The next HBO/Spielberg/Hanks WW2 miniseries is a go... - Page 2

Dowly · 01-21-13, 02:43 PM

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U-571 was the last good naval movie they had

CaptainMattJ. · 01-21-13, 04:01 PM

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For Hollywood, it was good. So many members of this forum have major griefs with it's accuracy,but forget that its a general public Hollywood movie, since when have you expected a great deal of accuracy? I went into the movie with no expectation of that "Das boot" realistic feeling and came out slightly impressed with how Hollywood manged to get some things correct, even if the whole premise was totally false (obviously it was the british who first captured an enigma, and the film acknowledges that at the end.)

It was an action movie, and for that it wasn't that bad. AFAIK there hasnt been a decent modern naval warfare movie since, not counting Master and Commander. The thing i do hate about U-571 was the whole "Woo! Go America!" type of patriotic bull that hollywood decides to snuff so many films with. I was never into that sense of hyper-nationalism and neither were many of the men serving in the war. It was your average action flick, and while not being terrible for it's action scenes, it was full of inaccuracies and demonization of the average kriegsmarine sailor.

Jimbuna · 01-21-13, 04:03 PM

Most seriously flawed for its historical inaccuracies which I honestly feel viewers would appreciate more then the so called 'action'.

CaptainMattJ. · 01-21-13, 04:44 PM

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Most seriously flawed for its historical inaccuracies which I honestly feel viewers would appreciate more then the so called 'action'.

Again, it's hollywood. They try to appeal to a dumbed down audience. They went in the general direction of how a submarine really operates but they focused more on action sequences and patriotism and duty than the details and deeper character development. Not many movies have pulled off both intense action and in-depth character development along with accuracies, and have all areas be rich and interesting and a great experience.

If they had a Band of brothers for naval warfare in the pacific (maybe even the atlantic, who knows), it would seriously boost the lacking field of good navy flicks.

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 01-21-13, 05:34 PM

I would think that the next miniseries would be about the Navy considering that Band of Brothers was about the Army, The Pacific was about the Marine Corps and this new one is about the Air Force (even though the air force at the time was the US Army Air Corps.)
Personally I wouldn't mind that a miniseries that showed WW2 from the point of view of the British, French, Germans, etc but thats just me.

Red October1984 · 01-21-13, 06:46 PM

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I would think that the next miniseries would be about the Navy considering that Band of Brothers was about the Army, The Pacific was about the Marine Corps and this new one is about the Air Force (even though the air force at the time was the US Army Air Corps.)
Personally I wouldn't mind that a miniseries that showed WW2 from the point of view of the British, French, Germans, etc but thats just me.

Good post...

I think a Band of Brother-type-thing from the German's perspective would be good...maybe the Invasion of The Soviet Union as the storyline...maybe half is from Germany's POV and the other half is Soviet POV...

mapuc · 01-21-13, 06:53 PM

you should ask your self this question

The WWII series band of brothers are based on a novel
and the coming WWII series Masters of...

Is there a novel that could be made into a WWII series about the life on a DD, Sub, you name it.

Markus

Platapus · 01-21-13, 07:06 PM

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U-571 was the last good naval movie they made...

Good as in the context that Pearl Harbor was good.

Even stripping away the multitude of historical inaccuracies (unnecessary inaccuracies) I did not think the acting nor the action was that noteworthy.

But to each his own. That's why going to the movies is voluntary in the US.

Platapus · 01-21-13, 07:07 PM

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Is there a novel that could be made into a WWII series about the life on a DD, Sub, you name it.

Run Silent Run deep as Beach wrote it.

Final Harbor would also make a good movie if filmed right.

Sailor Steve · 01-21-13, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

For Hollywood, it was good. So many members of this forum have major griefs with it's accuracy,but forget that its a general public Hollywood movie, since when have you expected a great deal of accuracy?

It's not that there isn't a great deal of accuracy, it's that there is none at all. They somehow managed to screw up even the tiniest details, which even five minutes of research would have shown them.

As for the movie itself, it was trite, contrived, and annoyingly stupid. I could have written a better plot. The movie is just plain bad.

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Again, it's hollywood. They try to appeal to a dumbed down audience.

And you liked it.

Sailor Steve · 01-21-13, 07:14 PM

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I(even though the air force at the time was the US Army Air Corps.)

Actually it was the US Army Air Forces. It ceased being the Air Corps in June 1941.

Sailor Steve · 01-21-13, 07:15 PM

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Good as in the context that Pearl Harbor was good.

Red October1984 · 01-21-13, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

you should ask your self this question

The WWII series band of brothers are based on a novel
and the coming WWII series Masters of...

Is there a novel that could be made into a WWII series about the life on a DD, Sub, you name it.

Markus

War in the Boats: My WW2 Submarine Battles by Captain William J. Ruhe, USN (Ret.)

I'm reading it now. It's nonfiction but it reads like a novel. I think it would make a great movie.

August · 01-21-13, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Good as in the context that Pearl Harbor was good.

Even stripping away the multitude of historical inaccuracies (unnecessary inaccuracies) I did not think the acting nor the action was that noteworthy.

But to each his own. That's why going to the movies is voluntary in the US.

Yeah but you get to see Jon Bon Jovi get nailed with a hatch cover to the face!

Platapus · 01-21-13, 07:48 PM

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Yeah but you get to see Jon Bon Jovi get nailed with a hatch cover to the face!

Ok, a movie can't be ALL bad.

01-21-13, 04:03 PM	#18
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Most seriously flawed for its historical inaccuracies which I honestly feel viewers would appreciate more then the so called 'action'. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Kptlt. Neuerburg Admiral Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,279 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	I would think that the next miniseries would be about the Navy considering that Band of Brothers was about the Army, The Pacific was about the Marine Corps and this new one is about the Air Force (even though the air force at the time was the US Army Air Corps.) Personally I wouldn't mind that a miniseries that showed WW2 from the point of view of the British, French, Germans, etc but thats just me. __________________ "When you're born into this world, you're given a ticket to the freak show. If you're born in America you get a front row seat." - George Carlin

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mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	you should ask your self this question The WWII series band of brothers are based on a novel and the coming WWII series Masters of... Is there a novel that could be made into a WWII series about the life on a DD, Sub, you name it. Markus