Exhaust Smoke 1.2 - Page 2

Fangschuss · 02-02-06, 07:16 AM

Updated version online

please see first post for more details

Thanks

greetings

Fangschuss · 02-02-06, 07:28 AM

mmh :hmm:

I have black smoke !? Using the "AIL SMOKE MOD" here the link

http://www.ailantd.com/SHIIIMODS/

Redwine · 02-02-06, 09:21 AM

May be i am wrong...but i think so it is normal the ships smokes on docks.

The boilers must to maintained at working pressure, not giving steam to the turbine to move proppeller, but to have electricity and conditioned air in cold weather.

Plus at war, i soupose they must to be "ready to scape" or near to this condition, if they become under attack, they must to be ready to move the ships.......

I am wrong ? :hmm:

Or they are completelly "cold boilers" at docks ?

HanSolo78 · 02-02-06, 09:26 AM

@ Redwine

That could be.. but unfortunately it costs some performance and the smoke is still too much, I think!

Only a slight improvement:

There have to be some parameters which belong to the docked ships!

Fangschuss · 02-02-06, 10:02 AM

I thing i have found my error with the "Docked Ships" , let me run a few test more

Will be back soon

GlobalExplorer · 02-02-06, 10:22 AM

Hope you succeed as I wonna use this mod.

Fangschuss · 02-02-06, 10:54 AM

Version 1.2 is up

Without Exhaust smoke for docked ships

see first post again

Cheers

Redwine · 02-02-06, 11:02 AM

Master !!!

Woof1701 · 02-02-06, 12:04 PM

Great work!

Thanks

How about doing a combined Earshot 1.1/Depth Charge FX/Exhaust Smoke 1.2 Mod in combination with Iambecomelife's Enhanced Smoke Mod. Since they all use the same file, it may be a cool compilation, at least until they're finished with the oil slick mod

The Avon Lady · 02-02-06, 12:14 PM

I'm looking through numerous pics on the web of destoryers and nothing comes near the amount of smoke in this mod. Examples:

See many more pics in this folder.

GlobalExplorer · 02-02-06, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

I'm looking through numerous pics on the web of destoryers and nothing comes near the amount of smoke in this mod.

Doesn't this have to do with the type of propulsion, i.e. steam / oil turbine / electro ??

GT182 · 02-02-06, 12:37 PM

Fangschuss, first off, great work.

I did run a single mission and saw the dark heavy smoke from a destroyed ship. Looked very nice. The approaching ships in the distance do show better at over 8,000 meters. But not too realistic. They wanted to hide just as much as the subs.

And the same with the fix for docked ships, your screenshot looks nice. I'll give the fix a try soon.

Second....Just starting a patrol form Lorient. The smoke coming from ships docked was darker but not all that bad to me. It just made them look like they were getting ready to get underway. The shipping leaving port for the open sea didn't show the dark heavy smoke all the time. It was only when the view was switched from inside the sub to the conn that it was dark and heavy. But after watching for a minute or two it changed to white smoke and not as dense at first seen. At least on my computer it kind of looked like the pictures AVL posted. I'm not using one of the newest high end graphics cards. Still have the GF 5600Ultra 256mb card installed.

What I do remember from movies and what my father told me (he was Radarman on a DE in the Pacific during WWII), Destroyers and DEs would blanket the sea with dark heavy smoke to protect the fleet they were sailing with when attacked, either by air or subs. This is something that would be nice in SHIII.

Redwine · 02-02-06, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

I'm looking through numerous pics on the web of destoryers and nothing comes near the amount of smoke in this mod.

I read in some book, i dont remember well if from Kap. Johaness Spiess or Otto Krestchmer..... about the start of use of non smoking fuel or burning oil.

But for that i know, this was not abailable in high quantities enough for all ships on the war, and was never used into cargo ship due to costs.

Any way i remember pictures where Dds are launching enormus smoke stacks, not for coverage......

If have time i will take a look to my books.

Redwine · 02-02-06, 01:36 PM

Was the Kap. Johaness Spiess, in his book "The submarine war....with no restrictions" Edition from Toba Editorial, printed in graphic works Lumen at 1956.

Page 18 :

- he tells, at 9 of may of 1915, they spot a convoy, but was detected a presence of a British airship (some kind of british Zepelling) and was enforced so dive, finally he surface the ship and attack a ship, was the norwewian vapor "San Telmo", attack was unsicessful and quickly they was attacked by a DD, and experienced the first attack with depth charges in their life, for he and his crew.

they submerged and scape, and sail all the night, at later day at afternoon he spoted smoke stacks from a convoy, and mast in cross corresponding to the escort DDs.

He tells they do not produce smoke because those DDs was using a non smoking fuel called "mazout".

Redwine · 02-02-06, 04:21 PM

Finally i was able to test it, works fine for me !!

02-02-06, 07:16 AM	#16
Fangschuss Sparky Join Date: May 2005 Location: Franken Posts: 156 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Updated version online please see first post for more details Thanks greetings __________________ www.forces-of-war.biz

02-02-06, 07:28 AM	#17
Fangschuss Sparky Join Date: May 2005 Location: Franken Posts: 156 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	mmh :hmm: I have black smoke !? Using the "AIL SMOKE MOD" here the link http://www.ailantd.com/SHIIIMODS/ __________________ www.forces-of-war.biz

02-02-06, 09:21 AM	#18
Redwine Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Martin de los Andes, Neuquen, , Argentina. Posts: 1,962 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	May be i am wrong...but i think so it is normal the ships smokes on docks. The boilers must to maintained at working pressure, not giving steam to the turbine to move proppeller, but to have electricity and conditioned air in cold weather. Plus at war, i soupose they must to be "ready to scape" or near to this condition, if they become under attack, they must to be ready to move the ships....... I am wrong ? :hmm: Or they are completelly "cold boilers" at docks ? __________________ . "SH III and SH IV Mods" "Manual TDC Tutorial" "SH2 Downloads Selection"

02-02-06, 09:26 AM	#19
HanSolo78 Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 3	@ Redwine That could be.. but unfortunately it costs some performance and the smoke is still too much, I think! Only a slight improvement: There have to be some parameters which belong to the docked ships! __________________

02-02-06, 10:02 AM	#20
Fangschuss Sparky Join Date: May 2005 Location: Franken Posts: 156 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	I thing i have found my error with the "Docked Ships" , let me run a few test more Will be back soon __________________ www.forces-of-war.biz

02-02-06, 10:22 AM	#21
GlobalExplorer Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,015 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	Hope you succeed as I wonna use this mod. __________________

02-02-06, 10:54 AM	#22
Fangschuss Sparky Join Date: May 2005 Location: Franken Posts: 156 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Version 1.2 is up Without Exhaust smoke for docked ships see first post again Cheers __________________ www.forces-of-war.biz

02-02-06, 11:02 AM	#23
Redwine Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Martin de los Andes, Neuquen, , Argentina. Posts: 1,962 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Master !!! __________________ . "SH III and SH IV Mods" "Manual TDC Tutorial" "SH2 Downloads Selection"

02-02-06, 12:04 PM	#24
Woof1701 Commodore Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Munich, Germany, Home of U-96 Posts: 633 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Great work! Thanks How about doing a combined Earshot 1.1/Depth Charge FX/Exhaust Smoke 1.2 Mod in combination with Iambecomelife's Enhanced Smoke Mod. Since they all use the same file, it may be a cool compilation, at least until they're finished with the oil slick mod

02-02-06, 12:14 PM	#25
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I'm looking through numerous pics on the web of destoryers and nothing comes near the amount of smoke in this mod. Examples: See many more pics in this folder. __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

02-02-06, 12:37 PM	#27
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	Fangschuss, first off, great work. I did run a single mission and saw the dark heavy smoke from a destroyed ship. Looked very nice. The approaching ships in the distance do show better at over 8,000 meters. But not too realistic. They wanted to hide just as much as the subs. And the same with the fix for docked ships, your screenshot looks nice. I'll give the fix a try soon. Second....Just starting a patrol form Lorient. The smoke coming from ships docked was darker but not all that bad to me. It just made them look like they were getting ready to get underway. The shipping leaving port for the open sea didn't show the dark heavy smoke all the time. It was only when the view was switched from inside the sub to the conn that it was dark and heavy. But after watching for a minute or two it changed to white smoke and not as dense at first seen. At least on my computer it kind of looked like the pictures AVL posted. I'm not using one of the newest high end graphics cards. Still have the GF 5600Ultra 256mb card installed. What I do remember from movies and what my father told me (he was Radarman on a DE in the Pacific during WWII), Destroyers and DEs would blanket the sea with dark heavy smoke to protect the fleet they were sailing with when attacked, either by air or subs. This is something that would be nice in SHIII. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

02-02-06, 01:36 PM	#29
Redwine Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Martin de los Andes, Neuquen, , Argentina. Posts: 1,962 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Was the Kap. Johaness Spiess, in his book "The submarine war....with no restrictions" Edition from Toba Editorial, printed in graphic works Lumen at 1956. Page 18 : - he tells, at 9 of may of 1915, they spot a convoy, but was detected a presence of a British airship (some kind of british Zepelling) and was enforced so dive, finally he surface the ship and attack a ship, was the norwewian vapor "San Telmo", attack was unsicessful and quickly they was attacked by a DD, and experienced the first attack with depth charges in their life, for he and his crew. they submerged and scape, and sail all the night, at later day at afternoon he spoted smoke stacks from a convoy, and mast in cross corresponding to the escort DDs. He tells they do not produce smoke because those DDs was using a non smoking fuel called "mazout". __________________ . "SH III and SH IV Mods" "Manual TDC Tutorial" "SH2 Downloads Selection"

02-02-06, 04:21 PM	#30
Redwine Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Martin de los Andes, Neuquen, , Argentina. Posts: 1,962 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Finally i was able to test it, works fine for me !! __________________ . "SH III and SH IV Mods" "Manual TDC Tutorial" "SH2 Downloads Selection"