Can't seem to get upgraded to Gato, TMO2.5 - Page 3

gAiNiAc · 03-05-12, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aanker

Lets see if this works:

Test fix, I followed Ducimus recollection, modified two 2.5 Submarines with 2.2 patch data, and dragged Flotillas from 2.2.
As he mentioned Career Start, I got that from 2.0 because it wasn't in 2.2.

Hopefully it works. Install it on top of TMO 2.5.

Art

Ducimus wrote:

Hey Art, That's exactly what I did. with one exception, I changed the upgradeclass for "Gar" boats from 2 to 1 as well.

I did 3 patrols in an S class originating in Manila, was bumped up to a Sargo, on my 6th patrol I was upgraded to a Gato....seems the fix works....

aanker · 03-05-12, 11:59 AM

Glad to hear it works. He has quite a sophisticated mod... really a big change from when I saw it last.

Like he said, for the terrible T every sub has to be disabled except ...

Happy Hunting!

Art

Ducimus · 03-05-12, 01:06 PM

Sorry guys, ive been deliberatly avoiding anything mod related in the past week or so. I appreciate everyones efforts in this thread. Ill get caught up to speed after i've had a few more days away from this subject. That and i've been doing stuff in real life that kinda supercedes the virtual one.

edit:
As an aside, i don't expect anyone to ask my approval to publish any mods that are related to TMO 2.5. See the credits/permissions section in the PDF file for details. You really don't need to ask me.

gAiNiAc · 03-05-12, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Sorry guys,

It's all good............You're the one who knew the fix. We just followed instructions...........

Now, if someone would do TOWER upgrades for the donation Narwhal........

That would be awesome!!!!

hahaha

Quick ?

The "Master Electrician" ability....does that even exist? I've never seen a guy with that one.....

Sidekikd34 · 03-13-12, 04:48 PM

With no disrespect to aanker, the patch is a bit "quick and dirty", and I think I can make the Terrible T playable, if anyone is interested.
This involves turning off all the other sub classes and setting the second Pearl Harbor deployment to Midway, as I think the game can't handle 2 sets of availability dates on a port.

Does anyone want me to make this available?

aanker · 03-13-12, 05:58 PM

That's what Ducimus said, basically what you want to do. Also I think he said, "have at her"... lol :)

Thanks, and Happy Hunting!

Art

Ducimus · 03-14-12, 12:02 PM

One thing i was wondering is if the game would behave the same, or as intended, if the Tambor was TOTALLY removed from all flotillas. The reason i didn't do that, and just "post date" the tambor availablity out of play is because it would involve rewriting the entire flotilla file to be in sequence with the tambor missions removed, and i just didn't have the energy to do it. So i had an "AH HAH!" moment, and just dated the tambor out of play.

It could very well be the cause of the problem is that if the game sees missions available for a submarine type, it goes, "oh ok here you go!", even if thats not what you wanted.

So a good question again, is, if you were upgraded to the tambor, did your flotilla change? Or did you stay in your current flotilla?

I'm goin' down · 03-14-12, 01:18 PM

I just read this thread. There is only one solution. Ducimus, you are fired. I mean demoted. New Title/Rank: Secretary of the Navy.

Note: Secretary of the Navy was James Forestall's position during WW2, as that was his title when he signed an order awarding my father a medal for combat on Saipan.

Ducimus · 03-14-12, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I'm goin' down

I just read this thread. There is only one solution. Ducimus, you are fired.

DrBeast · 03-14-12, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

LMAO!!! Good to see you're still around!

aanker · 03-16-12, 05:51 PM

I think Sailor Steve is the boss in the Mods, but I'm pretty sure you can upload one to the Subsim mods and link to it from a post.

One thing is 1st get the number of bytes in size so the program can list it in KB or MB etc. (it does the math)

Unless someone does something really dumb it is kind of hard to get in trouble here. Usually people are very nice and also thankful you contributed.

Happy Hunting!

Art

Sidekikd34 · 03-16-12, 05:56 PM

Never mind about my patch idea. I found something weird that seems to point to Ducimus' idea about how the game chooses upgrades.

I started with a Gato in March 42, playing on my mod (which only has to do with weapons) over TMO 2.5, and after 5 highly successful patrols, I was offered a new boat. I was given a Balao in September 42, based at Midway.

The Balao cfg says it doesn't exist until 1/1/43, and Pearl Harbor and Midway get in 3/1/43 and 3/20/43, respectively. I think Ducimus may be on to something with the game only seeing that there are missions available at that flotilla for every class of boat, and doesn't check boat availability dates at that time. Kind of a head-scratcher, huh?

I think I'll try editing the flotillas.cfg and removing the missions from boats until their availability dates, and see what happens then. Could be key to the whole Tambor thing.

Horus3K · 04-01-12, 04:39 AM

I was driving a Gar from start of War, and i got a Tambor after 2 exceptional patrols with 75/85k tonnage each...well they are basically the same but numerically its a downgrade?

Dunno if this has anything to do with this issue, just to let you guys know

aanker · 04-01-12, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horus3K

I was driving a Gar from start of War, and i got a Tambor after 2 exceptional patrols with 75/85k tonnage each...well they are basically the same but numerically its a downgrade?

Dunno if this has anything to do with this issue, just to let you guys know

There's your problem, next time try sailing instead of driving. :)

Yes, moving into a TAMBOR from a GAR is a slight downgrade in boat classes but not much.

On a serious note, (this IS April 1st) are you using TMO 2.5? If you are, download the patch
"1_TMO_25_small_patch.rar" (25.9 KB) from:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...=3506&act=down

Enable that patch with the JSGME - on top of - TMO 2.5 unless there has been a more recent fix. I'd suggest just starting a new career with the patch in case there are hold out files with the wrong information in your Saved Games from before the patch.

Happy Hunting!

Horus3K · 04-03-12, 10:16 AM

Sorry for the driving :P...im no native english speaker^^

Yeah i use the small patch now with TMO 2.5, starting a sargo career, after 3rd patrol i got Gar...looking ok so far!

03-05-12, 11:59 AM	#32
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	Glad to hear it works. He has quite a sophisticated mod... really a big change from when I saw it last. Like he said, for the terrible T every sub has to be disabled except ... Happy Hunting! Art __________________ " Bless those who serve beneath the deep, Through lonely hours their vigil keep. May peace their mission ever be, Protect each one we ask of thee. Bless those at home who wait and pray, For their return by night and day."

03-13-12, 04:48 PM	#35
Sidekikd34 Part-time skipper Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: All over the Pacific... Posts: 27 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	A "better" patch? With no disrespect to aanker, the patch is a bit "quick and dirty", and I think I can make the Terrible T playable, if anyone is interested. This involves turning off all the other sub classes and setting the second Pearl Harbor deployment to Midway, as I think the game can't handle 2 sets of availability dates on a port. Does anyone want me to make this available? Last edited by Sidekikd34; 03-13-12 at 06:11 PM.

03-13-12, 05:58 PM	#36
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	That's what Ducimus said, basically what you want to do. Also I think he said, "have at her"... lol :) Thanks, and Happy Hunting! Art __________________ " Bless those who serve beneath the deep, Through lonely hours their vigil keep. May peace their mission ever be, Protect each one we ask of thee. Bless those at home who wait and pray, For their return by night and day."

03-16-12, 05:51 PM	#41
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	I think Sailor Steve is the boss in the Mods, but I'm pretty sure you can upload one to the Subsim mods and link to it from a post. One thing is 1st get the number of bytes in size so the program can list it in KB or MB etc. (it does the math) Unless someone does something really dumb it is kind of hard to get in trouble here. Usually people are very nice and also thankful you contributed. Happy Hunting! Art __________________ " Bless those who serve beneath the deep, Through lonely hours their vigil keep. May peace their mission ever be, Protect each one we ask of thee. Bless those at home who wait and pray, For their return by night and day."

03-16-12, 05:56 PM	#42
Sidekikd34 Part-time skipper Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: All over the Pacific... Posts: 27 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	OK, this is weird... Never mind about my patch idea. I found something weird that seems to point to Ducimus' idea about how the game chooses upgrades. I started with a Gato in March 42, playing on my mod (which only has to do with weapons) over TMO 2.5, and after 5 highly successful patrols, I was offered a new boat. I was given a Balao in September 42, based at Midway. The Balao cfg says it doesn't exist until 1/1/43, and Pearl Harbor and Midway get in 3/1/43 and 3/20/43, respectively. I think Ducimus may be on to something with the game only seeing that there are missions available at that flotilla for every class of boat, and doesn't check boat availability dates at that time. Kind of a head-scratcher, huh? I think I'll try editing the flotillas.cfg and removing the missions from boats until their availability dates, and see what happens then. Could be key to the whole Tambor thing.

03-05-12, 01:06 PM	#33
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Sorry guys, ive been deliberatly avoiding anything mod related in the past week or so. I appreciate everyones efforts in this thread. Ill get caught up to speed after i've had a few more days away from this subject. That and i've been doing stuff in real life that kinda supercedes the virtual one. edit: As an aside, i don't expect anyone to ask my approval to publish any mods that are related to TMO 2.5. See the credits/permissions section in the PDF file for details. You really don't need to ask me.

03-14-12, 12:02 PM	#37
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	One thing i was wondering is if the game would behave the same, or as intended, if the Tambor was TOTALLY removed from all flotillas. The reason i didn't do that, and just "post date" the tambor availablity out of play is because it would involve rewriting the entire flotilla file to be in sequence with the tambor missions removed, and i just didn't have the energy to do it. So i had an "AH HAH!" moment, and just dated the tambor out of play. It could very well be the cause of the problem is that if the game sees missions available for a submarine type, it goes, "oh ok here you go!", even if thats not what you wanted. So a good question again, is, if you were upgraded to the tambor, did your flotilla change? Or did you stay in your current flotilla?

03-14-12, 01:18 PM	#38
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	I just read this thread. There is only one solution. Ducimus, you are fired. I mean demoted. New Title/Rank: Secretary of the Navy. Note: Secretary of the Navy was James Forestall's position during WW2, as that was his title when he signed an order awarding my father a medal for combat on Saipan.

04-01-12, 04:39 AM	#43
Horus3K Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 12 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I was driving a Gar from start of War, and i got a Tambor after 2 exceptional patrols with 75/85k tonnage each...well they are basically the same but numerically its a downgrade? Dunno if this has anything to do with this issue, just to let you guys know

04-03-12, 10:16 AM	#45
Horus3K Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 12 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Sorry for the driving :P...im no native english speaker^^ Yeah i use the small patch now with TMO 2.5, starting a sargo career, after 3rd patrol i got Gar...looking ok so far!