![]() |
SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997 |
![]() |
#1 | |
Subsim Aviator
|
![]() Quote:
What a terrible way to go. ![]()
__________________
![]() |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#2 |
Navy Seal
![]() Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Valhalla
Posts: 5,295
Downloads: 141
Uploads: 17
|
![]()
Terrible indeed. Link?
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#3 |
Subsim Aviator
|
![]()
__________________
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#4 |
Navy Seal
![]() Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Valhalla
Posts: 5,295
Downloads: 141
Uploads: 17
|
![]()
So, after looking at pics of this type of aircraft, the cockpit is enclosed. Educate a layman about how the canopy came off, and secondly, if the instructor wasn't wearing a seatbelt either, how come he wasn't ejected as well?
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#5 |
Subsim Aviator
|
![]()
Initial reports are always lacking. I think just one person failed to wear the safety belt. This is an upward opening plexiglass canopy, with enough weight of the individual and force, say from zero g maneuvering, an unbelted passenger could float into the plexiglass canopy forcing it open (or smashing. The glass out altogether) then there is only a lot of air molecules between him and the almighty.
Not sure how that happened to be honest, but 2 went up and 1 returned sans canopy I call shenanigans
__________________
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#6 | |
Wayfaring Stranger
|
![]() Quote:
__________________
![]() Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#7 |
Navy Seal
![]() Join Date: May 2007
Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth
Posts: 5,963
Downloads: 52
Uploads: 0
|
Micro-scrubbing the Gene pool
Nuff said.
![]()
__________________
![]() Tomorrow never comes |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#8 |
Kaiser Bill's batman
Join Date: May 2010
Location: AN72
Posts: 13,203
Downloads: 76
Uploads: 0
|
![]()
Oooh, a lot of questions in my head, never mind the FAA and NTSB.
And seeing the word student I was wondering about a Darwin nomination, but he was 77 so that's probably out of the question.
__________________
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#9 |
Subsim Aviator
|
![]()
here is another area the media often gets wrong
calling the man a student pilot, when in fact he may have already carried one or more licenses or ratings. in this case he was probably flying with an "instructor" to get familiarized with the aircraft type as pilots normally do here is a pic of the type ![]() based on the source of the image - this *may* be the accident aircraft ![]() my theory is that the "instructor" was hot-shottin' it a little bit to demonstrate the airplane without realizing his passenger was unbuckled and may have performed a zero g nose over without a safety belt fastened - everything that is not secured would have done just as in the above video mid maneuver the man just pulled a superman right out the top of the airplane considering some models of this aircraft are equipped a canopy opens INTO the slipstream you might find it hard to believe that someone could accidentally open it enough to fall out. (other models feature a canopy that opens from port to starboard being hinged on the co-pilot side.) but "Zero-G- nose overs" are performed on an arc first marked by a climb followed by a sudden push over and prolonged parabolic sort of decent. at the "top of climb" at the moment of nose over the aircraft would have been flying at a minimum controllable airspeed not much faster than a stall which for this aircraft is about 40 mph my second theory is the student was practicing a stall, went into a spin, and was ejected during the instructor's recovery
__________________
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#10 |
Navy Seal
![]() Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 9,404
Downloads: 105
Uploads: 1
|
![]()
That is one itty bitty plane. Sheeshk! Call me chicken, but I'd be really scared to get up in that thing. And if I did, you bet your butt I'd be locked, strapped, clenched and tied in to that thing.
__________________
They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#11 |
Wayfaring Stranger
|
![]()
Not me. I'd wear a parachute. If it comes time to terminate my relationship with the aircraft I don't want to fumble with belts and straps while the thing augers in.
__________________
![]() Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#12 | |
Navy Seal
![]() |
![]() Quote:
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N999NA.html I find it interesting that the FAA's website does not list the tail number N999NA as being use on an active aircraft. I don't know if that means the aircraft was never inspected for safety or what. You can search their DB here: http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...m_inquiry.aspx |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#13 |
Subsim Aviator
|
![]()
thats the previous owner, the one who died and who's estate sold the fall victim the airplane... that site info is not the most current apparently (probably takes a while to update... perhaps quarterly).
as for the FAA site not showing the tail number... i dunno, perhaps it might have something to do with it being listed as experimental - beats me. EDIT: the canopy in the picture... pilot side, the plexiglass looks jagged compared to the other half.
__________________
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#14 | |
Kaiser Bill's batman
Join Date: May 2010
Location: AN72
Posts: 13,203
Downloads: 76
Uploads: 0
|
![]() Quote:
It may be different for the static liners amongst you.
__________________
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#15 |
Chief of the Boat
|
![]()
Well whatever happened will be uncovered by the investigation hopefully but only the instructor will know the truth.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
|
|