Erich Topp died 27/12/2005 - Page 2

Oberon · 12-29-05, 08:33 AM

Salute to Konteradmiral Erich Topp.

Lets not forget that as well as being a Uboat ace, he was also a staff member of the military committee of NATO, and a fisherman too it would seem.

As for remembering his victims, yes, that too...although it goes both ways.

That's war...sadly.

UglyMowgli · 12-29-05, 09:17 AM

this official but is not published in the press:

Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,

I just got the message from one of the Admiralâ€™s son that he indeed passed away on Dec. 26th .
He will be now on his last patrol meeting his beloved Pullox, Bertel Endrass and great friend Teddy Suhren when St. Peter will direct him â€œto a special heaven for U-boat commanders where the can continue their old ways of singing, drinking, and merrymakingâ€.

His funeral will take place on Jan. 6th 2006.

Sincerely Yours
Volker Erich Kummrow

http://www.uboat.net/forum/read.php?f=3&i=42567&t=42522

Oberon · 12-29-05, 10:16 AM

Erich Topp

2nd July 1914 - 26th December 2005

UglyMowgli · 12-29-05, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapitain

i thought you ment the eric topp that posted on the forums

He die the 26 th and post the 27th I think not the same person :hmm: and you?

Kapitan · 12-29-05, 12:09 PM

oopppsss lol

he died on the same day as my grand father only my grandfather died about 10 years ago

CCIP · 12-29-05, 12:46 PM

Erich Topp was also the most successful submarine commander alive until that day. The title now passes on to Georg Lassen, who is now 90 years old.

12-30-05, 02:14 PM

The passing of U-boat ace Erich Topp has been confirmed. Check Uboat.net for the latest information. My condolences to his family and friends.

gdogghenrikson · 12-30-05, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Camaero

In my opinion a solder is a solder and all soldiers are heroes. They may be your hated enemy at one point, but when the war is over they are to be respected and you should understand that they were fighting for their country and fighting most of all just to stay alive as your own soldiers were.

This stands even more so whenever there is a draft in effect.

Anyway, I am proud of all our young American boys who went over there and gave their best. I also very much respect the German soldiers and everyone else who fought in the war.

I read Topp's short bio on Uboat.net and it very much seems he was a good man and contributed a lot to society after the war.

That's all I have to say about that!

well put..yup I first heard about Enrich Topp when I played SH2 and watched the interviews with Enrich

wetgoat · 12-30-05, 09:06 PM

All I can say, Salute !!!!

The Bandit · 12-30-05, 09:37 PM

Well this is truly sad news. I can remember seeing Topp interviewed on some history programs I have seen (one that looked at USS Silversides and U-552) and I also remember his interview that came with SHII. This year I had the opportunity to meet some men who were Topp's opponents in the battle of the atlantic, and it saddens me to think that they are a dwindling number. Lest we forget

Marhkimov · 12-30-05, 10:14 PM

Sorry, not knowing any history about Erich Topp, can I ask a question?

What happened to him immediately after the war? In general, what happened to all other surviving U-boat captains? Did they get tried as war criminals?

And in general, what happened to German officers and soldiers? Were they tried?

I'm just curious to know... :hmm:

TLAM Strike · 12-30-05, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marhkimov

Sorry, not knowing any history about Erich Topp, can I ask a question?

What happened to him immediately after the war? In general, what happened to all other surviving U-boat captains? Did they get tried as war criminals?

And in general, what happened to German officers and soldiers? Were they tried?

I'm just curious to know... :hmm:

IIRC only one U-Boat commander was tried for war crimes (the one who machine guned people in the water from some Greek Merchant). And of course Donitz was sentinced to 10 years in prison for wadging a war of aggression.

You might want to read these articles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsequ...remberg_Trials
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Trials

CCIP · 12-30-05, 10:54 PM

Most spent a few years as prisoners, quite a few ended up in Canada. They were generally treated quite well, and I believe all but the mentioned one who was tried and hanged along with his WO for shooting at ship survivors were released in the late 40's without any charges against them.

Pax Melmacia · 12-31-05, 11:36 AM

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Donitz was sentinced to 10 years in prison for wadging a war of aggression.

That and the fact that he became Hitler's successor after the Fuhrer killed himself. (And only because everyone else had bailed)

Pax Melmacia · 12-31-05, 11:42 AM

I, too, am from a country that experienced brutal wartime occupation. My grandfather was beaten up by the Japanese secret police and my father had to go in hiding after our surrender bec. the enemy had heard that he was one of the guards that watched over interned Japanese civilians after Pearl Harbor.

Ironically, the ones who had warned him to hide were Japanese friends from before the war.

I think the only thing 'wrong' with Erich Topp's and other's wartime activities was that he was on the losing side.

I'm pretty sure that aside from the uniforms and language, a U-Boat crew wasn't much different from a USN sub one.

12-29-05, 09:17 AM	#17
UglyMowgli Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 784 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	this official but is not published in the press: Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, I just got the message from one of the Admiralâ€™s son that he indeed passed away on Dec. 26th . He will be now on his last patrol meeting his beloved Pullox, Bertel Endrass and great friend Teddy Suhren when St. Peter will direct him â€œto a special heaven for U-boat commanders where the can continue their old ways of singing, drinking, and merrymakingâ€. His funeral will take place on Jan. 6th 2006. Sincerely Yours Volker Erich Kummrow http://www.uboat.net/forum/read.php?f=3&i=42567&t=42522 __________________ Modern Naval Warfare Community Manager

12-29-05, 12:09 PM	#20
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,131 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	oopppsss lol he died on the same day as my grand father only my grandfather died about 10 years ago __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

12-29-05, 12:46 PM	#21
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Erich Topp was also the most successful submarine commander alive until that day. The title now passes on to Georg Lassen, who is now 90 years old. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

12-30-05, 09:37 PM	#25
The Bandit Sonar Guy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 395 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 1	Well this is truly sad news. I can remember seeing Topp interviewed on some history programs I have seen (one that looked at USS Silversides and U-552) and I also remember his interview that came with SHII. This year I had the opportunity to meet some men who were Topp's opponents in the battle of the atlantic, and it saddens me to think that they are a dwindling number. Lest we forget __________________

12-30-05, 10:14 PM	#26
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sorry, not knowing any history about Erich Topp, can I ask a question? What happened to him immediately after the war? In general, what happened to all other surviving U-boat captains? Did they get tried as war criminals? And in general, what happened to German officers and soldiers? Were they tried? I'm just curious to know... :hmm: __________________ It takes two to tango

12-29-05, 08:33 AM	#16
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Salute to Konteradmiral Erich Topp. Lets not forget that as well as being a Uboat ace, he was also a staff member of the military committee of NATO, and a fisherman too it would seem. As for remembering his victims, yes, that too...although it goes both ways. That's war...sadly.

12-29-05, 10:16 AM	#18
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Erich Topp 2nd July 1914 - 26th December 2005

12-30-05, 02:14 PM	#22
U-552Erich-Topp Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	The passing of U-boat ace Erich Topp has been confirmed. Check Uboat.net for the latest information. My condolences to his family and friends.

12-30-05, 09:06 PM	#24
wetgoat Loader Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 87 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	All I can say, Salute !!!!

12-30-05, 10:54 PM	#28
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Most spent a few years as prisoners, quite a few ended up in Canada. They were generally treated quite well, and I believe all but the mentioned one who was tried and hanged along with his WO for shooting at ship survivors were released in the late 40's without any charges against them. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

12-31-05, 11:42 AM	#30
Pax Melmacia Watch Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Philippines Posts: 27 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I, too, am from a country that experienced brutal wartime occupation. My grandfather was beaten up by the Japanese secret police and my father had to go in hiding after our surrender bec. the enemy had heard that he was one of the guards that watched over interned Japanese civilians after Pearl Harbor. Ironically, the ones who had warned him to hide were Japanese friends from before the war. I think the only thing 'wrong' with Erich Topp's and other's wartime activities was that he was on the losing side. I'm pretty sure that aside from the uniforms and language, a U-Boat crew wasn't much different from a USN sub one.