Is land artillery destroyable?

Slayer_42 · 01-08-12, 09:03 PM

Howdy
Title pretty much sums up the question. Is land artillery destroyable?
I just made a quick mod to add x24 magnification on the deck gun sights and seemed to be nailing an artillery piece from about 6KM away but nothing happened to it.

CCIP · 01-08-12, 09:44 PM

In a word, no.

In fairness, no sub-based artillery would ever be a match for a reinforced coastal defense battery, and there isn't even close to a comparison in terms of accuracy or protection. So there isn't really a reason for these to be made destructible in game.

TorpX · 01-08-12, 10:12 PM

AFAIK, all land objects, in general, are indestructable. I tried to design a training mission where the crew could fire at various land units on a small island, but as you found out, they can be hit, but to no purpose. I'm not sure if it is even possible to destroy guns of merchant ships. (Nobody seems to do it.)

Someone did come up with a mod where you could go somewhere on a mission and shell some buildings and take them out, but I don't know the details. At least, it IS possible.

Slayer_42 · 01-09-12, 01:21 AM

Ok cheers guys. haha i guess im gunna have to relocate to darwyn! haha

peabody · 01-09-12, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TorpX

AFAIK, all land objects, in general, are indestructable.

Someone did come up with a mod where you could go somewhere on a mission and shell some buildings and take them out, but I don't know the details. At least, it IS possible.

Yes, basically to make it destructable you make the land object a ship. I am not sure, but you could try iambecomelife, I think it might be one of his projects. I believe he made a factory.

Peabody

urbanowl · 01-09-12, 12:25 PM

I think no.

WernherVonTrapp · 01-09-12, 05:04 PM

Probably no more/less destroyable than our Battleships' 16" guns were able to accomplish at Tarawa, Saipan, Peleliu, Iwo Jima, Etc..

TorpX · 01-09-12, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by peabody

Yes, basically to make it destructable you make the land object a ship. I am not sure, but you could try iambecomelife, I think it might be one of his projects. I believe he made a factory.

Peabody

Thank-you. Hard to remember all these things.

It's not a bad idea. If someone could put some generic destructable items in the campaign, this could make some of the 'special missions' more worthwhile.

Edit:

Does anyone know if the guns of merchant ships are destructable? I've never heard of anyone being able to take them out.

Platapus · 01-09-12, 08:45 PM

BTW, enemy land based artillery has a much longer range and greater accuracy than any boat.

Trust me on this. I .. uh.. collected data during a field experiment.

I barely got away

JuergenSchT · 01-12-12, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TorpX

I'm not sure if it is even possible to destroy guns of merchant ships.

Well, they can be destroyed. I was with a Porpoise class on 1941 on Japanese waters, and I had already spent 4 torpedoes on a merchant. So I decided to wait for the night and sink it with my deck gun. So I carefully approach the ship, and try to aim for its rear deck gun. I fire, and I take it down. Of course, I was playing in stock game, 80% realism.

In summary, all guns in a warship or merchant (wether they are 1" or 16") can be destroyed.

Sailor Steve · 01-12-12, 05:19 PM

If the 16" gun can be destroyed, something is wrong. Yes, they could be, but not by a 5" submarine deck gun.

JuergenSchT · 01-12-12, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

If the 16" gun can be destroyed, something is wrong. Yes, they could be, but not by a 5" submarine deck gun.

'Must have been my poor writing. Well, they could be destroyed, but by another similar sized gun.

TorpX · 01-12-12, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JuergenSchT

Well, they can be destroyed. I was with a Porpoise class on 1941 on Japanese waters, and I had already spent 4 torpedoes on a merchant. So I decided to wait for the night and sink it with my deck gun. So I carefully approach the ship, and try to aim for its rear deck gun. I fire, and I take it down. Of course, I was playing in stock game, 80% realism.

In summary, all guns in a warship or merchant (wether they are 1" or 16") can be destroyed.

This is good to know.

Sailor Steve · 01-13-12, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JuergenSchT

'Must have been my poor writing. Well, they could be destroyed, but by another similar sized gun.

Ah, I see. Sorry about that.

01-08-12, 09:03 PM	#1
Slayer_42 Watch Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Whangarei, New Zealand Posts: 27 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Is land artillery destroyable? Howdy Title pretty much sums up the question. Is land artillery destroyable? I just made a quick mod to add x24 magnification on the deck gun sights and seemed to be nailing an artillery piece from about 6KM away but nothing happened to it. __________________ Crash dive!!!! --- We're in shallow waters sir.... Hull damaged Radio destroyed Sonar destroyed Rudder damaged Diesel engines damaged

01-08-12, 09:44 PM	#2
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	In a word, no. In fairness, no sub-based artillery would ever be a match for a reinforced coastal defense battery, and there isn't even close to a comparison in terms of accuracy or protection. So there isn't really a reason for these to be made destructible in game. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

01-08-12, 10:12 PM	#3
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	AFAIK, all land objects, in general, are indestructable. I tried to design a training mission where the crew could fire at various land units on a small island, but as you found out, they can be hit, but to no purpose. I'm not sure if it is even possible to destroy guns of merchant ships. (Nobody seems to do it.) Someone did come up with a mod where you could go somewhere on a mission and shell some buildings and take them out, but I don't know the details. At least, it IS possible.

01-09-12, 01:21 AM	#4
Slayer_42 Watch Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Whangarei, New Zealand Posts: 27 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Ok cheers guys. haha i guess im gunna have to relocate to darwyn! haha __________________ Crash dive!!!! --- We're in shallow waters sir.... Hull damaged Radio destroyed Sonar destroyed Rudder damaged Diesel engines damaged

01-09-12, 05:04 PM	#7
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	Probably no more/less destroyable than our Battleships' 16" guns were able to accomplish at Tarawa, Saipan, Peleliu, Iwo Jima, Etc.. __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

01-09-12, 12:25 PM	#6
urbanowl Bilge Rat Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	I think no.

01-09-12, 08:45 PM	#9
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	BTW, enemy land based artillery has a much longer range and greater accuracy than any boat. Trust me on this. I .. uh.. collected data during a field experiment. I barely got away __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

01-12-12, 05:19 PM	#11
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	If the 16" gun can be destroyed, something is wrong. Yes, they could be, but not by a 5" submarine deck gun. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo