Of cartoons, censorship, and hysteria - Page 4

Onkel Neal · 02-03-06, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Marhkimov

I'd like to see if anyone here is brave enough to defend the general behavior of Islam....

Anyone? :hmm:

Not a matter of brave, I would have to agree with it first.

I find it fall-down funny, all this talk about some cartoons, but where the hell are they?? Why is it they are not included in the articles? I mean, we gotta know what it is we are talking about.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004413.htm

Skybird · 02-03-06, 06:16 AM

http://muttawa.blogspot.com/

If they ever would catch him, he will have all hell to suffer

Muslim Offense Level has been raised to "High" (condition orange)

The Avon Lady · 02-03-06, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Muslim Offense Level has been raised to "High" (condition orange)

MadMike · 02-03-06, 09:16 AM

Never mind depictions of Westerners and Israeli's in the Arab media-

http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-21.htm

Heard some interesting info on the radio last night. Seems the "Council on American Islamic Relations" had a picture on their website soon after Sept 11th; after one clicked the link it asked for donations to "The Holy Land Foundation"- which of course was a front for Hamas.

Yours, Mike

Ducimus · 02-03-06, 11:43 AM

Is this the true face of Islam?

I'm begining to wonder :hmm:

Skybird · 02-03-06, 11:53 AM

Some minutes ago I received a mail by someone who told me that my past essays and comments on Islam's history reminded him of this:

http://www.patriotist.com/miscarch/cp20011119.htm

I see parallels.

Happy Times · 02-03-06, 12:44 PM

The conflict is coming and US might get a all of EU next to them. Funny thing is that George Bush could be remembered when the history is written, as a the number one defender of western freedom.

Ducimus · 02-03-06, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

The conflict is coming and US might get a all of EU next to them. Funny thing is that George Bush could be remembered when the history is written, as a the number one defender of western freedom.

I was bored one day, and copy/ed n pasted his latest state of the union address in MS Word. Since the start of it was so rhetorical, i was curious about something.

From begining to end, he used the word "freedom", 17 times.

Onkel Neal · 02-03-06, 05:18 PM

The western world should simply cut off travel in and out of muslim countries, quaranteen them, until they advance out of the middle ages.

Skybird · 02-03-06, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

The western world should simply cut off travel in and out of muslim countries, quaranteen them, until they advance out of the middle ages.

We're on the same side in this, differing only in minor details.

But we both know that this is unrealistic, isn't it...

Happy Times · 02-03-06, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

The western world should simply cut off travel in and out of muslim countries, quaranteen them, until they advance out of the middle ages.

We're on the same side in this, differing only in minor details.

But we both know that this is unrealistic, isn't it...

Well we better get it going because theres only 800 million of "us" stretching all over the planet.

jumpy · 02-03-06, 06:00 PM

In regards to ex-patriot muslims (or any other denomination really) living in the UK who are causing public unrest and being generally offensive, I feel it would be a good idea to take a leaf out of Bahrain's attitude towards that kind of thing. Allow me to ellaborate; when I lived out there, it was well known in the western ex-pat community that if you transgressed the rules or broke the law in some fashion (think along the lines of commiting a crime or agitating the host nations public feeling) you would almost certainly be delivered to your respective embassy with clear instructions that you were to be deported forthwith and would not under any circumstances be welcome back into the country and would face arrest were you to attempt to re-enter the State of Bahrain. If your crime was serious then you were regarded as a foreign national and subject to your counrys law and judiciary, not Bahrains'. I don't know if this still holds true as its been a while since I was there.
I think this attitude coupled with a stiffer spine in some of our politicians would make for a perfectly reasonable solution to those folk who were intent on causing trouble- repatriot them. Tow the line and behave and you can stay for as long as you and your family wish and enjoy what we take for granted in our every day freedoms. Piss off the locals and you can jolly well go back to where you came from, we do not want or need that kind of behaviour here.

Pigs might fly though...

TteFAboB · 02-03-06, 06:28 PM

This is an opportunity we cannot waste.

Skybird can't you see it?

We need more Mohammed, everywhere, it's our chance to end the subversion and face what most try to ignore.

We must get all Western nations boycotted, apparently all it takes is ONE newspaper to publish ONE cartoon!!! Our power is superior to Allah! We can change the life of millions of Arabs and Muslims with ONE cartoon! Cartoon by cartoon, the masked pillars of Islam will crumble and the truth will be revealed once and for all.

All it takes is one editor for each nation, any volunteers?

AG124 · 02-03-06, 06:30 PM

I'm getting sick of hearing about Muslim extremists demanding that we change our laws, culture, and now even the basis for our entire society. And I know this is making me sound like a racist or bigot, but when they are actually crowding our streets chanting for a jihad against all of us for a couple of cartoons or "freedom of speech, go to hell" (which was a slogan on several signs I noticed) I think we really do have reason to worry. They really shouldn't hope for a "clash of civilizations" (as some Muslim's were screaming for one enthusiastically tonight on the news) - if there was a total all-out war between them and the West, I doubt they would stand much chance in the long run. But what concernes me is that Western governments will band over backwards to accomodate them in any way possible - until we are banned from doing anything which they deem to be unholy (meanwhile in their own countries, they will do nothing to accomodate anything we ask from them and will continue to harbour terrorists). They apparently have no fear of our nations now - they were able to roam the streets of France destroying and attacking whatever and whoever they could find (with a low number of arrests and I believe, moderate prison sentences to the handful that were caught). I don't even think we should be allowing huge scores of them to flee to our countries - I believe in multiculturalism and the promotion of divergent cultures but the majority of muslims appear to only call for the subjugation of other cultures and refuse to accept any belief that does not conform perfectly to their own.

Maybe there are a few moderates asking for a more restrained response, but I don't see any. The huge crowds of screaming fanatics calling for the spilling of our blood, the destruction of our civilized societies, and the erasing of every democratic principle which we have worked hard to establish must be drowning them out.

I just have to get that off my chest - I am really worried about what the future holds for Western countries against such an unruly mob of crazed fanatics. I am not a racist though - this is about extremist religion and the overturning of liberal democracy to me. I hope such a rant does not violate SubSim's policies in any way - if so I will delete it and not post another.

caspofungin · 02-03-06, 06:53 PM

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Maybe there are a few moderates asking for a more restrained response, but I don't see any

I haven't responded at all -- now that's restrained.

02-03-06, 06:16 AM	#47
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,717 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	http://muttawa.blogspot.com/ If they ever would catch him, he will have all hell to suffer Muslim Offense Level has been raised to "High" (condition orange) __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-03-06, 11:53 AM	#51
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,717 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Some minutes ago I received a mail by someone who told me that my past essays and comments on Islam's history reminded him of this: http://www.patriotist.com/miscarch/cp20011119.htm I see parallels. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-03-06, 12:44 PM	#52
Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,950 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The conflict is coming and US might get a all of EU next to them. Funny thing is that George Bush could be remembered when the history is written, as a the number one defender of western freedom. __________________

02-03-06, 06:00 PM	#57
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	In regards to ex-patriot muslims (or any other denomination really) living in the UK who are causing public unrest and being generally offensive, I feel it would be a good idea to take a leaf out of Bahrain's attitude towards that kind of thing. Allow me to ellaborate; when I lived out there, it was well known in the western ex-pat community that if you transgressed the rules or broke the law in some fashion (think along the lines of commiting a crime or agitating the host nations public feeling) you would almost certainly be delivered to your respective embassy with clear instructions that you were to be deported forthwith and would not under any circumstances be welcome back into the country and would face arrest were you to attempt to re-enter the State of Bahrain. If your crime was serious then you were regarded as a foreign national and subject to your counrys law and judiciary, not Bahrains'. I don't know if this still holds true as its been a while since I was there. I think this attitude coupled with a stiffer spine in some of our politicians would make for a perfectly reasonable solution to those folk who were intent on causing trouble- repatriot them. Tow the line and behave and you can stay for as long as you and your family wish and enjoy what we take for granted in our every day freedoms. Piss off the locals and you can jolly well go back to where you came from, we do not want or need that kind of behaviour here. Pigs might fly though... __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

02-03-06, 06:28 PM	#58
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	This is an opportunity we cannot waste. Skybird can't you see it? We need more Mohammed, everywhere, it's our chance to end the subversion and face what most try to ignore. We must get all Western nations boycotted, apparently all it takes is ONE newspaper to publish ONE cartoon!!! Our power is superior to Allah! We can change the life of millions of Arabs and Muslims with ONE cartoon! Cartoon by cartoon, the masked pillars of Islam will crumble and the truth will be revealed once and for all. All it takes is one editor for each nation, any volunteers? __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

02-03-06, 09:16 AM	#49
MadMike Watch Officer Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 342 Downloads: 241 Uploads: 0	Never mind depictions of Westerners and Israeli's in the Arab media- http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-21.htm Heard some interesting info on the radio last night. Seems the "Council on American Islamic Relations" had a picture on their website soon after Sept 11th; after one clicked the link it asked for donations to "The Holy Land Foundation"- which of course was a front for Hamas. Yours, Mike

02-03-06, 11:43 AM	#50
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Is this the true face of Islam? I'm begining to wonder :hmm:

02-03-06, 05:18 PM	#54
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	The western world should simply cut off travel in and out of muslim countries, quaranteen them, until they advance out of the middle ages.

02-03-06, 06:30 PM	#59
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I'm getting sick of hearing about Muslim extremists demanding that we change our laws, culture, and now even the basis for our entire society. And I know this is making me sound like a racist or bigot, but when they are actually crowding our streets chanting for a jihad against all of us for a couple of cartoons or "freedom of speech, go to hell" (which was a slogan on several signs I noticed) I think we really do have reason to worry. They really shouldn't hope for a "clash of civilizations" (as some Muslim's were screaming for one enthusiastically tonight on the news) - if there was a total all-out war between them and the West, I doubt they would stand much chance in the long run. But what concernes me is that Western governments will band over backwards to accomodate them in any way possible - until we are banned from doing anything which they deem to be unholy (meanwhile in their own countries, they will do nothing to accomodate anything we ask from them and will continue to harbour terrorists). They apparently have no fear of our nations now - they were able to roam the streets of France destroying and attacking whatever and whoever they could find (with a low number of arrests and I believe, moderate prison sentences to the handful that were caught). I don't even think we should be allowing huge scores of them to flee to our countries - I believe in multiculturalism and the promotion of divergent cultures but the majority of muslims appear to only call for the subjugation of other cultures and refuse to accept any belief that does not conform perfectly to their own. Maybe there are a few moderates asking for a more restrained response, but I don't see any. The huge crowds of screaming fanatics calling for the spilling of our blood, the destruction of our civilized societies, and the erasing of every democratic principle which we have worked hard to establish must be drowning them out. I just have to get that off my chest - I am really worried about what the future holds for Western countries against such an unruly mob of crazed fanatics. I am not a racist though - this is about extremist religion and the overturning of liberal democracy to me. I hope such a rant does not violate SubSim's policies in any way - if so I will delete it and not post another.