Frozen Ships?

trenken · 02-09-06, 08:24 PM

I see a ship a long way away, and I see that the speed is at medium. Yet this thing is not moving. It's like it's frozen. What's the deal?

panthercules · 02-09-06, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by trenken

I see a ship a long way away, and I see that the speed is at medium. Yet this thing is not moving. It's like it's frozen. What's the deal?

Yeah - weird - I ran into this the other night - I've been reading posts around here for months about people running across ships stopped out in mid-ocean, but I always assumed that they meant actually stopped at zero speed. I spotted a merchant at about 10km and closed on it to see if it was enemy and I could attack it. It turned out to be a lone German merchant, but the odd thing was that despite the fact that graphically it looked like it was going about 6-8 knots (from smoke and wake/bow wave), it was actually stuck/stopped dead, almost like it had run aground (though it was out in over 1,000m depths). Very odd.

I radioed in a contact report so maybe she could get a tow, and headed off to find some real targets.

trenken · 02-09-06, 09:40 PM

Well it's real nice considering this is the 1st ship i've encountered in my career. Just got this game. It's weird because it just appeared on my map. I was never given any messaged about it.

trenken · 02-09-06, 10:07 PM

Yay, another frozen ship. This game is great! Lol

I noticed after a while, their icon just fades away. Not sure why.

trenken · 02-09-06, 10:25 PM

And now I see one of my ally ships is frozen. What is going on? I'm wondering if my game is completely broken. This is very dissapointing on my very 1st patrol.

trenken · 02-09-06, 11:34 PM

Well I deleted my old profile, started a new one, and I still have the same problem. I've come to the realization that in career mode, no ships work aside from mine no matter what I do. I'm going to look into getting this refunded. Wasn't even worth the $20 I paid for it.

CCIP · 02-09-06, 11:43 PM

I've never heard of this before.

What version of the game do you use? Is it properly patched? Mods?

Hedges · 02-10-06, 09:06 AM

I think what you are seeing is a spotted contact from another ship or plane. Depending on how close it is you either ignore it or make a path to where you think it will be. Don't try and go to that point of contact but based on it's course you should go where you think it will be. If you go to the spot that it is at then it will be gone by the time you get there.

What i do is i will mark the spot of the sighting of the ship. Then i will use the ruler (or eyeball it) to kind of plot a straight course to where i think it is going. I will then move myself to that spot while point to that spot from a 90 degree angle. Then if i think i have beaten it i will completely stop my engines and wait (use compressed time but be careful with 1024X).

Don't bother with sightings in quadrants 2 or more away. You'll never get there in time.

panthercules · 02-10-06, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by trenken

Well I deleted my old profile, started a new one, and I still have the same problem. I've come to the realization that in career mode, no ships work aside from mine no matter what I do. I'm going to look into getting this refunded. Wasn't even worth the $20 I paid for it.

I'd give some things a try before junking it - I've been playing since day 1 (almost a year now?) and this has only happened to me once (and I've never seen anybody else complaining of more than the occasional stopped ship), and the rest of the ships I've run into on this same patrol have been working just fine. There's definitely something weird going on with your install - like the other poster said, it may just be a matter of incorrect patches or some wierd mod or something. This game is a blast when it works, and it has taken a whole lot less fiddling with than IL-2 or some other games I've had ever did to make it work right, so you might want to at least try uninstalling/re-installing the whole game or something before you just give up on it.

Good luck!

Kaptan Tommy · 02-10-06, 09:17 AM

trenken, are you talking about ships you actually "eyeball" with your binoculars or scope, or just ones that appear as 'squares' on the map?

If it's just on the map, I think Hedges has it right.

And like panthercules says, "this game is a blast" when it's set up and working right. I love it!

Did you install the official patch from Ubisoft?

panthercules · 02-10-06, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by trenken

Yay, another frozen ship. This game is great! Lol

I noticed after a while, their icon just fades away. Not sure why.

Hmm - after seeing one of the other responses, now I'm confused - are you actually looking at the ships themselves from reasonably close range (i.e., from the bridge, or the 'scope), and they're not moving along the surface of the ocean (which is the situation i described in my first response above), or are you just talking about their icons not moving on the Nav map screen (as seems to be what Hedges' response was referring to)?

If it's the latter, then Hedges is correct - the icons on the nav map do not generally get updated in real time - they are just static markers placed at the time the initial sighting report occurs, and they do fade out after a few hours since they have basically become irrelevant/unreliable indicators of position after enough time has passed since the ship would have moved on a good distance by then (and might have changed course etc.) This is not a bug or anything wrong - you just have to develop appropriate interception methods to get your boat close enough to the target ship to spot it visually or on hydrophones and then close in for the kill (unless it's a friendly or neutral anyway).

Good luck and good hunting!

trenken · 02-10-06, 09:22 AM

I am running 1.4b and no mods.

Here is what's happening. The ships around my port when I head out are working. When I get to my patrol area, I start my patterns and all of a sudden a red warship will popup. No radio messages about it or anything. It gives me the info about speed and heading. So then I time compress it, I keep moving, but they don't. And after a while, the icon just starts very slowly fading away.

Kaptan Tommy · 02-10-06, 09:43 AM

Sounds like you're talking about the little squares that supposedly indicate a ship in the vicinity (a 'reported' ship). When you try to get there, you're missing them (either by being too late, or not intercepting them properly). Happens every day...

trenken · 02-10-06, 09:48 AM

Yeah, but up until now, they actually moved on the map. These say they are moving at medium speed, but never actually move.

Hedges · 02-10-06, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by trenken

I am running 1.4b and no mods.

Here is what's happening. The ships around my port when I head out are working. When I get to my patrol area, I start my patterns and all of a sudden a red warship will popup. No radio messages about it or anything. It gives me the info about speed and heading. So then I time compress it, I keep moving, but they don't. And after a while, the icon just starts very slowly fading away.

This sounds exactly like what i was talking about.

You don't have to search and destroy things in your patrol area. you just have to be there for 24 hours. I normally will go there and patrol and after 24 hours will head to an enemy port for some hide and seak fun. I do almost all of my killings near an enemy port not in my patrol area.

Don't go after every report you see. things like speed, bearing, distance are all important things when determining if i should go after it.

02-09-06, 08:24 PM	#1
trenken Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 565 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Frozen Ships? I see a ship a long way away, and I see that the speed is at medium. Yet this thing is not moving. It's like it's frozen. What's the deal?

02-09-06, 11:43 PM	#7
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I've never heard of this before. What version of the game do you use? Is it properly patched? Mods? __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

02-10-06, 09:17 AM	#10
Kaptan Tommy Planesman Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: USA Carson City, NV Posts: 182 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	trenken, are you talking about ships you actually "eyeball" with your binoculars or scope, or just ones that appear as 'squares' on the map? If it's just on the map, I think Hedges has it right. And like panthercules says, "this game is a blast" when it's set up and working right. I love it! Did you install the official patch from Ubisoft? __________________ Quit farting around reading the forums and sink some ships!

02-10-06, 09:43 AM	#13
Kaptan Tommy Planesman Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: USA Carson City, NV Posts: 182 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sounds like you're talking about the little squares that supposedly indicate a ship in the vicinity (a 'reported' ship). When you try to get there, you're missing them (either by being too late, or not intercepting them properly). Happens every day... __________________ Quit farting around reading the forums and sink some ships!

02-09-06, 09:40 PM	#3
trenken Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 565 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well it's real nice considering this is the 1st ship i've encountered in my career. Just got this game. It's weird because it just appeared on my map. I was never given any messaged about it.

02-09-06, 10:07 PM	#4
trenken Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 565 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yay, another frozen ship. This game is great! Lol I noticed after a while, their icon just fades away. Not sure why.

02-09-06, 10:25 PM	#5
trenken Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 565 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	And now I see one of my ally ships is frozen. What is going on? I'm wondering if my game is completely broken. This is very dissapointing on my very 1st patrol.

02-09-06, 11:34 PM	#6
trenken Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 565 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well I deleted my old profile, started a new one, and I still have the same problem. I've come to the realization that in career mode, no ships work aside from mine no matter what I do. I'm going to look into getting this refunded. Wasn't even worth the $20 I paid for it.

02-10-06, 09:06 AM	#8
Hedges Watch Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 25 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think what you are seeing is a spotted contact from another ship or plane. Depending on how close it is you either ignore it or make a path to where you think it will be. Don't try and go to that point of contact but based on it's course you should go where you think it will be. If you go to the spot that it is at then it will be gone by the time you get there. What i do is i will mark the spot of the sighting of the ship. Then i will use the ruler (or eyeball it) to kind of plot a straight course to where i think it is going. I will then move myself to that spot while point to that spot from a 90 degree angle. Then if i think i have beaten it i will completely stop my engines and wait (use compressed time but be careful with 1024X). Don't bother with sightings in quadrants 2 or more away. You'll never get there in time.

02-10-06, 09:22 AM	#12
trenken Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 565 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I am running 1.4b and no mods. Here is what's happening. The ships around my port when I head out are working. When I get to my patrol area, I start my patterns and all of a sudden a red warship will popup. No radio messages about it or anything. It gives me the info about speed and heading. So then I time compress it, I keep moving, but they don't. And after a while, the icon just starts very slowly fading away.

02-10-06, 09:48 AM	#14
trenken Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 565 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah, but up until now, they actually moved on the map. These say they are moving at medium speed, but never actually move.