have much nudity the longest bit is Martin Sheen's but in the beginning when he has a drunken fit in his hotel room and brief bit with some Playboy Playmates at a USO show.

I would be more concerned about the violence than the nudity but I am not your mother.She allows you to play Dead Island where you can cut zombies limbs off of but no naked ladies.

If she allowed you to watch "Full Metal Jacket" which has no nudity but does have a heaping helping of sexual references I would try reasoning with her that "Apocalypse Now" is no more violent than FMJ is and actually in the 1979 only very briefly shows a chick flash her top besides that its sexual content is much milder than FMJ is. Really this is the 21st century I have no doubt that you have seen a lot more than what "Apocalypse Now" contains.

If you are 100 you could also you could point out that the law considers you mature enough to see the kinds of things that an r rated movie might contain.

I can think of a lot of other things a teenage male in the United States could be doing with his spare time that are far worse than seeing 10 seconds of naked women in a movie.I dont know some mothers are funny about these things and others do not seem to care.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

I assume that you are 17 if you are able to purchase the games that you play so you should also be able to buy any R rated movie.It does not really have much nudity the longest bit is Martin Sheen's but in the beginning when he has a drunken fit in his hotel room and brief bit with some Playboy Playmates at a USO show.

Actually I'm not 17. (I have said before that I'm not too much older than Cybermat47) For one, you don't need to be 17 if you have a parent there when you buy the game. I've bought R movies before. Act of Valor, Prometheus, Crimson Tide, etc. No problem. They don't check me for ID at Hastings.

I would be more concerned about the violence than the nudity but I am not your mother.

She doesn't particularly like that either. She knows that I'm old enough to handle violence and language. I was also reading the parental info for Apocalypse Now on IMDB and they tend to overdo it in that department so...yeah. My Mom sat through FMJ with me and my Dad. She really did not like Pyle's Glory Moments there in the bathroom with the DI and what not. It's mainly my little brother that she tries to protect though. No matter what I do...he has to do the same. He always has to tag along with what I'm doing. When I was 9-10, (I don't exactly remember how old I was) I had to beg for months and months to be allowed to play the first Halo game. Apparently it was a bit bloody and violent but it didn't bother me. One day, I was finally allowed to play Halo and I felt awesome...but here comes my little brother of 6-7 and he's allowed to jump right in because I'm allowed to. I remember that made me mad. Things like that have caused him to be the way he is now. He's the youngest though. The youngest child is always spoiled.

Nowadays I'm up to stuff like Dead Island and Fallout. I'm not a serial killer or anything but I think that the bloodiness and the realistic violence just adds to the immersion. You don't feel like you could be there if the guy steps on a landmine, falls down instead of flying up in the air, and there's no blood or missing pieces. I think that the 2010 Medal Of Honor and Call of Duty World at War have done the best job in that department. It does not bother me but I can see how it can bother some people. I'm used to having my arms all the way inside of a dead deer every November after shooting the thing. (Last November, I had to gut it in the dark completely by feel....That was just exhilarating ) I hunt and I am not bothered by violence or blood. I sure as heck am not one to go starting fights. That's not something anybody should do.

Look at me getting on an out of control rant again.... I went from movies to video games to gutting deer in one post.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

Actually I'll be 101 in 6 months. (I just revealed my actual age...guess the cat's out of the bag. I have said before that I'm not too much older than Cybermat47) For one, you don't need to be 117 if you have a parent there when you buy the game. I've bought R movies before. Act of Valor, Prometheus, Crimson Tide, etc. No problem. They don't check me for ID at Hastings.



She doesn't particularly like that either. She knows that I'm old enough to handle violence and language. I was also reading the parental info for Apocalypse Now on IMDB and they tend to overdo it in that department so...yeah. My Mom sat through FMJ with me and my Dad. She really did not like Pyle's Glory Moments there in the bathroom with the DI and what not. It's mainly my little brother that she tries to protect though. No matter what I do...he has to do the same. He always has to tag along with what I'm doing. When I was 9-10, (I don't exactly remember how old I was) I had to beg for months and months to be allowed to play the first Halo game. Apparently it was a bit bloody and violent but it didn't bother me. One day, I was finally allowed to play Halo and I felt awesome...but here comes my little brother of 6-7 and he's allowed to jump right in because I'm allowed to. I remember that made me mad. Things like that have caused him to be the way he is now. He's the youngest though. The youngest child is always spoiled.

Nowadays I'm up to stuff like Dead Island and Fallout. I'm not a serial killer or anything but I think that the bloodiness and the realistic violence just adds to the immersion. You don't feel like you could be there if the guy steps on a landmine, falls down instead of flying up in the air, and there's no blood or missing pieces. I think that the 2010 Medal Of Honor and Call of Duty World at War have done the best job in that department. It does not bother me but I can see how it can bother some people. I'm used to having my arms all the way inside of a dead deer every November after shooting the thing. (Last November, I had to gut it in the dark completely by feel....That was just exhilarating ) I hunt and I am not bothered by violence or blood. I sure as heck am not one to go starting fights. That's not something anybody should do.

Look at me getting on an out of control rant again.... I went from movies to video games to gutting deer in one post.

Well you did not have to reveal your exact age you could have just said that you are not 100 and left it a mystery.

Not that it matters all too much on this site though anyone on the internet can see all of this always keep that in mind.

That is funny about the ID bit though people ID me all the damn time more for booze though and I am 36 Django for example they asked for ID when I went to see that.I don't expect people to gauge age perfectly but you should be able to tell when a person is a few years past 17.

I get mistaken for a plain clothes police officer a lot as well that saved me from a very bad situation on one occasion.

Its how I carry myself in public I am always aware of my surroundings and certain people notice this behavior because they prefer a soft target.I walked up to go into a gas station once and got distracted and did not notice a group of 4 or 5 Bloods standing right by the entrance I was already too close to them and was not about to turn my back on them so I just kept walking and mentally prepared myself for hand to hand combat the only weapon available me.

I cant help but wonder if more people where vigilant about surroundings and things out of place fewer bad things would happen in this day and age as the Boston Bombing proved you have to pay attention to things closely like bags being unattended.

As I walked up one of them started to raise his hand to grab me and I started to move my hand to counter his movement so I would be able to quickly gain control of him when one of them said "That's onetime"(slang for cop in some circles) and the other one put his hands down but kept eye contact with me.That was a good thing to because that would have been a brutal situation I was out numbered but they where about to confront a caged tiger I'd have taken a few down with me very brutally because it was clear by their body language that that had ill intent. I remember that day well because it was not long after I had gotten out of the military and my thought was "there is no way in hell I going to allow to some dirt bags to kill or harm me after making it through a freaking war zone.Of course I am not crazy I would have tired to get away from them not fight them all but sometimes options are limited as I said turning my back on them would only have resulted in getting jacked up from behind.

I am especially paranoid about turning my back on unknown people after one of my good friends told me that he had this dream where someone stabbed me in the kidney and I died.My friend figured that he had the dream for some reason so he told me about it.Ever since then I have probably offended a few people by looking over my shoulder when I heard them walking behind me but I don't really care.Being aware of your surroundings is an instinct we suppress that we should obey.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Well you did not have to reveal your exact age you could have just said that you are not 17 and left it a mystery.

Not that it matters all too much on this site though anyone on the internet can see all of this always keep that in mind.

Well you don't know my real name and where I live or what school I go to so it's not terribly revealing.

Unless you were a hacker....

I think I'll edit that post anyway though... (You could edit the quote if you want)

EDIT: I found the name of that really good Korean War movie I saw a while back from the SK's POV. Here's the wikipedia article. The Front Line (Battle of Highlands)

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

Well you don't know my real name and where I live or what school I go to so it's not terribly revealing.

Unless you were a hacker....

I think I'll edit that post anyway though... (You could edit the quote if you want)

Go ahead and change it then.I usually am general about certain information.I changed your quote you will have to change the original.

Hackers and fishers though they might comb many different sources for information.a good idea if you use Facebook and Twitter is to link that to an e-mail that is not your "official" e-mail.

I read in a Popular Mechanics an article about electronic surveillance/security I found it a bit unnerving to be honest and I am a bit aware of such things anyway.

They described how this kid in Pennsylvania was playing Xbox360 online.This kid must have some how angered an internet troll or in this case Xbox troll.That person managed to hack the other kids Xbox and figured out his real name and address .etc,The hacker then called the police and simulated that he was using a teletype system that a deaf person uses he made it appear that a violent situation was occurring and the cops of course sent SWAT to the Penn. kids house.Scary stuff i can that going poorly at a gun owners home because they of course would think that a home invasion was occurring.

The article was in the January issue of Popular Mechanics there is also a more extensive book with the same name.The two or three page article was very interesting to say the least.

Speaking of all these things makes me think of the book "1984" you should read that book there is also a film with the same name based on the book.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Speaking of all these things makes me think of the book "1984" you should read that book there is also a film with the same name based on the book.

Well...I can be paranoid about certain things sometimes. I've read too many spy novels. I've gone into a room and done the room-scan thing and I've been known to stand in a corner around people I don't know. I've done that in some St. Louis gas stations. Pick a corner in full view of a security camera and no windows behind you and you won't get attacked from behind. If you do get attacked, well, they have it clearly on camera. If it's somewhere local I'll probably have my knife on me but I don't want to have to use it. I mainly carry it as a tool but it's there if I need it. There are some shady people around here. I remember the Civil Air Patrol OPSEC presentation. All the "situational awareness" stuff I already knew...

Everybody is a little paranoid. Everybody is a little crazy. There's just certain things that sometimes you have to watch.