Ahmadinejad's cameraman defects

TLAM Strike · 10-01-12, 01:53 PM

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A cameraman who accompanied Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to New York for the U.N. General Assembly has applied for asylum in the United States, his attorney said Monday.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/01/world/...man/index.html

I hope everything turns out well for him and I hope his family got out somehow as well.

Gerald · 10-01-12, 01:56 PM

Always in these kinds of regimes, it is risky to make defection considering the possible consequences for his family.

TLAM Strike · 10-01-12, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor

Always in these kinds of regimes, it is risky to make defection considering the possible consequences for his family.

Yea the consequences in Iran involve a length of rope and a piece of construction equipment in town square. (I guess they are saving the bullets for the Israelis, CENTCOM and the 5th Fleet.)

Of course to them we are the ones who are evil.

When you see a person hanging from a rope whose only crime was blogging, or being gay, or drinking a damn beer you realize that such a society doesn't deserve to inhabit the same planet as us.

Stealhead · 10-01-12, 02:17 PM

He must have known about this trip several months in advance and likely arranged things so that his family or at least immediate family where safe maybe they took a trip some place at the same time I'm sure that he thought of it.You don't just simply up and defect all of a sudden he probably had this planned out for some time.Persians tend to have very strong family ties.If he was allowed to go on this trip to New York then he was considered trust worthy and probably he and his family could travel outside of Iran.I bet his wife and kids took a trip some place at the last minute.

Even a place like Turkey is safer than Iran for the time being.You dont want to end up like that 15 year old girl that got shoot in the heart I'd love to show that triggerman my marksmanship only I would not shoot him in the heart but in the spleen so he takes a long long time to bleed out and make sure that his body lays out all night for the dogs..Still to hit someone in the heart you know what your shooting at so he knew that she just a bystander and shoot her anyway.

Gerald · 10-01-12, 02:21 PM

At best, a planned defection, so that the family were able to leave the country before his defection became public, which would be a significantly better outcome...

Stealhead · 10-01-12, 02:36 PM

They could always go to a Western European embassy and request asylum right in Iran that is what they usually do he did his in New York specifically so that the entire world knows about it.They just had it timed out so that no one got suspicious either way.They could go to the Swedish Embassy.

TLAM Strike · 10-01-12, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

They could always go to a Western European embassy and request asylum right in Iran that is what they usually do he did his in New York specifically so that the entire world knows about it.They just had it timed out so that no one got suspicious either way.

Still would have the problem of getting out of the country. The Iranians don't really care much about the sanctity of foreign embassies. Plus getting from the embassy to the airport would be difficult considering how much IRGC is around.

I would think they either drove to Baku or hopped on the ferry to Dubai.

Gerald · 10-01-12, 02:44 PM

It's true, many people have already done that ... but not all, are allow to come here over to the border like that.

Stealhead · 10-01-12, 02:53 PM

Thats true any old Joe they would not care as much but a guy like that they might just a slight bit irritated to say the least.A little road trip seems less suspicious.

This makes me think of the Iraqi Air Force pilot that flew the Mig-21 to Israel back in the 60's and they had pre arranged to have something like 25 family members leave Iraq I think that was even part of the deal that the pilot insisted on.Captain Munir Redfa was the guys name that was a Mossad operation they seem pretty good at convincing people as recent events in Iran seem to prove you'd need local nationals to pull that stuff off money is very convincing though they are likely some what in agreement and the money boosts it.

Gerald · 10-01-12, 02:57 PM

Right,the Mosad case.

Stealhead · 10-01-12, 03:01 PM

Which one

Gerald · 10-01-12, 03:05 PM

I meant what occurred in 1966,

Jimbuna · 10-01-12, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Still would have the problem of getting out of the country. The Iranians don't really care much about the sanctity of foreign embassies. Plus getting from the embassy to the airport would be difficult considering how much IRGC is around.

I would think they either drove to Baku or hopped on the ferry to Dubai.

Probably the latter....good luck is all I can say.

Alex · 10-01-12, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/01/world/...man/index.html

I hope everything turns out well for him and I hope his family got out somehow as well.

Putrid occidental propaganda to be smelled for miles around, always the same scenario and still, quite a few just swallow it all like little obedient children, believing in their flag and authority for acting like no other country on foreign soil, just as others believe in God. Did you even think about getting to know what Ahmadinejad did for his countrymen on the social and economical levels, or the way the female condition is handled in this country, or even what he did for the youth when he was Tehran's mayor years ago ? Just stop reading the Times, man, or you'll end up crazy.

Don't worry. Soon the oh so rightful Occidental news will let you know about gas chambers built under Mahmoud's regime. Probably right after he'll commit suicide with his wife in some casbah-like bunker.

Jimbuna · 10-01-12, 04:22 PM

What's all that about Alex?

10-01-12, 01:56 PM	#2
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Always in these kinds of regimes, it is risky to make defection considering the possible consequences for his family. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

10-01-12, 02:17 PM	#4
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	He must have known about this trip several months in advance and likely arranged things so that his family or at least immediate family where safe maybe they took a trip some place at the same time I'm sure that he thought of it.You don't just simply up and defect all of a sudden he probably had this planned out for some time.Persians tend to have very strong family ties.If he was allowed to go on this trip to New York then he was considered trust worthy and probably he and his family could travel outside of Iran.I bet his wife and kids took a trip some place at the last minute. Even a place like Turkey is safer than Iran for the time being.You dont want to end up like that 15 year old girl that got shoot in the heart I'd love to show that triggerman my marksmanship only I would not shoot him in the heart but in the spleen so he takes a long long time to bleed out and make sure that his body lays out all night for the dogs..Still to hit someone in the heart you know what your shooting at so he knew that she just a bystander and shoot her anyway. Last edited by Stealhead; 10-01-12 at 02:32 PM.

10-01-12, 02:21 PM	#5
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	At best, a planned defection, so that the family were able to leave the country before his defection became public, which would be a significantly better outcome... __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

10-01-12, 02:44 PM	#8
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	It's true, many people have already done that ... but not all, are allow to come here over to the border like that. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

10-01-12, 02:57 PM	#10
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Right,the Mosad case. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

10-01-12, 02:36 PM	#6
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	They could always go to a Western European embassy and request asylum right in Iran that is what they usually do he did his in New York specifically so that the entire world knows about it.They just had it timed out so that no one got suspicious either way.They could go to the Swedish Embassy.

10-01-12, 02:53 PM	#9
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Thats true any old Joe they would not care as much but a guy like that they might just a slight bit irritated to say the least.A little road trip seems less suspicious. This makes me think of the Iraqi Air Force pilot that flew the Mig-21 to Israel back in the 60's and they had pre arranged to have something like 25 family members leave Iraq I think that was even part of the deal that the pilot insisted on.Captain Munir Redfa was the guys name that was a Mossad operation they seem pretty good at convincing people as recent events in Iran seem to prove you'd need local nationals to pull that stuff off money is very convincing though they are likely some what in agreement and the money boosts it.

10-01-12, 03:01 PM	#11
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Which one

10-01-12, 03:05 PM	#12
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	I meant what occurred in 1966, __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

10-01-12, 04:22 PM	#15
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,539 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	What's all that about Alex? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!