/FLASH// US Forces fire on Iranian small boat

TLAM Strike · 03-07-12, 05:50 PM

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US, Iranians ‘clash’ at sea
KUWAIT CITY, March 5: US troops opened fire on a boat carrying six Iranians near Kuwait’s territorial waters, a source told Al-Shahed daily, adding four Iranians were killed, one was wounded and another was reported missing.
According to the source, the Iranian boat approached a prohibited area that was under the control of US Navy and refused to obey orders. Kuwait’s Coast Guards have been put on alert following the incident, which occurred northeast of the territorial waters of the country.
The source also added that US-Kuwait joint forces began searching for the missing Iranian, while the injured was referred to the US military hospital for treatment. The remains of the four Iranians were recovered by US troops and will be repatriated to Iran.
The US Army has launched an investigation into the incident and is keeping the damaged boat to find out why the Iranians wanted to enter the prohibited area.

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http://www.arabtimesonline.com/NewsD...6/Default.aspx

I'm assuming the "Prohibited Area" was near ABOT/KAOT and the Iranian "Finger".

Oberon · 03-07-12, 05:52 PM

The Drum beat is getting faster...

vienna · 03-07-12, 06:00 PM

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I'm assuming the "Prohibited Area" was near ABOT/KAOT and the Iranian "Finger".

Why hasn't the 'Coalition' just demolished the 'Finger' long ago? I really don't see any downside to obliterating the nuisance; it would really be an act of self-defense by most measures...

TLAM Strike · 03-07-12, 06:06 PM

The situation might be even worse:

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VIENNA (AP) — Satellite images of an Iranian military facility appear to show trucks and earth-moving vehicles at the site, indicating an attempted cleanup of radioactive traces possibly left by tests of a nuclear-weapon trigger, diplomats told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

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Two of the diplomats said the crews at the Parchin military site may be trying to erase evidence of tests of a small experimental neutron device used to set off a nuclear explosion. A third diplomat could not confirm that but said any attempt to trigger a so-called neutron initiator could only be in the context of trying to develop nuclear arms.

The diplomats said they suspect attempts at sanitization because some of the vehicles at the scene appeared to be haulage trucks and other equipment suited to carting off potentially contaminated soil from the site.

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-i...202531198.html

03-07-12, 06:41 PM

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The Drum beat is getting faster...

Yes, the nuts are really pounding on it, you would have thought they had learnt by now

Stealhead · 03-07-12, 08:42 PM

The fact that they appear to be cleaning up Parchin site implies that they are going to "play along" and allow someone to come and look at sites to falsely imply that they have no nuclear weapons program.Somewhat like what Saddam did in the 90s(of course he really did not have much of anything).Seems like Iran might try to play a similar game only they will have something they just wont allow inspectors to any truly active site.

I often wonder if Iran might have interest in chemical and biological weapons those type programs are much easier to hide and can be equally deadly.

The incident with the Iranian boat we'll have to see I doubt it will make things come to a head alone.

Platapus · 03-07-12, 08:44 PM

So when the Iranians find British naval forces in the disputed zone, they capture them, hold them and then release them after negotiations.

When the US finds Iranian naval forces in the disputed zone they open fire.

The Shatt al Arab area has been disputed since before the first Gulf War.

MH · 03-07-12, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

When the US finds Iranian naval forces in the disputed zone they open fire.

The Shatt al Arab area has been disputed since before the first Gulf War.

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According to the source, the Iranian boat approached a prohibited area that was under the control of US Navy and refused to obey orders

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03-07-12, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

So when the Iranians find British naval forces in the disputed zone, they capture them, hold them and then release them after negotiations.

When the US finds Iranian naval forces in the disputed zone they open fire.

It's called the Korben Dallas Solution to Negotiations.
It's what they understand.

Any one else want to negotiate?

Molon Labe · 03-07-12, 09:46 PM

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US denies sea clash - ‘Iranians rescued’
KUWAIT CITY, March 6: The US Navy has denied reports that its forces fired on a boat with six Iranians onboard near Kuwaiti territorial waters on March 5, killing four, wounding one and leaving one mariner unaccounted.

The article, dated March 6 in the Arab Times, that reported the incident from an unnamed source in Al-Shahed newspaper, is unequivocally false and unfounded, according to Lt Rebecca Rebarich, Media Officer for COMUSNAVCENT, US Fifth Fleet based in Bahrain.

“The article inaccurately depicts the search and rescue mission conducted by the US Navy from March 3-4, involving the US Navy Coastal patrol boat USS Firebolt (PC10) and US Coast Guard Cutter Maui (WPB 1304) which rescued an Iranian mariner from the capsized Iranian cargo dhow Abu Al Fazel in the north Arabian Gulf who was treated for shock and hypothermia. Through Firebolt’s civilian translator, the surviving mariner relayed that at approximately 11 pm on March 2, the dhow sank due to bad weather conditions with six mariners aboard. He also confirmed that four died and one was missing. Firebolt recovered the remains of three deceased Iranian mariners in and around the lifeboat and searched for the two missing crew members with other US Navy and Coast Guard forces,” Rebarich added.

“We have confirmed with the Kuwaiti Coast Guard that there is no report of any maritime engagements or mariners in distress resembling the Arab Times article, and their operations remain normal and routine. The US Navy conducts operations in international water and space through the US Central Command area of responsibility,” Rebarich clarified.

First reports are often unreliable...

Torplexed · 03-07-12, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Molon Labe

First reports are often unreliable...

The Gulf of Tonkin it wasn't.

Come to think of it, the Gulf of Tonkin wasn't the Gulf of Tonkin we thought it was.

Onkel Neal · 03-07-12, 10:46 PM

Why am I not seeing this news item in the mainstream press?

And "spy base"? That sounds like hyperbole.

TLAM Strike · 03-07-12, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

And "spy base"? That sounds like hyperbole.

I didn't make the graphic, but I did change what they called ABOT/KAAOT...

I guess "Iranian SIGINT and IRGCN base" wouldn't fit on the graphic.

But it is used to eavesdrop and observe Coalition ships in the NAG. I can't say more.

August · 03-07-12, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Why am I not seeing this news item in the mainstream press?

Good point and also why isn't Iran screaming foul and parading the bodies of those martyred sailors as an example of yet more US Great Satanism?

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And "spy base"? That sounds like hyperbole.

It's hard to tell from the picture but it looks like a channel buoy. What's it a base for, the Munchkin Republican Guard?

Stealhead · 03-07-12, 11:24 PM

Why not just have a land based SIGINT base? Iran could easily have one along the coast that is well with in snooping range.

I think it would take a lot more to really make Iran react military we did not go to war back 88 when that US Navy ship mistook that Iranian airliner as a threat and shot it down.That cost us 61.8 million.

03-07-12, 08:44 PM	#7
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,381 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	So when the Iranians find British naval forces in the disputed zone, they capture them, hold them and then release them after negotiations. When the US finds Iranian naval forces in the disputed zone they open fire. The Shatt al Arab area has been disputed since before the first Gulf War. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	The Drum beat is getting faster...

03-07-12, 08:42 PM	#6
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	The fact that they appear to be cleaning up Parchin site implies that they are going to "play along" and allow someone to come and look at sites to falsely imply that they have no nuclear weapons program.Somewhat like what Saddam did in the 90s(of course he really did not have much of anything).Seems like Iran might try to play a similar game only they will have something they just wont allow inspectors to any truly active site. I often wonder if Iran might have interest in chemical and biological weapons those type programs are much easier to hide and can be equally deadly. The incident with the Iranian boat we'll have to see I doubt it will make things come to a head alone.

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Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Why am I not seeing this news item in the mainstream press? And "spy base"? That sounds like hyperbole.

03-07-12, 11:24 PM	#15
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Why not just have a land based SIGINT base? Iran could easily have one along the coast that is well with in snooping range. I think it would take a lot more to really make Iran react military we did not go to war back 88 when that US Navy ship mistook that Iranian airliner as a threat and shot it down.That cost us 61.8 million.