Not Your Grand Mothers RUB 1.45 Campaign Mod - Now Available

Der Teddy Bar · 12-20-05, 07:06 AM

Not Your Grand Mothers RUB 1.45 Campaign Mod -- Now Available via this download link!

The Campaign files have been modified so that the "its a merchant it must be going 7 knots" and "its an escort it must be going 11 knots" are no longer.

As it is now, in the default game and the RUB modified game, even on manual TDC, it is simply a point N shoot situation. When getting into a firing position ahead of the vessel, it is a simple race ahead, submerge and wait ## minutes. No need to look as the vessel is always travelling at the same old speed.

NO LONGER! The chase has now got so much more exciting! Every ship and convoy in the game now has a random speed associated with every waypoint. There is no rhyme or reason to the speeds, they are truly random based on the ships original speed.

You will need to continually monitor your prey, constantly re-checking its speed. Not sure of its speed? Better use a spread of torpedos as a real Captain would have been forced to!

No longer will there be the boring same old same old when attacking a ship. Imagine... you plot the convoyâ€™s course and speed and see that you might just make it if it doesn't maintain its current speed. Do you risk the chase on the off chance that the convoy will slow down? Taking the plunge you arriving at where the convoy should be and not finding it... do you head back home or maybe wait as the convoy is yet to arrive?

EDIT...
Credit where credit is due...
The person who made the Not Your Grand Mothers RUB 1.45 Campaign Mod achievable is Stiebler. Without Stiebler's C program the task of modifying the thousands of entries in the campaign files would not have been feasible. Credits for original RUB Campaign mod/s as per the RUB readme file.

Redwine · 12-20-05, 07:36 AM

Many thanks for job and effort Teddy....

Your description looks nice.

Will be a non RUB version in the future ?

Best regards, Red.

Der Teddy Bar · 12-20-05, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redwine

Will be a non RUB version in the future ?

Best regards, Red.

The Not Your Grand Mothers RUB 1.45 Campaign Mod is for both non RUB & RUB versions of the game.

To be more specific, If you have a vanilla SHIII patched to version 1.4b, you can use the Not Your Grand Mothers RUB 1.45 Campaign Mod.

Redwine · 12-20-05, 08:16 AM

Thanks Teddy, looking at name i souposed i was enforced to use RUB.

I am wrong...or this mod contains more changes, i remember been read some time ago another changes...... in example in ship sinking and flooding ....may be ?

Stary Wuj · 12-20-05, 08:32 AM

Good question :-)

Stary Wuj

don1reed · 12-20-05, 08:42 AM

Great piece of work, Teddy.

Tnx,

timetraveller · 12-20-05, 08:48 AM

Outstanding effort, Teddy

Thanks for all your hard work for this mod.

TT

Rubini · 12-20-05, 08:51 AM

Thanks for more this great job ,Teddy!

I just send a PM /email to you with some compatibility questions.

Rubini.

Panama_Red · 12-20-05, 10:54 AM

Do I get the impression that the WHOLE convoy changes speed at each waypoint and all the ships in that convoy have matching speeds each time they change ???

This question would not apply to single merchants, but it is not so clear concerning what happens to all the ships in each individual convoy.

CCIP · 12-20-05, 12:05 PM

Don't worry. The convoy is a group and has no individual ship speeds to speak of. In the SHIII campaign/mission file system, there is conviniently no individual settings for ships within groups - only for groups as a whole.

Panama_Red · 12-20-05, 12:10 PM

CCIP:
Thanks, that is what I thought, but it did not spell it out in his "Readme" file.

CCIP · 12-20-05, 04:29 PM

Teddy -

There seems to be a debate going on over at WaW in regards to the convoy speeds. It seems there's concern about slow/fast convoys and the possibility that this mod doesn't 'model' them properly.

Any chance you could clear up whether or not these are accounted for in the variations?

Personally, it's a non-issue for me, since we only play the game at a tactical level - but maybe this could be clarified.... :hmm:

Rubini · 12-20-05, 05:03 PM

CCIP, Teddy,

I notice that Teddy have changed some velocity on SCR groups too. This can bring another small problems because in the SCR we have some groups that have a determined ETA to arrive in the right time for Historical Operations. See the example for the Bismarck operations: if you alter the velocity some events could never occur in the right way. The Hood can never encounter the Bismarck... :hmm:
What do you think?

Rubini.

CCIP · 12-20-05, 05:11 PM

I didn't put in the SCR file since I use my own

But yes, I can see why that would be a problem.

Der Teddy Bar · 12-20-05, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubini

CCIP, Teddy,

I notice that Teddy have changed some velocity on SCR groups too. This can bring another small problems because in the SCR we have some groups that have a determined ETA to arrive in the right time for Historical Operations. See the example for the Bismarck operations: if you alter the velocity some events could never occur in the right way. The Hood can never encounter the Bismarck... :hmm:
What do you think?

Rubini.

Excellent point. Oops!

Please let me know what needs to be 'left as default' for the the next version.

12-20-05, 07:06 AM	#1
Der Teddy Bar Blade Master Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,388 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Not Your Grand Mothers RUB 1.45 Campaign Mod - Now Available Not Your Grand Mothers RUB 1.45 Campaign Mod -- Now Available via this download link! The Campaign files have been modified so that the "its a merchant it must be going 7 knots" and "its an escort it must be going 11 knots" are no longer. As it is now, in the default game and the RUB modified game, even on manual TDC, it is simply a point N shoot situation. When getting into a firing position ahead of the vessel, it is a simple race ahead, submerge and wait ## minutes. No need to look as the vessel is always travelling at the same old speed. NO LONGER! The chase has now got so much more exciting! Every ship and convoy in the game now has a random speed associated with every waypoint. There is no rhyme or reason to the speeds, they are truly random based on the ships original speed. You will need to continually monitor your prey, constantly re-checking its speed. Not sure of its speed? Better use a spread of torpedos as a real Captain would have been forced to! No longer will there be the boring same old same old when attacking a ship. Imagine... you plot the convoyâ€™s course and speed and see that you might just make it if it doesn't maintain its current speed. Do you risk the chase on the off chance that the convoy will slow down? Taking the plunge you arriving at where the convoy should be and not finding it... do you head back home or maybe wait as the convoy is yet to arrive? EDIT... Credit where credit is due... The person who made the Not Your Grand Mothers RUB 1.45 Campaign Mod achievable is Stiebler. Without Stiebler's C program the task of modifying the thousands of entries in the campaign files would not have been feasible. Credits for original RUB Campaign mod/s as per the RUB readme file.

12-20-05, 07:36 AM	#2
Redwine Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Martin de los Andes, Neuquen, , Argentina. Posts: 1,962 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Many thanks for job and effort Teddy.... Your description looks nice. Will be a non RUB version in the future ? Best regards, Red. __________________ . "SH III and SH IV Mods" "Manual TDC Tutorial" "SH2 Downloads Selection"

12-20-05, 08:16 AM	#4
Redwine Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Martin de los Andes, Neuquen, , Argentina. Posts: 1,962 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Thanks Teddy, looking at name i souposed i was enforced to use RUB. I am wrong...or this mod contains more changes, i remember been read some time ago another changes...... in example in ship sinking and flooding ....may be ? __________________ . "SH III and SH IV Mods" "Manual TDC Tutorial" "SH2 Downloads Selection"

12-20-05, 08:42 AM	#6
don1reed Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Valhalla: Silent Generation Posts: 1,149 Downloads: 910 Uploads: 0	Great piece of work, Teddy. Tnx, __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ~ George Orwell

12-20-05, 12:05 PM	#10
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Don't worry. The convoy is a group and has no individual ship speeds to speak of. In the SHIII campaign/mission file system, there is conviniently no individual settings for ships within groups - only for groups as a whole. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

12-20-05, 08:32 AM	#5
Stary Wuj Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Poland, Zabrze Posts: 268 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Good question :-) Stary Wuj

12-20-05, 08:48 AM	#7
timetraveller Beach Leaf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Atlantic Shipping Lanes Posts: 287 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Outstanding effort, Teddy Thanks for all your hard work for this mod. TT

12-20-05, 08:51 AM	#8
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Thanks for more this great job ,Teddy! I just send a PM /email to you with some compatibility questions. Rubini.

12-20-05, 10:54 AM	#9
Panama_Red Ensign Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 229 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	Do I get the impression that the WHOLE convoy changes speed at each waypoint and all the ships in that convoy have matching speeds each time they change ??? This question would not apply to single merchants, but it is not so clear concerning what happens to all the ships in each individual convoy.

12-20-05, 12:10 PM	#11
Panama_Red Ensign Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 229 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	CCIP: Thanks, that is what I thought, but it did not spell it out in his "Readme" file.

12-20-05, 04:29 PM	#12
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Teddy - There seems to be a debate going on over at WaW in regards to the convoy speeds. It seems there's concern about slow/fast convoys and the possibility that this mod doesn't 'model' them properly. Any chance you could clear up whether or not these are accounted for in the variations? Personally, it's a non-issue for me, since we only play the game at a tactical level - but maybe this could be clarified.... :hmm: __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

12-20-05, 05:03 PM	#13
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	CCIP, Teddy, I notice that Teddy have changed some velocity on SCR groups too. This can bring another small problems because in the SCR we have some groups that have a determined ETA to arrive in the right time for Historical Operations. See the example for the Bismarck operations: if you alter the velocity some events could never occur in the right way. The Hood can never encounter the Bismarck... :hmm: What do you think? Rubini.

12-20-05, 05:11 PM	#14
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I didn't put in the SCR file since I use my own But yes, I can see why that would be a problem. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)