Strange UFO object discovered at the bottom of the Baltic

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Woah, woah, woah! I'd doctored the pic! Now it's disappeared - that means the aliens didn't agree with what I'd put.

Or I cocked-up the link!

That'll larn ya not to meddle

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

And some of us, it seems, are ready to jump on anything and everything unexplained and believe it's a spaceship.



Lemuria: Lots of modern BS. Not even invented until the 1800s.

Mu: Again, invented in the 19th Century to explain later civilizations. No ancient records at all.

Minoan civilization: A real ancient civilization, recently discovered. The only thing special about it is that it's an ancient civilization recently disovered.

Thule: A mythical, possibly real land, mentioned several time in ancient and medieval sources. The problem is that every mention refers to something different than the others. May be the Orkneys, may be Iceland, may be Norway, may be anything. Nothing special about it.

ancient ET wars on earth: Now that's a good joke. Lots of sites formed by True Believers, no real evidence at all. Here's a good link you led me to:
http://www.philipcoppens.com/bestevidence.html

The one you forgot to include in your Google list was Atlantis, or you would have known that from its mention by Plato it was likely an Island in the Mediterranean (the 'Pillars of Herakles') referred to many different landmarks, not just present-day Gibraltar). Thera is a good candidate, as it was apparently destroyed by tsunami due to volcanic action.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis

If this thing turns out to be an ancient spaceship I'll be amazed and delighted, for I would love to find such evidence. But if it turns out to be something else, will you stop believing? No, you'll just look for more, because you are a True Believer, and this stuff is your God, and I'm rapidly losing any respect I had for you. Sorry.

I have no GOD Steve,and if you want to lose respect for me thats fine,I never asked for respect in the first place.
We are all entitled to our opinions,beliefs,inspirations etc,if people cant handle that they can do me a favour and take cyanide,its none of their business.

Now the one thing that 'I' for one cant stand and thats religious people,because they try to force 'their' beliefs on others and they havent even seen god or any of their poxy bloody miracles themselves!.They are all a bunch of weak minded sheep trying to find their own reasons for their existence,and they call it religion,what a joke.

And god is probably an ET anyway.

Rant over. *damn!*

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Paul Riley

INow the one thing that I for one cant stand and thats religious people,because they try to force 'their' beliefs on others and they havent even seen god themeselves!.

But you talk like a True Believer, and that's all anyone can tell.

No, let me rephrase that. If it's not your God, why do try so hard to convince everyone to believe it?

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

But you talk like a True Believer, and that's all anyone can tell.

No, let me rephrase that. If it's not your God, why do try so hard to convince everyone to believe it?

Steve,

I posted a bloody innocent piece of information I happened to see in the paper today,what the hell is wrong with that?! lots of people have fringe beliefs,alternative views,out of the box mindsets,just like Werner Von Braun did,remember him?

So much for freedom of speech,what a crock.



This thread is over (on my part at least),I wont be posting any of this stuff again *sigh*

Guess i'm going to get another infraction for speaking my mind here.

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by Paul Riley

Steve,

I posted a bloody innocent piece of information I happened to see in the paper today,what the hell is wrong with that?! lots of people have fringe beliefs,alternative views,out of the box mindsets,just like Werner Von Braun did,remember him?

So much for freedom of speech,what a crock.



This thread is over (on my part at least),I wont be posting any of this stuff again *sigh*

Guess i'm going to get another infraction for speaking my mind here.

Also,if you can show me any evidence of me trying to FORCE anyone to do anything then I take back all I have said here and hang my head in defeat.
There is NO indication that I was trying to do 'anything' ,just share some interesting information,whether people believe anything or not is their business and individual rights to be honest.

[Egan]

Guys, can we stick to what's important here?

Gillian Anderson. Yes.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Paul Riley

I posted a bloody innocent piece of information I happened to see in the paper today,what the hell is wrong with that?!

Nothing at all. But you went on to preach it and defend it and post links to 'prove' it. And now you're upset because people think you're rather silly to do so?

lots of people have fringe beliefs,alternative views,out of the box mindsets,just like Werner Von Braun did,remember him?

The nazi that we stole. Sure, I remember him. Lots of people also try to 'prove' their bizarre ideas to the mainstream, and get ridiculed for it.

So much for freedom of speech,what a crock.

Not at all. You're free to say anything you want. And so am I. No one has told you can't say it, so your freedom hasn't been touched.

This thread is over (on my part at least),I wont be posting any of this stuff again *sigh*

Probably for the best. If you want to believe something preposterous, fine. If it turns out to be true I'll be the first to apologize. But when you insist on preaching it you've got to expect opposition.

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by Egan

Guys, can we stick to what's important here?

Gillian Anderson. Yes.

I am simply defending myself here,it wasnt called for,Steve implying things about me that was not my intention.And then saying he was losing respect for me? wtf,why?

But yes,I would like to end this rant now

My apologies.

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Nothing at all. But you went on to preach it and defend it and post links to 'prove' it. And now you're upset because people think you're rather silly to do so?


The nazi that we stole. Sure, I remember him. Lots of people also try to 'prove' their bizarre ideas to the mainstream, and get ridiculed for it.


Not at all. You're free to say anything you want. And so am I. No one has told you can't say it, so your freedom hasn't been touched.


Probably for the best. If you want to believe something preposterous, fine. If it turns out to be true I'll be the first to apologize. But when you insist on preaching it you've got to expect opposition.

Preaching?! haha,whatever.

I hate preachers.

Thats it now,this is over.



Back to whats important,and thats going to bed shortly,zzz *too hot,need...air*

[Paul Riley]

My final post on this thread,a sort of consolation if you will.

There is absolutely no shame or reason to be embarrassed WHATSOEVER for finding topics such as UFOs,aliens,ET civilizations,nazis on the moon,nazi super soldiers etc etc interesting.On the contrary it is good,as it fires our imaginations,and imagination (thought/consciousness etc) is the seed of all creation.



If people want to call me a nut,fine,but man do I have a great imagination,something mainstream society is seriously lacking these days

[Sailor Steve]

Three posts to say you're done? Believe it or not, I was going to let you have the last word with the first one, but the other two goaded me.

It's not that you believe these things, and it has nothing to do with imagination. It's that you post links to different things (except in this case you didn't post the links, you just said "look it up yourself") and seem to think that if we just looked at your 'evidence' we'd become believers ourselves. It's just like the 9/11 guys, who did exactly the same thing. And when someone challenges you on it you try even harder to convince us. Whether you hate preachers or not, that's exactly what all fervent believers do - try everything they can to prove they're right and then accuse anyone who presents contrary evidence of "attacking" them.

It's not that you believe these things, it's just that you try so hard to get others to believe them. Imagination has nothing to do with it, just gullibility.

Sorry for the ridicule, but your ardent desire to convince everyone just pushed all my buttons the wrong way. I learned long ago to question everything I believe, and everything everyone else asks me to believe. At this point I don't believe much of anything, which may be sad but I also feel sad for people who believe anything unquestioningly. You could be right, and as I said if this turns out to be a spaceship I'm going to feel stupid. No, not stupid, because I'm willing to believe it too. I want want to see proof first, not thousands upon thousands of pages of speculation.

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Three posts to say you're done? Believe it or not, I was going to let you have the last word with the first one, but the other two goaded me.

It's not that you believe these things, and it has nothing to do with imagination. It's that you post links to different things (except in this case you didn't post the links, you just said "look it up yourself") and seem to think that if we just looked at your 'evidence' we'd become believers ourselves. It's just like the 9/11 guys, who did exactly the same thing. And when someone challenges you on it you try even harder to convince us. Whether you hate preachers or not, that's exactly what all fervent believers do - try everything they can to prove they're right and then accuse anyone who presents contrary evidence of "attacking" them.

It's not that you believe these things, it's just that you try so hard to get others to believe them. Imagination has nothing to do with it, just gullibility.

Sorry for the ridicule, but your ardent desire to convince everyone just pushed all my buttons the wrong way. I learned long ago to question everything I believe, and everything everyone else asks me to believe. At this point I don't believe much of anything, which may be sad but I also feel sad for people who believe anything unquestioningly. You could be right, and as I said if this turns out to be a spaceship I'm going to feel stupid. No, not stupid, because I'm willing to believe it too. I want want to see proof first, not thousands upon thousands of pages of speculation.

Thats your opinion Steve.I dont 'believe' (true believer as you put it makes it sound like religion,like Mormons or something.Trust me,i'm none of that) in anything,I simply have a VERY open mind that refuses to close.
Oh well,we are what we are and no one can change that,and i'm screwed,i'm off to bed

Keep watching the skies...and beneath the waves

[Lord Justice]

oh dear....

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by Lord Justice

oh dear....

The way this thread turned out? ,I know,shame really

[Platapus]

So how about them Washington Redskins?

Are they gonna suck this year or what?