Homosexual found guilty on 45 out of 48 counts!

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

I think it's the other way around, I think sickle-cell anemia is a genetic disorder isn't it?

Öh... yes... The other way around.

[mapuc]

You are not a real man if you haven't had sex with both genders.

So I guess it's about time I find myself a woman

Markus

[NeonSamurai]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Wow, I suppose its all about "ME ME ME"
So its nazi "christian", I wonder what that refers to?
Perhaps the later "christian identity" is more specific if the other reference was just too hard to understand or were not familiar with the OPs stated "christian" beliefs

Would it be permissable to link to a few sermons by the good nazi "christian" pastors from "christian identity" to make the point crystal clear to anyone that cannot tell the difference between Christians and "christians"?
I have to ask as even though ther OP has in the past put up some of their wonderful hate filled bigoted nazi bile I think linking to those "christians" site would be breaching the rules about posting racist crap.

If you explain exactly why you are posting them, warn people what the content of the videos is, and they do not violate any other rules (nudity, graphic violence, etc), I do not object to you posting them. Though I would prefer if possible not to direct link to the hate sites themselves (you can often find these videos on anti hate sites too). We don't need them coming here.

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

If this is in response to the post you reported... we looked at it and judged that it was aimed directly against the kind of 'christian' (note the irony 'quotes') the OP claims to be (ie the kind that likes to wave placards claiming that "god hates fags!" and other rubbish), and was not hate speech.

As a broad minded supporter of free speech (even of the kind that I find utterly revolting, like holocaust denial/revisionism) it takes a lot for me to consider a post hate speech. Like calling a group nothing but degenerate scum that should be eradicated of the face of the earth, or the use of pejorative slurs would qualify. If anyone crosses that kind of line when it comes to the groups you or anyone else belong to, then I will be more then happy to nail them to the wall for it.

I don't censor or censure you for what you say, just as I don't for those that disagree or counter you, regardless of what side I may actually be on. If you bring your cherished personal beliefs up to the table, it is perfectly fair to expect to have them disputed, even dragged through the mud, and up to you to defend them if you can (and if you can't then perhaps those views should be reevaluated).

As an academic, I really do not see why this is such a hard concept to understand. If you don't want to play, leave your ball at home.

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

You really want to do this publically? Because we can, you know.

Someone with a documentable history of hostility to those of faith continues that pattern (regardless of whether its "justified" on any single occasion or not) - along with hurling a personal insult regarding someone's sexuality in their following post (expressly forbidden in the TOS) and you guys choose to turn a blind eye - thats up to you. I guess some things are not hate speech when the "target" is equally hateful and despicable. I guess it all depends on the "kind" of group that its targetted at. So anyone who is an "identity christian" is a target - regardless. But because they are as a group wrong, hateful and yes - despicable - that makes such comments perfectly ok. The KKK is pretty despicable too - so I guess we can say anything we want about that group as well? Where do you draw the line on what "group" its acceptable to make blanket, generalized hateful comments about? Some people see Jews as despicable. That's one of the ways the Holocaust was allowed to happen.

I don't agree with "identity christians". But I still see a major double standard.

You guys call em like you see em.

So do I. It is what it is. I don't see a need to "do" anythng - either publicly or privately. If you do - then you know how to PM me - or take action publicly as you see fit.

Someone with a documentable history of hostility to those of faith continues that pattern

The only "hostility" is the writings of those of "faith", especially those that make ridiculous claims about the scripture they claim to follow.
There is no hostility at all to people of faith or to people of no faith.

along with hurling a personal insult regarding someone's sexuality in their following post

It addresses the issue.
It is widely held that the more someone screams about queens the greater the chance is that they are rather partial themselves.
Would you like a big list of very vocal homophobes who turned out to be taking deliveries by the back door?

I guess some things are not hate speech when the "target" is equally hateful and despicable.

Well done, almost correct.
Calling a nazi a nazi isn't hate speech, calling a Klansman a racist "christian" isn't hate speech, calling a black supremacist a dumb bigot isn't hate speech, it is addressing their views.

The KKK is pretty despicable too - so I guess we can say anything we want about that group as well?

You can call them racist scum, extreme right wing or bigots, but I don't think you can call them liberals

Where do you draw the line on what "group" its acceptable to make blanket, generalized hateful comments about?

That is simple, a statement about "christians" isn't a generalised statement about Christians any more than a statement about white supremacists is a generlised statement about "white" people.

I don't agree with "identity christians".

Good, becuase I wouldn't want you to follow the trail from NC to the great northwest homeland for "white" "christian" aryan folk based on the principles of the founding fathers and true to the US constitution free of "jews, ******s, race traitors and other degenerates"........call em like you see em.

@Mods. If any words of that last neo nazi hate speech is deemed unnaceptable despite the context please censor them.

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

Gee SS, your lack of bible understanding is stunning. I think you should read
the bible - at least once.

ZeeWolf

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Nor do you.


If you believed in the God of the Bible you wouldn't be political, you wouldn't be militaristic and you wouln't be so self-righteous or so filled with hate. You would spend your time preaching the Gospel of Christ rather than the gospel of Naziism, and you would be quick to forgive, whereas you are only quick to condemn. Your actions are those of one who hates, whereas the Bible teaches that you should be one who loves.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

And of course you do everything you can to pervert things to your own ends. The point of Christ's teaching is that all sins can be forgiven. I don't like the act any more than you do, believe it or not, but your answer is to hate and kill anything you find immoral. You live in hate, and that perverts your thinking, even your soul. You try to use God to justify your hate, and that is the exact opposite of everything Jesus taught.

You can hate all you want to, but to say God wants you to is a greater sin than the one you condemn. You are the exact opposite of everything Christianity stands for.

I'm not even a believer anymore, but even I can see how twisted your so-called philosophy is.

Wow! Well said.

[AVGWarhawk]

I have seen threads take a turn. This one is making figure eights.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

I guess it all depends on the "kind" of group that its targetted at. So anyone who is an "identity christian" is a target - regardless. But because they are as a group wrong, hateful and yes - despicable - that makes such comments perfectly ok. The KKK is pretty despicable too - so I guess we can say anything we want about that group as well? Where do you draw the line on what "group" its acceptable to make blanket, generalized hateful comments about? Some people see Jews as despicable. That's one of the ways the Holocaust was allowed to happen.

The terrible irony is that you have now described the OP, except that you left out blacks, Native Americans and Catholics. It would appear that you would be too busy trying to silence a forum rival to see that.

[HunterICX]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I have seen threads take a turn. This one is making figure eights.

Just another day in the GT

HunterICX

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

The terrible irony is that you have now described the OP, except that you left out blacks, Native Americans and Catholics. It would appear that you would be too busy trying to silence a forum rival to see that.

I have no issue with you brigging the OP. I pointed out way earlier in this thread that I found his tone and message way off base. I don't care who the person is - to say any group is worthy of "ripping the piss" because they are "sick puppies" is what it is. Last I read the rules - calling someone "ladyboy but not in a sexual way" - and then admitting that it was all about someone taking "deliveries in the back" was a violation as well. But you guys say its not. So be it.

The fact your hung up on some supposed rivalry between myself and the poster instead of on the content of the posts just goes to show how much of a double standard you are using.

Don't think so? Fair enough. Guess we will see.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

I have no issue with you brigging the OP. I pointed out way earlier in this thread that I found his tone and message way off base. I don't care who the person is - to say any group is worthy of "ripping the piss" because they are "sick puppies" is what it is. Last I read the rules - calling someone "ladyboy but not in a sexual way" - and then admitting that it was all about someone taking "deliveries in the back" was a violation as well.

The fact your hung up on some supposed rivalry between myself and the poster instead of on the content of the posts just goes to show how much of a double standard you are using.

Don't think so? Fair enough. Guess we will see.

Right. Your posts about that poster are not about that poster. The fact that you have come and done this publically is also not about this poster. The fact that you are attempting to equate ten pages of concentrated hate speech thinly masked with religious piety to a handful of offhand comments means that I am using a double standard. Okay. I've had worse said about me. Par for the course.

The simple fact is that certain individuals from every 'group' on SubSim see themselves as a minority, and an oppressed one at that. The political left thinks that they are victims of double standards. So does the political right, the atheists and the Christians. The fact that everybody feels that way is a signal to me that we're doing a good job. What irks me is when individuals try to nitpick posts in an effort to have moderators silence the opposition. But hey, dealing with that is part of the job too.

Don't think so? That's okay. I won't reciprocate the kind of vague threatening speech in your last sentence. That just wouldn't be cool. Peace to you, bro. I still think you're a good guy.

EDIT: Also, you are looking for 'you're', not 'your'.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I have seen threads take a turn. This one is making figure eights.

A Circular Run?

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Muslims, Jews, Athiests, Black Panthers, KKK members and "identity christians" (along with other types), plus a lot more groups - all worthy of "ripping a piss" just because they are sick puppies.
Don't like it? Guess your just all a bunch of ladyboys taking deliveries in the back.

geez , you sure you didnt forget someone in there?

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Webster

geez , you sure you didnt forget someone in there?

Truthers, moon-landing deniers...


..
...
Oh yeah, and also leprechauns.

Muslims, Jews, Athiests, Black Panthers, KKK members and "identity christians" (along with other types), plus a lot more groups - all worthy of "ripping a piss" just because they are sick puppies.
Don't like it? Guess your just all a bunch of ladyboys taking deliveries in the back.

Classic
Can you get it more backwards?(no pun intended)

The fact your hung up on some supposed rivalry between myself and the poster

Supposed
On your part......
ME ME ME ME ME
your CAPS LOCK habit comes back into play and unfortunately emphasises you again well illustrating your seemingly rather blatent dishonsty on that score.

instead of on the content of the posts

Yet it appears they are dealing with the content of the posts, rather than what you think you want those posts to be saying.

You really should have thought first before you went off on one, a topic angle dealing with nazi "christians" isn't a good location to be trying to fight your imaginary war on the mythical anti Christians you think you see.

In other news a nice development on the crazy nazi "christian" front.
Apparently that twat from NC who is running the northwestern homeland for real white people is having a problem with some of the other Nazi loons.
In a startling revelation they are now accusing the crazy white supremacist Stormfront website of being part of a global jewish conspiracy to make the nazis look bad, it kinda makesthe OPs past suggestion that Subsim is a Jewish conspiracy pale in comparison
Nazis don't ya just love em...but not in a gay way