Rick Perry suggests US military role in Mexico drug war - Page 2

antikristuseke · 10-02-11, 02:03 PM

Armistead I'd bet quite a bit of money on you being wrong in your assessment.

Jimbuna · 10-02-11, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Shut down about 100 leftover cold war bases in Europe that really have no function and place them on the border. The only reason these leftover bases exist now is political and good money makers....not for americans of course.

My guess is in about 20 years we'll have a mexican president demanding we all learn spanish as our first language.

The first part....you've just about done that in the UK already and we can't afford to lose the revenue from your Pesos

The second part....were people saying similar about a black president twenty years ago?

I honestly wouldn't know

Sailor Steve · 10-02-11, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

were people saying similar about a black president twenty years ago?

In twenty years we're going to have a black president who insists we all learn "black" as our first language?

1480 · 10-02-11, 04:11 PM

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In twenty years we're going to have a black president who insists we all learn "black" as our first language?

Dat bee ebonics foooooooool.

soopaman2 · 10-02-11, 04:29 PM

The same Rick Perry whos state allows in state tuition rates to children of illegal aliens? That means I would have to pay more than a riverswimmer/fencejumper?

Ahhh, that one. Yeah, and he accuses Romney of flip flopping.

Alcohol prohibition=huge increase in organized crime (Capone, Bugs Moran, Nascar.. Yeah Nascar look it up)

Drug prohibition= Mexican Cartels,

Prohibition went away, the brutal violence of the 20s went away.

I wonder how many pot smokers sit in prison amongst murderers and rapists... One is too many.

Armistead · 10-02-11, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

Armistead I'd bet quite a bit of money on you being wrong in your assessment.

You may be right, mexicans aren't coming here like they once did, no jobs, but illegals are still coming and the millions of illegals here are still having babies.

Armistead · 10-02-11, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

The same Rick Perry whos state allows in state tuition rates to children of illegal aliens? That means I would have to pay more than a riverswimmer/fencejumper?

Ahhh, that one. Yeah, and he accuses Romney of flip flopping.

Alcohol prohibition=huge increase in organized crime (Capone, Bugs Moran, Nascar.. Yeah Nascar look it up)

Drug prohibition= Mexican Cartels,

Prohibition went away, the brutal violence of the 20s went away.

I wonder how many pot smokers sit in prison amongst murderers and rapists... One is too many.

I agree, spending billions on putting pot smokers behind bars, money could be much better spent. I haven't smoked it in 20 years, but I see no problem with it. They should legalize it and tax it. Course it wouldn't be long before some corporation put all the small pot farmers out of business.

TLAM Strike · 10-02-11, 06:58 PM

Why not. Hezbollah is working in Mexico now, lets make this an international war.

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The US going into a country that doesn't have oil?

Mexico is the world's 6th largest producer of oil.

Castout · 10-02-11, 07:41 PM

Just a crazy what if

What if US had been wanting to go into Mexico and basically annex it.

What if the US had been supporting the drug cartel without them knowing, to create the ensuing chaos that would justify sending military forces into Mexico.

I've asked this many times since the drug cartel violence sprung up in the news.

CCIP · 10-02-11, 08:00 PM

Frankly that'd only make sense if there were any reason the US wanted Mexico. And all things considered, the US does NOT want Mexico, you can trust me on that. Why get rid of one of the biggest sources of cheap abuse-able labour by granting them the same rights as US citizens? Why flood your country with MORE hispanic population that'd immediately demand a more left-leaning order of things?

In general, there's no point for the US to 'annex' any place in the Americas. They have other ways of influencing them, and these ways have certainly proven effective over and over.

Gerald · 10-03-11, 10:00 AM

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Frankly that'd only make sense if there were any reason the US wanted Mexico. And all things considered, the US does NOT want Mexico, you can trust me on that. Why get rid of one of the biggest sources of cheap abuse-able labour by granting them the same rights as US citizens? Why flood your country with MORE hispanic population that'd immediately demand a more left-leaning order of things?

In general, there's no point for the US to 'annex' any place in the Americas. They have other ways of influencing them, and these ways have certainly proven effective over and over.

Good point!

soopaman2 · 10-03-11, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

I agree, spending billions on putting pot smokers behind bars, money could be much better spent. I haven't smoked it in 20 years, but I see no problem with it. They should legalize it and tax it. Course it wouldn't be long before some corporation put all the small pot farmers out of business.

I sound like a "smoky car" hippy with my post. I can't smoke it because I operate heavy machinery and am tested, but see vastly more social problems with alcohol than with marijuana.

Of course legalizing pot would do little, as cartels only derive 15% (according to what I read) from marijuana, and any pot smoking American knows Canada grows better green anyways. Seedless and not packed into a compressed brick.

Look at the politics behind the movie "reefer madness". It was a propaganda film back in the days to put hemp farmers out of business. Du Pont wanted to kill hemp and succeeded, resulting in our current drug laws. One of Americas earliest examples of why "lobbying" is bad.

Can't lobby in Europe, they call it bribery, which it is.

August · 10-03-11, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Castout

Just a crazy what if

What if US had been wanting to go into Mexico and basically annex it.

There would be a lot better ways of going about it than what you're suggesting. It'd be far easier and cheaper for us to just close the border.

soopaman2 · 10-03-11, 11:12 AM

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There would be a lot better ways of going about it than what you're suggesting. It'd be far easier and cheaper for us to just close the border.

Agreed.

If we wanted to we can use the same thinly veiled casus belli to declare Mexico a renegade we did for Iraq part II. Then If the UN objected we would tell them to "go kick rocks" like we did for the same above mentioned war. They won't do anything, The USA feed 75% of money and materiel as well as manpower.

And the above paragraph is not praise. I don't like us using our military like so. It reeks of colonialism, something that Americas hatred for made us a country. (Sorry Britain, we still love you)

Ducimus · 10-03-11, 11:27 AM

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Mexico lost around half its territory to the US after a war in the 1840s, and has since been very protective of its sovereignty.

They've been doing a bang up job taking that territory back without firing a shot too.

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soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	The same Rick Perry whos state allows in state tuition rates to children of illegal aliens? That means I would have to pay more than a riverswimmer/fencejumper? Ahhh, that one. Yeah, and he accuses Romney of flip flopping. Alcohol prohibition=huge increase in organized crime (Capone, Bugs Moran, Nascar.. Yeah Nascar look it up) Drug prohibition= Mexican Cartels, Prohibition went away, the brutal violence of the 20s went away. I wonder how many pot smokers sit in prison amongst murderers and rapists... One is too many. __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

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Castout Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 4,794 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 6	Just a crazy what if What if US had been wanting to go into Mexico and basically annex it. What if the US had been supporting the drug cartel without them knowing, to create the ensuing chaos that would justify sending military forces into Mexico. I've asked this many times since the drug cartel violence sprung up in the news. __________________ My blog: http://exposingsingapore.wordpress.com/

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CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Frankly that'd only make sense if there were any reason the US wanted Mexico. And all things considered, the US does NOT want Mexico, you can trust me on that. Why get rid of one of the biggest sources of cheap abuse-able labour by granting them the same rights as US citizens? Why flood your country with MORE hispanic population that'd immediately demand a more left-leaning order of things? In general, there's no point for the US to 'annex' any place in the Americas. They have other ways of influencing them, and these ways have certainly proven effective over and over. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

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antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Armistead I'd bet quite a bit of money on you being wrong in your assessment.