Are you part of the 53%?

[Krauter]

Originally Posted by MothBalls

I think you just made that up, cause I read it was more like 78%.

How do I know you're telling the truth? How do I know if I'm telling the truth!? It's a conspiracy I tells ya!

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by Skybird

A society ignoring its internal deficits and injustice for mythologic and ideologic motives maybe does not even deserve healing and improvement.

Report from the Congressional Budget Office, found it yesterday, coincidentally.

And news from Britain's IDS (Incomes Data Service) says that last year the CEOs and board members of the big economy players and major companies increased their income by around 50%, while the workers and the backbone of the working force saw increases of 2.5% only - with an inflation rate of 5%, which in fact means a decline in spending and consuming power of the average loan. Read this yesterday, and again today. They looked at the 100 biggest British companies of their stock index.

Not much different in Germany. More and more wealth gets accumulated in a smaller and smaller group at the top, the scissor's gap is widening. It'S the same everywhere in the West, it seems,. and probably beyond the West. Even in Greece the ultrarich Greeks still are not merged into the emergency plan to save Greece, and still are allowed to avoid taxes on massive scale, betraying the people.

Yup Wasn't is Kissenger who said:
"He who controls the Money, controls the world"

[joea]

Originally Posted by Krauter

Did you know that 87% of facts, statistics and percentages on the Internet are made up?

[soopaman2]

I work my butt off, pay taxes and do not mind.

Taxes are a part of living in a civilized society..

How about you all stop mocking the Wall Street protestors (most of which are college educated and will contibute to our society eventually) and share some of that venom for fat welfare queens driving a mercedes benz.

Have more kids, get more bucks...I'm sure somehow it is Obamas fault still right? Yeah, screw him..

How about the illegal aliens that draw from the SSI, welfare, WIC and food stamp rolls that work under the table in most cases? (zero taxes/wealth movement)

This thread reeks of partisanship...You are part of the problem.

[Krauter]

Originally Posted by joea

There's something not quite right with that...

But I guess if it's from Abraham Lincoln it must be true

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Krauter

There's something not quite right with that...

But I guess if it's from Abraham Lincoln it must be true

On the other hand someone posted this one several weeks ago:

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by JU_88

The top 1 % are not neccesarily evil greedy monsters. look at the charity work of Bill gates for example.
If you offered a person who despise the 1% a chance to join the 1% I doubt many would refuse based on principle.

The wall street protesters are not united in their beliefs, some are just anti captialst jumping on the band wagon, others are lazy freeloaders.
But the 56% are sorley mistaken if thats what they think the protest is about.

Alot of the portesters are genuinely concerned and about the amount of power and influence that has now been aquired by banks and co-operations, and that it had gone too far- which it has.
There is nothing wrong with having a successful enterprise or business. the problem is that many of them are now above the law and are infulencing goverment legistlation with cash - not ballots.

The top banks now have more power, wealth and influence than the US government itself.
Some thing is horribly wrong with that. in any country the Goverment should be at the very top of the heirachy, in America they are not.

They sold you out, the bail outs are proof of this - and now some people are angry.

I like the way you put this.

I just wish we could settle this whole tax debate with everyone pays a flat percentage on their income, period. No deductions, no write offs, no wiggle room. Just 12% comes out and goes to Washington. Then we would all be part of the 99% and no one could say "He isn't doing as much as me" or "I'm doing more than him".

Each man gets one vote, each man should pay the same percentage in taxes.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I like the way you put this.

I just wish we could settle this whole tax debate with everyone pays a flat percentage on their income, period. No deductions, no write offs, no wiggle room. Just 12% comes out and goes to Washington. Then we would all be part of the 99% and no one could say "He isn't doing as much as me" or "I'm doing more than him".

Each man gets one vote, each man should pay the same percentage in taxes.

Such notions have been presented and are currently presented only to be shot down in a ball of flames. No matter what is attempted there will always be one group that will cry foul. It simply sucks when 47 some odd % do not pay a lick of taxes but enjoy the benefits.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I like the way you put this.

I just wish we could settle this whole tax debate with everyone pays a flat percentage on their income, period. No deductions, no write offs, no wiggle room. Just 12% comes out and goes to Washington. Then we would all be part of the 99% and no one could say "He isn't doing as much as me" or "I'm doing more than him".

Each man gets one vote, each man should pay the same percentage in taxes.

Mr. Stevens, that is common sense. (shame on you sir)
As Mr. Warhawk stated it gets shot down in a ball of flames every time. (even if it is IMHO the best solution)

We need something more complicated and less understandable to the layman. That way the ol IRS can continue to fleece suckers who can't (afford) hire accountants to help them cheat.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by JU_88

The top 1 % are not neccesarily evil greedy monsters. look at the charity work of Bill gates for example.
If you offered a person who despise the 1% a chance to join the 1% I doubt many would refuse based on principle.

The wall street protesters are not united in their beliefs, some are just anti captialst jumping on the band wagon, others are lazy freeloaders.
But the 56% are sorley mistaken if thats what they think the protest is about.

Alot of the portesters are genuinely concerned and about the amount of power and influence that has now been aquired by banks and co-operations, and that it had gone too far- which it has.
There is nothing wrong with having a successful enterprise or business. the problem is that many of them are now above the law and are infulencing goverment legistlation with cash - not ballots.

The top banks now have more power, wealth and influence than the US government itself.
Some thing is horribly wrong with that. in any country the Goverment should be at the very top of the heirachy, in America they are not.

They sold you out, the bail outs are proof of this - and now some people are angry.

Very, very well said.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Such notions have been presented and are currently presented only to be shot down in a ball of flames. No matter what is attempted there will always be one group that will cry foul. It simply sucks when 47 some odd % do not pay a lick of taxes but enjoy the benefits.

You would love my rants on welfare queens who drive nicer cars than me, and get paid according to how many sprogs they shoot out their vagina.

We may be on the opposite side of the "aisle" but there is some things that is just vile.

To use this to discount the OWS is just silly. Grasping at straws to discredit a movement that they fear. Can I ask why, most of them are the (so called)
53%.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

It simply sucks when 47 some odd % do not pay a lick of taxes but enjoy the benefits.

Except that they do pay taxes. Federal payroll taxes for Medicare and Social Security being some of the largest. Sales tax as well.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Except that they do pay taxes. Federal payroll taxes for Medicare and Social Security being some of the largest. Sales tax as well.

Tax Day is a dreaded deadline for millions, but for nearly half of U.S. households it's simply somebody else's problem.

About 47 percent will pay no federal income taxes at all for 2009. Either their incomes were too low, or they qualified for enough credits, deductions and exemptions to eliminate their liability. That's according to projections by the Tax Policy Center, a Washington research organization.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Nearly...105567323.html


Fair tax. No deductions, exemptions...NOTHING. Let's be fair. After all, everyone enjoys what our taxes pay for.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

Mr. Stevens, that is common sense. (shame on you sir)

Shame on me? What for?

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Nearly...105567323.html

That's fine, but where in that article do they say that these people don't pay payroll taxes, sales taxes, excise taxes, property taxes, etc?

The whole "47%" number is intentionally misleading.