TSA Will Permit Knives, Golf Clubs on U.S. Planes

[Feuer Frei!]

The U.S. Transportation Security Administration will let people carry small pocketknives onto passenger planes for the first time since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, along with golf clubs, hockey sticks and plastic Wiffle Ball-style bats.



The agency will permit knives with retractable blades shorter than 6 centimeters (2.36 inches) and narrower than 1/2 inch, TSA Administrator John Pistole said today at an aviation security conference in Brooklyn. The change, to conform with international rules, takes effect April 25.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...-s-planes.html

[August]

About time.

Nobody is going to hijack a plane with this:

[Red October1984]

I'm all for this....I randomly carry a knife around. (Not in certain public places) They're handy little tools to have. Of course the one I have that I carry won't pass those specs. I've got other small ones that I could take traveling.

Because when you just CAN'T open that snack with your teeth....when you get that odd hangnail...when you got a splinter....when you need to get into a box...

Or when something needs to be cut...

I'm not talking about people. Knives are nice little things to have. Now if you are like me and carry a 3 1/2 inch spring assisted Smith and Wesson Black Ops knife....weeellllll...You are just going to have to settle for a smaller knife. I won't complain. I'm glad that this is happening.

[Buddahaid]

Seriously, someone might have a comfy chair though.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...ail&FORM=VIRE1

I'm actually surprised by such rational thought. Is this a joke?

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I'm actually surprised by such rational thought. Is this a joke?

My first thought exactly. I had to look into it a bit. I didn't believe it at first...but sure enough....it is a real decision that government officials actually made.

Best part? They actually made a good decision.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by August

About time.

Nobody is going to hijack a plane with this:

I don't know, I read somewhere where a bunch guys hijacked a few airliners with these



It is not the actual damage a weapon can do, but the threat of the weapon that allows people to hijack aircraft. Especially, when the airline policy is not to resist. Which I hope has changed. There are risks to resisting and not resisting hijackers, as we have all witnessed.

Up close, and with the proper training, a swiss army knife is just as capable of threatening/injuring/killing someone as some other weapons.

Personally, I am glad TSA is allowing knives on board. Too bad my model of Swiss Army Knife is still prohibited.



If I ever decide to fly again, I will have to get one of my smaller ones to take with me. I have been carrying a swiss army knife with me since I was 8 years old. I feel naked without one.

I'd rather someone came at me with a knife rather then a utility/box knife!
The cuts in a slashing motion with the utility are much worse.
That's what kills you in the fight.

[August]

Originally Posted by Platapus

It is not the actual damage a weapon can do, but the threat of the weapon that allows people to hijack aircraft. Especially, when the airline policy is not to resist. Which I hope has changed. There are risks to resisting and not resisting hijackers, as we have all witnessed.

I seriously doubt that there will be a successful hijacking here in the states in the foreseeable future. You might be able to control a couple hundred passengers with a box cutter if they think all you'll do is demand that the plane be flown to Cuba but not if they think you'll fly the plane into a building.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by August

You might be able to control a couple hundred passengers with a box cutter if they think all you'll do is demand that the plane be flown to Cuba bu

I know how I'll pay the trip for my vacation this year.

[August]

Originally Posted by Betonov

I know how I'll pay the trip for my vacation this year.

Good luck getting anyone to believe that in the post 911 world.

You and your box cutter would be quickly gang tackled and tied to a seat until the Marshals can escort you off the plane at it's regular destination.

[Feuer Frei!]

And just for you people who don't like reading words:



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[Platapus]

too bad my SAK has a locking blade.

Not sure I understand the concern about molded grip. Sounds a lot like the prohibition of "thumb holes" during the assault weapon debate.

[August]

So I guess my knife is right out...

[Singed]

Originally Posted by Platapus

too bad my SAK has a locking blade.

Not sure I understand the concern about molded grip. Sounds a lot like the prohibition of "thumb holes" during the assault weapon debate.

It is an assault knife because it is scary looking!

IMO: They need to do some things to give the illusion of relaxing regulations but still want to keep the bans absolutely as broad as possible. Too many Americans are too fed up with intrusive government and the TSA has justifiably been catching a lot of the flak.

I don't think it matters much what they allow or don't allow on board short of explosives, it will be a very long time before you see Americans peacefully cooperate with hijackers again.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by August

So I guess my knife is right out...

I always smiled when I saw those handgun bayonets for sale.

A fix bayonets and charge! Poke poke poke