Bugged torpedoes?

acofm89 · 03-18-13, 08:12 PM

Hello everyone. I seem to have a problem with my torpedoes. They always seems to pass behind whatever I want to shoot at. For the record I'm using auto-targeting and have TMO 2.5 installed. I've tried to offset the torpedo angle to campensate and I've tried to change the speed setting but nothing seems to work. Funny thing is it didn't seem to be like that from the beginning. On my first patrol I sunk a Japanese battleship from a distance of 3000 y no problem. Now I can't hit a merchant going 5 knots in a straight line even from a thousand yards. I think I'm on my fifth patrol now probably, and this problem seem to have arisen in the last couple of patrols. As I said, I didn't have it in the first place. Looking att the combat map I can see the torpedoes veering from their calculated trajectory. I've been forced to surface the boat and sink whatever merchants I've come across with my deckgun. Any ideas? Is this a bug, and if so is there anything that can be done about it?

Red October1984 · 03-18-13, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by acofm89

Hello everyone. I seem to have a problem with my torpedoes. They always seems to pass behind whatever I want to shoot at. For the record I'm using auto-targeting and have TMO 2.5 installed. I've tried to offset the torpedo angle to campensate and I've tried to change the speed setting but nothing seems to work. Funny thing is it didn't seem to be like that from the beginning. On my first patrol I sunk a Japanese battleship from a distance of 3000 y no problem. Now I can't hit a merchant going 5 knots in a straight line even from a thousand yards. I think I'm on my fifth patrol now probably, and this problem seem to have arisen in the last couple of patrols. As I said, I didn't have it in the first place. Looking att the combat map I can see the torpedoes veering from their calculated trajectory. I've been forced to surface the boat and sink whatever merchants I've come across with my deckgun. Any ideas? Is this a bug, and if so is there anything that can be done about it?

Don't compensate the torpedo angle....There's your problem.

If the Auto-Targeting says something, don't correct it. Don't mess with the Gyro Angle or anything. Try this out and see what happens.

razark · 03-18-13, 09:02 PM

Are you opening the torpedo tube doors before firing? Failing to open the doors causes a delay before firing that will cause the torpedo to miss astern of the target.

Edit:
And welcome to Subsim!

acofm89 · 03-19-13, 03:06 AM

I've only tried to adjust the spread angle after I've already fired two or three torpedos and they've all passed behind the ship I'm firing at. I also thought I might have forgotten to open the tubes, but there are times I'm positive that I remembered to do it and it didn't seem too make any difference. One thing I did came to think about though was that I think all of the ship encounters when this has happened took place in the daytime. It's possible they simply saw my torpedoes and increased speed or something even if they didn't seem to react otherwise. They all kept going in a straight line basically

Red October1984 · 03-19-13, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by acofm89

I've only tried to adjust the spread angle after I've already fired two or three torpedos and they've all passed behind the ship I'm firing at. I also thought I might have forgotten to open the tubes, but there are times I'm positive that I remembered to do it and it didn't seem too make any difference. One thing I did came to think about though was that I think all of the ship encounters when this has happened took place in the daytime. It's possible they simply saw my torpedoes and increased speed or something even if they didn't seem to react otherwise. They all kept going in a straight line basically

They might have seen it.

What angle are you firing from? And what mods are you running?

fireftr18 · 03-19-13, 04:32 PM

Welcome aboard Subsim.

Sounds like you need to clean your sensors, wires and buttons. Clean out the inside of the TDC while you're at it. Get on that right away.

Apparently you're using auto targeting. You say you're making sure the torpedo doors are open. Are you "locking on" with the auto target? If you don't, then your "crew" won't make any changes and the gyro angle will remain the same. Lock on and your "crew" and the TDC will continue to update the information and you will probably get an accurate hit.

acofm89 · 03-20-13, 02:25 AM

Red October. I try to position myself slightly ahead of the target ship and fire from about a 45 degree, and I'm running TMO 2.5.

Fireftr. Yes, I did remember to lock on

I've been playing vanilla style for sometime but decided that I had to start playing it with mods since I think the playability of the vanilla version is kind of "meh"

By the way I'd like to thank everyone for welcoming me to the forum and for trying to help me out

I might just have had a streak of bad luck. I mean if every torpedo would be a hit it wouldn't be very fun or rewarding. It would basically be another shoot em' up designed to make the player feel awsome all the time instead of a game that takes effort and patience and rewards the hell out of you when you do succeed in sinking something. I'm also aware of the fact that historically USN torpedos around the time of the outbreak of the war in the Pacific were junk; running in circles and such. So the reason as to why I seem to be missing my targets so often could perhaps be because the game i simulating the garbage torpedos

dannygjk · 03-20-13, 04:15 AM

Yes in WW2 the torpedoes were quite buggy for about the first 18 months. The commanders complained for a long time before some tests were run which determined a few serious bugs

I think the Mark 14 was the worst. If I remember right, if you run the Mark 14 at fast speed and bow angle about 90 degrees you will have more fails than successes!

Dan

acofm89 · 03-20-13, 04:50 AM

Yup, that was the story. The Trigger Maru does a great job replicating the issues with the mk.14 I've noticed. I think that's kind of cool, because it gives you a reason to consider taking the mk.10s instead, for the sake of reliability

One thing I noticed though when I started out my current career is that you could pick the S-boat and still arm it with mk.14 torpedos. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the S-boat's tubes were to short to accomodate the mk.14?
Anyway, thanks for all your suggestions. I actually did manage to torpedo a merchant ship just now, so I might just have been really unlucky before

les green01 · 03-20-13, 08:12 AM

your right the sugar boats tubes was too small for mk.14's

03-18-13, 08:12 PM	#1
acofm89 Watch Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: 20'000 leagues under the sea Posts: 29 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Bugged torpedoes? Hello everyone. I seem to have a problem with my torpedoes. They always seems to pass behind whatever I want to shoot at. For the record I'm using auto-targeting and have TMO 2.5 installed. I've tried to offset the torpedo angle to campensate and I've tried to change the speed setting but nothing seems to work. Funny thing is it didn't seem to be like that from the beginning. On my first patrol I sunk a Japanese battleship from a distance of 3000 y no problem. Now I can't hit a merchant going 5 knots in a straight line even from a thousand yards. I think I'm on my fifth patrol now probably, and this problem seem to have arisen in the last couple of patrols. As I said, I didn't have it in the first place. Looking att the combat map I can see the torpedoes veering from their calculated trajectory. I've been forced to surface the boat and sink whatever merchants I've come across with my deckgun. Any ideas? Is this a bug, and if so is there anything that can be done about it?

03-18-13, 09:02 PM	#3
razark Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,731 Downloads: 393 Uploads: 12	Are you opening the torpedo tube doors before firing? Failing to open the doors causes a delay before firing that will cause the torpedo to miss astern of the target. Edit: And welcome to Subsim! __________________ "Never ask a World War II history buff for a 'final solution' to your problem!"

03-19-13, 04:32 PM	#6
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard Subsim. Sounds like you need to clean your sensors, wires and buttons. Clean out the inside of the TDC while you're at it. Get on that right away. Apparently you're using auto targeting. You say you're making sure the torpedo doors are open. Are you "locking on" with the auto target? If you don't, then your "crew" won't make any changes and the gyro angle will remain the same. Lock on and your "crew" and the TDC will continue to update the information and you will probably get an accurate hit. __________________ Of all the forms of Martial Arts, Karaoke causes the most pain!

03-20-13, 08:12 AM	#10
les green01 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Freeman Missouri Posts: 1,784 Downloads: 1405 Uploads: 0	your right the sugar boats tubes was too small for mk.14's __________________ I'll tell you what bravery really is. Bravery is just determination to do a job that you know has to be done. Audie Murphy

03-19-13, 03:06 AM	#4
acofm89 Watch Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: 20'000 leagues under the sea Posts: 29 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I've only tried to adjust the spread angle after I've already fired two or three torpedos and they've all passed behind the ship I'm firing at. I also thought I might have forgotten to open the tubes, but there are times I'm positive that I remembered to do it and it didn't seem too make any difference. One thing I did came to think about though was that I think all of the ship encounters when this has happened took place in the daytime. It's possible they simply saw my torpedoes and increased speed or something even if they didn't seem to react otherwise. They all kept going in a straight line basically

03-20-13, 02:25 AM	#7
acofm89 Watch Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: 20'000 leagues under the sea Posts: 29 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Red October. I try to position myself slightly ahead of the target ship and fire from about a 45 degree, and I'm running TMO 2.5. Fireftr. Yes, I did remember to lock on I've been playing vanilla style for sometime but decided that I had to start playing it with mods since I think the playability of the vanilla version is kind of "meh" By the way I'd like to thank everyone for welcoming me to the forum and for trying to help me out I might just have had a streak of bad luck. I mean if every torpedo would be a hit it wouldn't be very fun or rewarding. It would basically be another shoot em' up designed to make the player feel awsome all the time instead of a game that takes effort and patience and rewards the hell out of you when you do succeed in sinking something. I'm also aware of the fact that historically USN torpedos around the time of the outbreak of the war in the Pacific were junk; running in circles and such. So the reason as to why I seem to be missing my targets so often could perhaps be because the game i simulating the garbage torpedos

03-20-13, 04:15 AM	#8
dannygjk Mate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 54 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Yes in WW2 the torpedoes were quite buggy for about the first 18 months. The commanders complained for a long time before some tests were run which determined a few serious bugs I think the Mark 14 was the worst. If I remember right, if you run the Mark 14 at fast speed and bow angle about 90 degrees you will have more fails than successes! Dan

03-20-13, 04:50 AM	#9
acofm89 Watch Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: 20'000 leagues under the sea Posts: 29 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Yup, that was the story. The Trigger Maru does a great job replicating the issues with the mk.14 I've noticed. I think that's kind of cool, because it gives you a reason to consider taking the mk.10s instead, for the sake of reliability One thing I noticed though when I started out my current career is that you could pick the S-boat and still arm it with mk.14 torpedos. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the S-boat's tubes were to short to accomodate the mk.14? Anyway, thanks for all your suggestions. I actually did manage to torpedo a merchant ship just now, so I might just have been really unlucky before