The Bug Out Bag.

[nikimcbee]

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Geez, youd be amazed at the amount of joking we do about this. I seriously wonder how all this doomsday crap started. Mayan calander? Too many zombie apocolypse movies? *shrug*

I believe you. I have a cousin who's into this stuff (I think). I was trapped in the car with him for 2 hours and I heard all about how he' prepared, because he makes his own gunpowder. He's really into hunting and guns-n-stuff. I like guns, but not that much.

Speaking of the show, I thought the guy that built the bunker for a nuclear attack was kinda funny. Sure, the bunker was cool, but you gotta get there and if there was a ballistic nuclear attack, how much warning would you have to get there? ~10 minutes?

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

. Hilarious show. Wife and I watch it for laughs. What's more hilarious is a good number of these doomsday preppers are from Utah. At least one of which they had on that show is from Orem, which is where we currently live. We now call her "The crazy orem lady".

Yup, after watching several episodes of this show, the wife and I have decided that we are going to start doomsday prepping for the incoming idiocracy.

Did you see the one with the trucker preper?I cant believe that guy was serious planning to still drive a semi around after "the end" seriously where are you going to find the diesel to fuel the truck those things only get around 12~14 MPG.

I think Utah has a lot of preppers because it is part of the Mormon beliefs as I understand of course they also wear special underwear.

I think for many they do the prepping make themselves feel in control of something that they can not control the bug out bag and such its an adult version of a blankie to some extent.

Is the Orem Lady that fat one the one that said something about being the only person that will have 100 pounds to loose?

Seems like people are always thinking that the world is going to end at the turn of centuries I heard that people also thought the end was near from the 1880s into the early 20th century.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Did you see the one with the trucker preper?I cant believe that guy was serious planning to still drive a semi around after "the end" seriously where are you going to find the diesel to fuel the truck those things only get around 12~14 MPG.

Oh, there will be plenty of fuel around. The problem is that once the powergrid fails after around 72 hours without human intervention, there will be no way to get to it.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Oh, there will be plenty of fuel around. The problem is that once the powergrid fails after around 72 hours without human intervention, there will be no way to get to it.

I was taking into consideration the fact that if a zombie unicorn invasion took a few weeks to fully develop or even a real event such as a hurricane that is known of in advance everyone will run and buy fuel then so in reality most fuel would be gone pretty fast.It happens all the time in any Hurricane state.Most of a nations fuel supply is stored at special facilities in the tanks that you have at your typical gas station they only last a few days maybe a week on average before a tanker needs to come and fill them and that is from regular supply and demand.

You can get the fuel out of any storage tank easily with a siphon or use a hand crank powered pump you have to think outside the box when the usual devices and infrastructure have failed.Actually people get arrested for doing this all time stealing fuel from station storage tanks that is.

[mookiemookie]

All this talk about the apocalypse...

Time to reinstall!

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

All this talk about the apocalypse...

Time to reinstall!

One of my favorites the entire series that is one of the few games that manages to stay on my hard drive.

[yubba]

All this talk about making the people move closer to the cities, or into them, I think I figured it out." Do tell us yubba, how would they make the masses move closer to the cities", well I believe, they would cut the power, under the guise, that the grid can't support the rural areas under the new epa regulations . So how many coal fire electric plants are going to shut down this summer.??? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1234611.html that says alot will be closed. Maybe, I was not looking at this right, maybe the plan should be stay put, and not give up any ground, but sooner or later I'll have to make a move.

[yubba]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I'd get out of Florida, the gators and pythons will get you.{that's livestock}
Have you been watching any of those survivalist shows on Nat Geo? {No}
Seems like a lot of stuff for one bag. I kinda like the idea of the bow, but I think it would be cumbersome to carry with all of your other stuff. I'd definately keep the .45 though.{ got two like to shoot with both hands}

How far would you bug out? {don't know yet got a daugther in texas another here in florida with my grand daughter}

I'd get some basic medical training.{ what get off the meds, right}

If everybody was bugging out, I'd get a good mountain bike to carry stuff and avoid the traffic.

that's what a wheel barrow is for, until I can commandere a Pt boat, plus a wheel barrow turns into a comfortable lounge chair, with padding it makes a nice bed.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

All this talk about the apocalypse...

Time to reinstall!

Me too. I got spurs.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Me too. I got spurs.

Do they jingle jangle jingle?

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by yubba

that's what a wheel barrow is for, until I can commandere a Pt boat, plus a wheel barrow turns into a comfortable lounge chair, with padding it makes a nice bed.

By the way, what will you power the PT boat with?

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Oberon

By the way, what will you power the PT boat with?

Yeah, no buggin out til that's done!

[Penguin]

Meanwhile in Canada:
http://www.emergencyinfobc.gov.bc.ca...you-ready.html
(official website from the BC govenment)

Whatever desaster you think might happen (Zombiemayans, Canada invading or Santorium becoming President), it isn't bad to be prepared, at least for some days without outside help. Just remember the Kathrina experience.

Most people forget an important tool: information.
If you don't think that all electronics are fried, it would be sensible to carry a pocket reader (tablet, smartphone, kindle and the like, plus a solar charger and spare batteries)
You can store tons of infos on those, maps, books about edible plants, different shelter techniques, etc, etc,)

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I believe you.

Oh yeah, we were joking about it just yesterday. Hell we've been joking about it our entire time house hunting. "Look hun we can but our doomsday preps in this room!".

Speaking of the show, I thought the guy that built the bunker for a nuclear attack was kinda funny. Sure, the bunker was cool, but you gotta get there and if there was a ballistic nuclear attack, how much warning would you have to get there? ~10 minutes?

Yeah, my first thought was. "umm dude, the cold war's been over for years now". Nuclear bunker.. yeah cool, but from who is he expecting these ICBM's from is what i wanna know.

Oh and assuming you do have bunker, what are you gonna do? Put your life on hold, not go to work, and sit there and watch TV listening for the non existant air raid sirens? Odds are, with a 10 min window, national TV and radio would be lucky to get a broadcast out assuming they made one at all.

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Did you see the one with the trucker preper?I cant believe that guy was serious planning to still drive a semi around after "the end" seriously where are you going to find the diesel to fuel the truck those things only get around 12~14 MPG.

Yeah i thought that too. "How's he gonna feed that sucker?" And as hes talking about putting camo netting on his trailer i was thinking, "Dude, why not drop the god damn trailer and increase your mobility a little bit?"

I think Utah has a lot of preppers because it is part of the Mormon beliefs as I understand of course they also wear special underwear.

Yeah the whole doomsday thing was already engrained here. Most mormons have some emergency food storage in their basements. Here's a funny tidbit, while house hunting our real estate agent was telling us about this client she had that was a hardcore catholic, and how every house he looked at, he was cursing, "Damn mormon food storage!" every time he toured the basement in a house.

I think for many they do the prepping make themselves feel in control of something that they can not control the bug out bag and such its an adult version of a blankie to some extent.

I'm not sure what it is. I think its a combination of social quirks in our society. All this doomsday prepping it's like a combination of Mad Max, Red dawn and zombie apocolypse. I think many people who are unhappy with their jobs, economic and political situation actually WANT "the world" to end. Its my hypothesis that an end of world scenario represents TOTAL freedom to some people, and they crave that release from job, money, things they dislike, etc. It's like they think they'll have their guns, their complete independence, and have a good ole time. One could probably write an essay as to what's sparking this prepping fade.

Is the Orem Lady that fat one the one that said something about being the only person that will have 100 pounds to loose?

Yup, same one who calls the handgun she puts in a can of dehydrated peas as her "pea shooter". When we saw that episode we died laughing. The lead in to the interview with her was hilarious. Its like, "hey that neighborhood looks familar.. so do those mountains.. Hey that flag looks like the Macy's flag," then they show the lady and where she's from and we were, "you gotta be kidding me....." Nope.

Seems like people are always thinking that the world is going to end at the turn of centuries I heard that people also thought the end was near from the 1880s into the early 20th century.

For whatever reasons, i think they want it to end.

[Stealhead]

You are probably correct about some seeing such events as "true freedom" which is a bit silly when you think about it why not just move to remote Alaska or really any remote area of any state and just live more or less off the land you can go do that right now if you wanted to .

That little fact makes me think that for many it is really more of a fantasy maybe it will happen but they must not truly want to live that way because you can live an of the grid lifestyle without having the world end.

Most of these types I think they have limited actual experience "roughing it" or with survival skills such things take actual experience you don't just go read a Boy Scout manual and then buy the materials and think that will do if you have no actual muscle memory with knots or have never tried to catch and clean game or truly raise crops or livestock you ca not expect to do very well when suddenly you are doing it to survive.

My dad went through survival training in the military at one point they had to capture and kill a hare just with basic tools it was not very easy and then they had to skin and clean the things
one guy he had his hare all ready for cleaning or so he thought when he went to start skinning it the thing started crying in pain he had not killed it the guy had never killed a living thing before and was held aback by the event and one of the instructors yelled at him to finish the hare off or go hungry the point was when you have nothing you have to take what ou can get even if you do not like it.

These people seem to think that having some supplies and a some guns and bullets and they will survive anything when the most important tool/weapon is your brain.

The value of information is also key as was said earlier so radios are important with a short term disaster in particular long term you would need a HAM radio or know someone that dose a HAM would be very useful long term because you can talk to people hundreds even thousands of miles away very useful for finding out what is going on.

There is a way to protect electronics from getting fried as well a Faraday cage the military uses them supposedly you can make one though how well it would work is anyone's guess you will also find them at power plants and power generation stations.