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02-01-13, 11:26 PM

Vogon planning.

Sailor Steve · 02-01-13, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

He never filed copyrights so can't fight on He's a sure winner for those cases if he shows up in Court, in person!

Well, you know the old joke:

God finally gets so upset he tells the Devil He's going to take him to court. The Devil says "You'll lose."

God asks "What makes you think so?"

Satan answers "Where are you going to find a lawyer?"

Platapus · 02-02-13, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

More confusingly... why and how does he give money to God, who doesn't need it?

Perhaps god has a paypal account?

Onkel Neal · 02-02-13, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

I expect to be payed by the guy who employs me and for whom to work I accepted - and that is my employer, the company, boss, maitre de maison, whomever.

Tips are not meant to replace ordinary and regular income for the work done. They are meant as an additional bonus by a guests who is pleased by the good service and wants to say thanks and express his appreciations for some performance that has gone beyond the minimum standard niveau that has to be expected for the price that got payed to the house.

That's the way is should be, imo. I really do not care for the way servers are paid substandard wages by the establishment and have to rely on tips to make up the difference.

Jimbuna · 02-02-13, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

That's the way is should be, imo. I really do not care for the way servers are paid substandard wages by the establishment and have to rely on tips to make up the difference.

As ot is here in the UK

Skybird · 02-02-13, 11:58 AM

You may not care, Neal. Like the customer doe snot care that when he buys his textiles ultra-cheap in a budget chain shop, he supports child labour and slavery sales to women in Bangladesh who work 14 hours a day for an apple and an egg without any social insurance, working place safety and so more. Such a customer also doers not care what he supports in bad things.

But both examples remain to be illustrations for the predatory and inhumane nature of capitalism if it is being let off the chain and is allowed to unfold unregulated and uncontrolled, and both examples illustrate unethical behavior by customers. You do not care for the exploitation of employees, and the other guy does not care for slave saleries and child work.

You shouldn't tip the servicestaff, Neal. Give the tip to the manager in the backroom instead. That keeps his employees hungry and working harder for lesser money.

Jimbuna · 02-02-13, 12:01 PM

^ not sure if something has been lost in translation but you do realise Neal was supporting your viewpoint...yes?

Sailor Steve · 02-02-13, 12:33 PM

Yes, obviously translation problems. In this case "I do not care for the way servers are paid substandard wages" doesn't mean he doesn't care about it, but that he doesn't like it. It's an oddity of English that is sometimes easy to misunderstand.

Onkel Neal · 02-02-13, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

You may not care, Neal. Like the customer doe snot care that when he buys his textiles ultra-cheap in a budget chain shop, he supports child labour and slavery sales to women in Bangladesh who work 14 hours a day for an apple and an egg without any social insurance, working place safety and so more. Such a customer also doers not care what he supports in bad things.

But both examples remain to be illustrations for the predatory and inhumane nature of capitalism if it is being let off the chain and is allowed to unfold unregulated and uncontrolled, and both examples illustrate unethical behavior by customers. You do not care for the exploitation of employees, and the other guy does not care for slave saleries and child work.

You shouldn't tip the servicestaff, Neal. Give the tip to the manager in the backroom instead. That keeps his employees hungry and working harder for lesser money.

I totally do not understand what you are trying to say?

Maybe you misunderstand me, what I mean when I said I don't care for is I do not like

Would you like some tea?
No, I don't care for it.

I really do not like the way servers are paid substandard wages by the establishment and have to rely on tips to make up the difference.

Targor Avelany · 02-02-13, 08:05 PM

people talk about proper, morality, fairness - we even have political correctness for that - and nevertheless 75% of the population only means self righteousness when they talk about those things.. Not actually believing in them whatsoever.

sad...

Skybird · 02-02-13, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I totally do not understand what you are trying to say?

Maybe you misunderstand me, what I mean when I said I don't care for is I do not like

Would you like some tea?
No, I don't care for it.

I really do not like the way servers are paid substandard wages by the establishment and have to rely on tips to make up the difference.

Forgive me, Neal. I indeed had a very hard time to imagine what you wanted to say, both sentences to me were very contradictory, and I passed twice over the course of this day to write an answer, until on the third attempt I finally did - when I decided to interpret you the way I finally did.

Which obviously was the wrong interpretation.

Completely my own fault: my English capabilities failed me there. Sorry.

Note to myself: must add the phrase "I do not care" to my list of contemporary idioms.

Onkel Neal · 02-04-13, 11:42 PM

Hey, no problem. You know I am pro-business, but surely not to that extent

Capitalism and market economies require fair treatment of workers to ensure success. I do not like the system where restaurant businesses are allowed to pay wait staff and servers $2.10 an hour and expect them to make it up in tips. Now, most servers do make well over minimum wage in tips and base pay, but I can sympathize with a server when the get stiffed by cheapskates. It's thanks to honest customers who will tip good service that they are able to survive, I don't care for non-tipping customers who expect you and me to do all the tipping.

And just to reiterate, the phrase is "I do not care for ...."

HunterICX · 02-05-13, 06:45 AM

I usually leave the coin change on the tray when they return after having paid the bill.

HunterICX

GT182 · 02-05-13, 09:58 AM

There are eateries that 'pool' tips, and they're split with the waitstaff and cooks. Why the cooks I don't know as they make more money than the waitstaff.

I've even seen some places where the owner takes the tips keeps a part of them, then splits them among the workers. And I've seen him punched in the mouth for doing that, by a customer after he found out what was going on.

True story, but it happened back in the 80s where my ex worked.

02-02-13, 11:58 AM	#51
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,644 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	You may not care, Neal. Like the customer doe snot care that when he buys his textiles ultra-cheap in a budget chain shop, he supports child labour and slavery sales to women in Bangladesh who work 14 hours a day for an apple and an egg without any social insurance, working place safety and so more. Such a customer also doers not care what he supports in bad things. But both examples remain to be illustrations for the predatory and inhumane nature of capitalism if it is being let off the chain and is allowed to unfold unregulated and uncontrolled, and both examples illustrate unethical behavior by customers. You do not care for the exploitation of employees, and the other guy does not care for slave saleries and child work. You shouldn't tip the servicestaff, Neal. Give the tip to the manager in the backroom instead. That keeps his employees hungry and working harder for lesser money. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-02-13, 12:01 PM	#52
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,584 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	^ not sure if something has been lost in translation but you do realise Neal was supporting your viewpoint...yes? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-02-13, 12:33 PM	#53
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Yes, obviously translation problems. In this case "I do not care for the way servers are paid substandard wages" doesn't mean he doesn't care about it, but that he doesn't like it. It's an oddity of English that is sometimes easy to misunderstand. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo Last edited by Sailor Steve; 02-02-13 at 12:34 PM.

02-04-13, 11:42 PM	#57
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Hey, no problem. You know I am pro-business, but surely not to that extent Capitalism and market economies require fair treatment of workers to ensure success. I do not like the system where restaurant businesses are allowed to pay wait staff and servers $2.10 an hour and expect them to make it up in tips. Now, most servers do make well over minimum wage in tips and base pay, but I can sympathize with a server when the get stiffed by cheapskates. It's thanks to honest customers who will tip good service that they are able to survive, I don't care for non-tipping customers who expect you and me to do all the tipping. And just to reiterate, the phrase is "I do not care for ...." __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

02-05-13, 06:45 AM	#58
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I usually leave the coin change on the tray when they return after having paid the bill. HunterICX __________________

02-01-13, 11:26 PM	#46
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Vogon planning.

02-02-13, 08:05 PM	#55
Targor Avelany Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 1,183 Downloads: 225 Uploads: 0	people talk about proper, morality, fairness - we even have political correctness for that - and nevertheless 75% of the population only means self righteousness when they talk about those things.. Not actually believing in them whatsoever. sad...

02-05-13, 09:58 AM	#59
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	There are eateries that 'pool' tips, and they're split with the waitstaff and cooks. Why the cooks I don't know as they make more money than the waitstaff. I've even seen some places where the owner takes the tips keeps a part of them, then splits them among the workers. And I've seen him punched in the mouth for doing that, by a customer after he found out what was going on. True story, but it happened back in the 80s where my ex worked. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.