Man says that he cant make ends meet earning $350,000 a year.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

So far - you have refused to answer either challenge.

Because frankly, they're stupid and not deserving of a response. You're bringing the freaking holocaust into this? Good god, man, get some perspective. That's absolutely insane. I've seen you post some really out there stuff, but this one's a doozy.

I'm done talking to you on this. The guy's a whiny and entitled jackass. End of story. And end of my participation in this thread. I've said my piece.

[CaptainHaplo]

I see.... so while you can castigate this guy, you can't apply the same standards to others because they are more "acceptable" in their employment.

So people get a pass for supporting theft, assault and murder as long as you agree with their target.

So I guess its ok to target someone based on the money they make only because of how they make it. Yea, thats a far cry from targetting someone because of their ancestry or race....

How is the question regarding governmental workers compared to private employees "stupid"?

Oh wait - you don't want a discussion - you want to take your ball and go home on this topic. Oh well.

So I guess its ok to target someone based on the money they make only because of how they make it. Yea, thats a far cry from targetting someone because of their ancestry or race....

It is a very far cry indeed, the difference is so enormous it really is a gaping chasm of such magnitude that even the best yet most optimistic structural engineer would concede that the gap simply cannot be bridged.

For a narrower gap can I expect you to now call out people on the next occasion there is the frequently repeated calls for targetting people because of their race or ancestry?

[HunterICX]

Originally Posted by tater

He's not "rich."

but he sure acts like it, that's his whole problem.
350k may not be rich, but it is a lot.
That he whines he's running short because his spendings has gone out of hand well it's only himself to blame and for him to fix on his own by doing something regarding his spending.

Can't really feel sorry for the bloke and he does deserve a slap in the face to bring him back to reality.

HunterICX

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

I see.... so while you can castigate this guy, you can't apply the same standards to others because they are more "acceptable" in their employment.

There's no comparison. If you can't see the difference between people complaining because they're forced to drop things like healthcare coverage for their family with this retard who thinks driving a Porsche 911 is some form of sacrifice, then you're so far away from seeing the point that it's beyond my rhetorical ability to get you to do so.

So people get a pass for supporting theft, assault and murder as long as you agree with their target.

And again you insult me by assigning me other people's opinions. I never said any of that, I don't think the guy should be killed burned, flayed or what have you, and nor did I ever imply it. And I don't think any of the other posters do. If you can't tell the difference between hyperbole and reality it's due to pure ignorance, willful or otherwise, and it's a pointless waste of time to engage you on the topic. Grow up. Faux outrage is stupid.

So I guess its ok to target someone based on the money they make only because of how they make it. Yea, thats a far cry from targetting someone because of their ancestry or race....

The fact that you still believe that people are knocking him for how much money he makes shows how far the point has flown over your head. You're so far in the dark on this that it's going to take a rescue effort with bloodhounds and helicopters to bring you into understanding. I have no time or inclination to break this down any simpler to get through to someone who wants to bring the holocaust into a discussion about how a spoiled rich man is crying he can't afford the three luxury cars he has. The holocaust. I still can't believe that one. Wow. That's rich.

How is the question regarding governmental workers compared to private employees "stupid"?

One is about folks like police and fire struggling to provide necessities of life to their families, the other is a scumbag who's clawing to maintain a luxury lifestyle he could never afford. The fact that you'd think that the two are remotely equivalent enough to bring it up just shows how ludicrous this discussion has become.

Oh wait - you don't want a discussion - you want to take your ball and go home on this topic. Oh well.

I only have discussions with people who can discuss like a rational adult and have an inkling of understanding of the discussion at hand. You apparently fail both tests.

[MH]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

But hey, Let them eat cake right?

I'm just a working guy as well...with social capitalist views.
I believe that socialised health care and subsidised education is a must for every country and good investment in its people and future.
Everyone should have an equal start opportunity...lets say its a patriotic issue for me...clownish i know..

Other than that, how much money people make or how they spend it is not my business as long as they pay their taxes and other obligation-the issue of taxes, loop holes and other obligations can be debated though.
As long the people on Wall Street work with in a law it's ok with me.If any thing they do damages economy it should be changed from within the legislation.
It's hard to blame them for taking and using the opportunities.


If i knew how to get myself a nice piece of cake i would go for it but i don't have the "how to"...

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by MH

I'm just a working guy as well...with social capitalist views.
I believe that socialised health care and subsidised education is a must for every country and good investment in its people and future.
Everyone should have an equal start opportunity...lets say its a patriotic issue for me...clownish i know..

Other than that, how much money people make or how they spend it is not my business as long as they pay their taxes and other obligation-the issue of taxes, loop holes and other obligations can be debated though.
As long the people on Wall Street work with in a law it's ok with me.If any thing they do damages economy it should be changed from within the legislation.
It's hard to blame them for taking and using the opportunities.


If i knew how to get myself a nice piece of cake i would go for it but i don't have the "how to"...

Well yes, I'm sure he's paying his taxes etc. But, that's not the point here. We (or at least I) are/am commenting on the arrogance and disconnectedness of complaining about only driving a Porsche and not being able to add onto your expensive condo. Many Americans live in squalor, and his comments put off many who are mindful of this, especially in these hard times.

[Stealhead]

The part of Taters claim that I find a little hard to believe is his claim that some police and emergency service workers or teachers I assume you feel this way because the kids are in private school?They might make a lot less money than you realize.A cop that is a sergeant or commander might make a bit over 100k if he has a good union and gets a lot of overtime.My aunt has her daughter in private schools and she earns about 65K I think the tuition is 8,000 a year.

My cousin makes a fairly good amount per on average about 400K per year he has 3 children and lives in a fairly upscale part of Ft.Lauderdale he in reality has more money than some of his neighbors I am pretty sure because he and his wife live quite frugally they have some nice things but nothing over the top they drive "regular" cars not luxury ones.

My friends father in law is an airport manager he makes about 700k a year again he and his wife life frugally with in reason they do some things that there income allows but they don't go into excess.

I agree that some on here are going a bit over the top on hating the guy but you must admit that this guy could cut back on a few things and hed be just fine and still living nicely.The manin the article clearly was living close to the edge even in good economic times he should have been wise and cut back on some things.

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

There's no comparison. If you can't see the difference between people complaining because they're forced to drop things like healthcare coverage for their family with this retard who thinks driving a Porsche 911 is some form of sacrifice, then you're so far away from seeing the point that it's beyond my rhetorical ability to get you to do so.

I see the difference. We agree he is spoiled.

And again you insult me by assigning me other people's opinions. I never said any of that,

I never said you said these things - I simply pointed out what the "leftists" on this board were saying and you never spoke out against it.... that is where the "holocaust" comment came in. I also didn't insult you....

I don't think the guy should be killed burned, flayed or what have you, and nor did I ever imply it.

Your right - you didn't. But because you are one of the few liberal voices on here that I have respect for, I was seriously hoping that you would step up and call out such comments. I even pointed them out - and you did nothing but continue to insult the target of the "hate" - never once stating that such vitriol being spewed at him was uncalled for.

And I don't think any of the other posters do. If you can't tell the difference between hyperbole and reality it's due to pure ignorance, willful or otherwise, and it's a pointless waste of time to engage you on the topic. Grow up. Faux outrage is stupid.

So hyperbole is ok when people talk about lynching someone, but its not ok when I use the same talking about drowning a kid because he is spoiled? Its a two way street - you felt my hyperbole was stupid - but apparently the exaggeration of lynching a "wall streeter" isn't? You still don't see a double standard here?

The fact that you still believe that people are knocking him for how much money he makes shows how far the point has flown over your head. You're so far in the dark on this that it's going to take a rescue effort with bloodhounds and helicopters to bring you into understanding. I have no time or inclination to break this down any simpler to get through to someone who wants to bring the holocaust into a discussion about how a spoiled rich man is crying he can't afford the three luxury cars he has. The holocaust. I still can't believe that one. Wow. That's rich.

No - nothing here is rich. What it is - is saddening. Your more concerned with berating an idiot who spends more than he makes, than taking a stand against those who are now talking openly of violence against people like him. It used to be that such things were not tolerated - now they are. When will you, and others on the left, speak out against this kind of stuff? Will it take a few people getting dragged out of office building and shot in the street by mobs first? Or will you - and others like you - reasonable and intelligent people, still stand idly by? Where do you draw the line? I drew mine here - even "joking" about it is too much. I would have liked to see you join me in that.

One is about folks like police and fire struggling to provide necessities of life to their families, the other is a scumbag who's clawing to maintain a luxury lifestyle he could never afford. The fact that you'd think that the two are remotely equivalent enough to bring it up just shows how ludicrous this discussion has become.

That was not what I asked. I asked you to compare those who you say are "struggling" - that also make more than people doing the same kinds of jobs in non-governmental roles. Why does a paper pusher at the county courthouse make 30% to 50% more than a paper pusher at most private companies, not have to pay into their retirement, not have to pay for their health insurance, and not have to worry if they will have a job tommorow - not be seen as "spoiled" when they scream that their raise wasn't "big enough" compared to the private industry worker doing the same type of job - who makes less and DOES have to pay into his/her own retirement, does have to pay for insurance - and does have to worry if they have a job next week, never mind thinking of a raise or a bonus...

Who in that scenario is "spoiled"? That was the question I asked, and instead of answering it - you have tried to make it about comparing governmental workers with the idiot in the article. Neither Tater nor I asked you about him - we simply asked about another, less fortunate group and you have shown you won't apply the same standards to the question.

I only have discussions with people who can discuss like a rational adult and have an inkling of understanding of the discussion at hand. You apparently fail both tests.

Perhaps it was miscommunication.... Perhaps it wasnt. I regret you felt that I "insulted you". I didn't call your position "stupid" as you did my question. We agree on the reality that this guy is an idiot, though I don't think calling him a "scumbag" is appropriate - his actions prove he lacks a modicum of common sense, but your verbage indicates he has done something heinous, illegal or immoral to get his "luxury lifestyle" - and nothing shows that. More populist rhetoric at work, or just an emotional reaction to his undeserved whining?

[mookiemookie]

I apologize for using the word "stupid." It was stupid of me to do so. That's about it.