Recently got the game

cameron1124 · 02-27-12, 09:20 PM

and I am enjoying it so far, my first mission was to drop off an agent off the coast of japan. Pretty uneventful considering that I didnt run into anything. On the return journey however I get spotted by two seaplanes. They missed with their bombs and I managed to criticaly damage one of them. One of them runs away while the damaged one comes again for another run. I hit it directly with my AA gun, catch it on fire and bring it down in a flurry of flames...right into my submarine! Which then proceeds to sink from having a rather bad case of "Airplane inside the submarine" Is this usual or did I get particularly bad luck?

edit: on another note, was is the best way to find the range of a target?

Torplexed · 02-27-12, 09:38 PM

You were doing great until you decided to duke it out with seaplanes. Most sub skippers in the war avoided engaging aircraft unless they had no other choice. A plane is cheaper than a submarine so even if it just damages you, it's an exchange in favor of the enemy. However, having a plane kamikaze right into your sub is a rare stroke of bad luck indeed.

cameron1124 · 02-27-12, 09:48 PM

The problem was that for some reason or another it took a really long time for the sub to dive down, Im guessing it was because the batteries were very low from avoiding passing ships because the dropoff point was in sneezing distance of a harbor.

Torplexed · 02-27-12, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cameron1124

The problem was that for some reason or another it took a really long time for the sub to dive down, Im guessing it was because the batteries were very low from avoiding passing ships because the dropoff point was in sneezing distance of a harbor.

Well, in general the Gatos (if that is what you were commanding) were slow divers when compared to most contemporary German and British designs, but that was mostly due to the fact that the Gatos were significantly larger boats. Sufficient fuel bunkerage to provide the range necessary for 75 day patrols from Hawaii to Japan and back could only be obtained with a large boat, which will take longer to submerge than a smaller one like a U-Boat. Another reason it's better to duck aircraft if you can.

Flaxpants · 02-27-12, 10:02 PM

As Torplexed said, best move is to get out of the way of any aircraft as fast as you can. And that means the 'C' key for crash dive... way too risky generally to take them on, and as far as I know you get no renown reward for aircraft in SH4 (you sure don't in SH3).

It's fun though..

cameron1124 · 02-27-12, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

Well, in general the Gatos (if that is what you were commanding) were slow divers when compared to most contemporary German and British designs, but that was mostly due to the fact that the Gatos were significantly larger boats. Sufficient fuel bunkerage to provide the range necessary for 75 day patrols from Hawaii to Japan and back could only be obtained with a large boat, which will take longer to submerge than a smaller one like a U-Boat. Another reason it's better to duck aircraft if you can.

I dont think I was commanding a gato, neither was it the salmon, it had a very large conningtower and only one AA gun

Torplexed · 02-27-12, 10:25 PM

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Im guessing it was because the batteries were very low from avoiding passing ships because the dropoff point was in sneezing distance of a harbor.

Can't have been low batteries as it is the diesels engines that drive the boat down. Batteries don't really kick in until you are under.

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I dont think I was commanding a gato, neither was it the salmon, it had a very large conningtower and only one AA gun

That describes every early US submarine with the exception of the S-Boat.

What port did you set out from?

I'm goin' down · 02-27-12, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cameron1124

I hit it directly with my AA gun, catch it on fire and bring it down in a flurry of flames...right into my submarine! Which then proceeds to sink from having a rather bad case of "Airplane inside the submarine"

cameron1124 · 02-27-12, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

Can't have been low batteries as it is the diesels engines that drive the boat down. Batteries don't really kick in until you are under.

That describes every early US submarine with the exception of the S-Boat.

What port did you set out from?

I set sail from Pearl Harbor

Torplexed · 02-27-12, 10:44 PM

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I set sail from Pearl Harbor

Then you likely have (or had) a Gar or Tambor class boat. Fleet boats not too different from the Gato.

cameron1124 · 02-27-12, 10:50 PM

I remember now, it was the Tambor, I also hit my boat up against some rocks while planting the people in japan, so that might have had something to do with it.

I'm goin' down · 02-27-12, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

You were doing great until you decided to duke it out with seaplanes. Most sub skippers in the war avoided engaging aircraft unless they had no other choice. A plane is cheaper than a submarine so even if it just damages you, it's an exchange in favor of the enemy. However, having a plane kamikaze right into your sub is a rare stroke of bad luck indeed.

From the logo, Torpex, it looks like you are scouting for girls.

Torplexed · 02-27-12, 11:26 PM

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From the logo, Torpex, it looks like you are scouting for girls.

I sent the periscope recon photos to CINPAC. For some reason they requested more photos....with a zoom lens. I get the toughest assignments.

cameron1124 · 02-28-12, 08:04 PM

I imagine that would be a tough assignment, all those japanese destroyers making sure no one spies on their "secrets"

I'm goin' down · 02-28-12, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

I sent the periscope recon photos to CINPAC. For some reason they requested more photos....with a zoom lens. I get the toughest assignments.

That is the real question. What EXACTLY are you taking pictures of? (You do not have to answer. In fact, it might be better if you don't answer.)

02-27-12, 09:20 PM	#1
cameron1124 Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 9 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Recently got the game and I am enjoying it so far, my first mission was to drop off an agent off the coast of japan. Pretty uneventful considering that I didnt run into anything. On the return journey however I get spotted by two seaplanes. They missed with their bombs and I managed to criticaly damage one of them. One of them runs away while the damaged one comes again for another run. I hit it directly with my AA gun, catch it on fire and bring it down in a flurry of flames...right into my submarine! Which then proceeds to sink from having a rather bad case of "Airplane inside the submarine" Is this usual or did I get particularly bad luck? edit: on another note, was is the best way to find the range of a target? Last edited by cameron1124; 02-27-12 at 09:50 PM. Reason: correcting spelling mistakes

02-27-12, 09:38 PM	#2
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	You were doing great until you decided to duke it out with seaplanes. Most sub skippers in the war avoided engaging aircraft unless they had no other choice. A plane is cheaper than a submarine so even if it just damages you, it's an exchange in favor of the enemy. However, having a plane kamikaze right into your sub is a rare stroke of bad luck indeed. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

02-27-12, 09:48 PM	#3
cameron1124 Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 9 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The problem was that for some reason or another it took a really long time for the sub to dive down, Im guessing it was because the batteries were very low from avoiding passing ships because the dropoff point was in sneezing distance of a harbor.

02-27-12, 10:02 PM	#5
Flaxpants Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Koh Samui, Thailand Posts: 1,196 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	As Torplexed said, best move is to get out of the way of any aircraft as fast as you can. And that means the 'C' key for crash dive... way too risky generally to take them on, and as far as I know you get no renown reward for aircraft in SH4 (you sure don't in SH3). It's fun though..

02-27-12, 10:50 PM	#11
cameron1124 Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 9 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I remember now, it was the Tambor, I also hit my boat up against some rocks while planting the people in japan, so that might have had something to do with it.

02-28-12, 08:04 PM	#14
cameron1124 Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 9 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I imagine that would be a tough assignment, all those japanese destroyers making sure no one spies on their "secrets"