Bend it like... a Japanese airline pilot?

TLAM Strike · 06-24-12, 09:28 PM

ANA 767 pilot managed to bend his fuselage on landing

Gargamel · 06-24-12, 09:34 PM

Wonder what the final damage will be? Will that or the underlying structural damage decertify that plane?

Falkirion · 06-24-12, 09:46 PM

I read about this last week. The plane should be repairable but it'll need alot of time on the ground until its fit to fly again. I wonder if ANA will scrap it given the fact that they're retiring the 767s from their fleet anyway.

Stealhead · 06-24-12, 09:50 PM

Hard to say I know for a fact that several C-5 and at least 1 C-17 had some very rough landings some even had gear failures and after some time in the hanger they flew again.

One of my tech school instructors was a C-5 crew chief the people responsible for aircraft maintenance he saw a C-5 have an engine failure just after take off the pilots managed to turn the plane around and make an emergency landing they had to land at a higher than normal speed and it broke the nose gear and the plane skidded on its nose for some distance in addition to having touched down roughly.They removed the plane put it in a hanger inspected it fixed her up and she as far as I know still flies today.It all depends on how much and what kind of damage occurred some is repairable some is not or costs more than the plane is wroth.

My guess is that the 767 will get sold to some airline in Russia for cheap.My guess is that the pilot and co-pilot are out of a job unless that landing was unavoidable.

Reece · 06-24-12, 11:52 PM

Wow, not really very strong are they!!

If I take holidays I might consider a cruise on a good solid steel ship, like the Titanic!!

Stealhead · 06-25-12, 12:03 AM

Actually quite the opposite many air frames large ones in particular are immensely strong you would be surprised the stress that many air frames can withstand and not fall apart(which is the goal not to fall apart)That the 767 did not break up shows that it is indeed strong.

Also some recent studies on the Titanics hull indicate that it too was actually quite strong it stayed afloat for quite some time with much strain on its hull and it did not turn over which is quite common even with modern ships.She held up well given the amount of water that she took on personally I think that it was in certain groups interest to blame the ship and not the stupidity of not having enough life boats and of sailing in iceberg laden waters that is asking for trouble no matter how well the ship is designed and made.

Falkirion · 06-25-12, 01:18 AM

Good thing the wings don't snap off. The 777 wing test got to 154% of its designed load limit before it snapped. Or in a better indication of how strong they're built to be, that's about 24 feet worth of deflection.

There was a good discussion of this incident over on airliners.net in their forums about it. I know I skimmed it during my lunch break at work. See here
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/5493674/

Herr-Berbunch · 06-25-12, 06:35 AM

Lolwaffle - Japanese chapter.

Any landing you (and your passengers) can walk away from . . .

Tchocky · 06-26-12, 03:24 PM

Reminds me of one of the oldest of old flyer jokes

One day the pilot of a Cherokee was told by the tower to hold short of the active runway while a DC-8 landed. The DC-8 landed, rolled out, turned around, and taxied back past the Cherokee. Some quick-witted comedian in the DC-8 crew got on the radio and said, "What a cute little plane. Did you make it all by yourself?" The Cherokee pilot, not about to let the insult go by, replied "I made it out of DC-8 parts. Another landing like yours and I'll have enough parts for another one."

Oberon · 06-26-12, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Lolwaffle - Japanese chapter.

Any landing you (and your passengers) can walk away from . . .

Ah yes, Baka-Onigiri.

krashkart · 06-26-12, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

Wow, not really very strong are they!!

If I take holidays I might consider a cruise on a good solid steel ship, like the Titanic!!

May I recommend a private cruise on my personal yacht?

It'll get you there. Just remember to bring your swimming trunks. Dirt cheap fun for the whole family!

Skybird · 06-26-12, 05:07 PM

I just tried to imagine how that steelbridge looked like after that pilot did a bungee-jump from it.

06-24-12, 09:28 PM	#1
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Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Wonder what the final damage will be? Will that or the underlying structural damage decertify that plane? __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

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Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Lolwaffle - Japanese chapter. Any landing you (and your passengers) can walk away from . . . __________________

06-26-12, 03:24 PM	#9
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Reminds me of one of the oldest of old flyer jokes One day the pilot of a Cherokee was told by the tower to hold short of the active runway while a DC-8 landed. The DC-8 landed, rolled out, turned around, and taxied back past the Cherokee. Some quick-witted comedian in the DC-8 crew got on the radio and said, "What a cute little plane. Did you make it all by yourself?" The Cherokee pilot, not about to let the insult go by, replied "I made it out of DC-8 parts. Another landing like yours and I'll have enough parts for another one." __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

06-24-12, 09:46 PM	#3
Falkirion Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Melbourne, AUS Posts: 1,043 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	I read about this last week. The plane should be repairable but it'll need alot of time on the ground until its fit to fly again. I wonder if ANA will scrap it given the fact that they're retiring the 767s from their fleet anyway.

06-24-12, 09:50 PM	#4
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Hard to say I know for a fact that several C-5 and at least 1 C-17 had some very rough landings some even had gear failures and after some time in the hanger they flew again. One of my tech school instructors was a C-5 crew chief the people responsible for aircraft maintenance he saw a C-5 have an engine failure just after take off the pilots managed to turn the plane around and make an emergency landing they had to land at a higher than normal speed and it broke the nose gear and the plane skidded on its nose for some distance in addition to having touched down roughly.They removed the plane put it in a hanger inspected it fixed her up and she as far as I know still flies today.It all depends on how much and what kind of damage occurred some is repairable some is not or costs more than the plane is wroth. My guess is that the 767 will get sold to some airline in Russia for cheap.My guess is that the pilot and co-pilot are out of a job unless that landing was unavoidable.

06-25-12, 12:03 AM	#6
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Actually quite the opposite many air frames large ones in particular are immensely strong you would be surprised the stress that many air frames can withstand and not fall apart(which is the goal not to fall apart)That the 767 did not break up shows that it is indeed strong. Also some recent studies on the Titanics hull indicate that it too was actually quite strong it stayed afloat for quite some time with much strain on its hull and it did not turn over which is quite common even with modern ships.She held up well given the amount of water that she took on personally I think that it was in certain groups interest to blame the ship and not the stupidity of not having enough life boats and of sailing in iceberg laden waters that is asking for trouble no matter how well the ship is designed and made.

06-25-12, 01:18 AM	#7
Falkirion Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Melbourne, AUS Posts: 1,043 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Good thing the wings don't snap off. The 777 wing test got to 154% of its designed load limit before it snapped. Or in a better indication of how strong they're built to be, that's about 24 feet worth of deflection. There was a good discussion of this incident over on airliners.net in their forums about it. I know I skimmed it during my lunch break at work. See here http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/5493674/

06-26-12, 05:07 PM	#12
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,719 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I just tried to imagine how that steelbridge looked like after that pilot did a bungee-jump from it. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.