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Old 03-23-12, 04:09 PM   #16
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Can I have access to the company's financial system first to make sure my pay for next year is secured?


I was thinking along those lines as well. If we want full, and I mean full disclosure, then let's have full disclosure.
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Old 03-23-12, 04:14 PM   #17
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Recently one of my former students posted this on his facebook wall:

"Sometimes I only reason I get up in the morning is to get stoned".

Now while I share the concerns of folks here about the constant erosion of privacy in modern society I can't really blame an employer for wanting to know these things.
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Old 03-23-12, 06:23 PM   #18
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Recently one of my former students posted this on his facebook wall:

"Sometimes I only reason I get up in the morning is to get stoned".

Now while I share the concerns of folks here about the constant erosion of privacy in modern society I can't really blame an employer for wanting to know these things.
How does one know that he is being serious or is his joking around.

Maybe he is making a reference to the stresses of daily life in a joking manner and means get stoned by someone (a stoning,stones thrown at him figuratively speaking).

He would have to have some more obvious 4:20 and have a picture of him with a spliff or a bag of weed in his profile for me to verify that he is a pot head and there are plenty of
dummies doing that.

Besides why do they need to gain passwords most people use 12345 anyway.
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Old 03-23-12, 06:37 PM   #19
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Besides why do they need to gain passwords most people use 12345 anyway.
Crap. Time to change my forum password.
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Old 03-23-12, 07:26 PM   #20
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He would have to have some more obvious 4:20 and have a picture of him with a spliff or a bag of weed in his profile for me to verify that he is a pot head and there are plenty of dummies doing that.
Well I think if you ever met this kid Stealhead it would be pretty obvious that he was being serious. I used to have to go wake him up after lunch each day because he'd be zonked out from partying all night. More than once the smell that rushes out when he opened the door brought me back to the 1970's!

Besides it's not so much the drug use, although that is unacceptable too it's the lack of discretion. The way an employer would see it is if he's stupid enough to post something like that online, open to all i might add - no friendship or password needed, then he's probably also stupid enough to say something like it in front of a customer.

These Communications industries send their employees into peoples homes, they work in hospitals and pharmacies and airports. Such talk, even if joking, could cause the company big headaches if the wrong person heard it. At very least it could mean lost accounts. Customers, especially commercial ones, have no problem dropping vendors because one of their employees said something stupid like that.
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Old 03-23-12, 08:32 PM   #21
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We had a discussion about this at work. It is becoming more common for potential employers to "google" prospective employees. As social networks become more popular, how soon do you think it will take before NOT having an internet presence can count against you?

Just like today if you ran across someone who did not have a phone (cell or land line) you might be a bit surprised. Or how about E-mail? I know I am a bit surprised when I meet people who have no E-mail accounts.

How soon will it take before people will just assume that you are hiding something if you don't have an overt Internet social network presence?

Could this happen within say 10 years?
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Old 03-23-12, 08:34 PM   #22
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How soon will it take before people will just assume that you are hiding something if you don't have an overt Internet social network presence?

Could this happen within say 10 years?
I'd say it's happening now. If I were interviewing someone under the age of 40 and they didn't have some form of social network account, I'd be suspicious.
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I'd say it's happening now. If I were interviewing someone under the age of 40 and they didn't have some form of social network account, I'd be suspicious.
Well, I'm screwed then.

Don't do the social networking stuff, nor have an interest in pursuing it.

Heck, I use my phone to TALK on, not text. It's like a lost art with my generation.
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We had a discussion about this at work. It is becoming more common for potential employers to "google" prospective employees. As social networks become more popular, how soon do you think it will take before NOT having an internet presence can count against you?

Just like today if you ran across someone who did not have a phone (cell or land line) you might be a bit surprised. Or how about E-mail? I know I am a bit surprised when I meet people who have no E-mail accounts.

How soon will it take before people will just assume that you are hiding something if you don't have an overt Internet social network presence?

Could this happen within say 10 years?
I would say it's already happening. Unless you are of a certain age claims of not having a facebook account is likely to be seen by an employer as trying to hide something.
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Old 03-23-12, 11:58 PM   #25
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Huh

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/23/te...ers/index.html

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(CNN) -- Facebook has weighed in on a practice by some businesses asking employees or job applicants for their passwords to the popular social-media site.
In a nutshell? Facebook says don't do it unless you want to get sued.

Rest at link.
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Old 03-24-12, 12:53 PM   #26
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I like FaceBook. It keeps me in touch with my kids, and with my actual friends (as opposed to network friends).

Give someone my password? I'll give them a word alright. Maybe some combinations of words.
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I'd give them an entire list of words in several languages.
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Old 03-24-12, 02:15 PM   #28
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No Facebook account here either, if I need to talk to my 3 kids or to the grandkids, emails work fine or I actually use a phone.

Since I'm over 60, am I excused for not having one?
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My wife had to sign a form at her job stating she would not talk bad about the company on social media.

I won't say the name, but will say they are a multinational corporation with interests in Europe, UK, and America.

She was appalled by it. I gave her the cynical George Orwell, "I told ya so", I usually give with stuff like this.

So if this guy gets his way, how can he regulate a corp. based in the Netherlands, or even worse China?

Big Corps will tell our government to go play with ourselves....And they will. No matter how much mock outrage.

This is election year bullcrap.
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