bomb in oslo

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

German newspaper Die Welt claims to have an original copy of a 1500 paged manifest by the murderer, in which he describes the desatruction of Wetsern culture by a union of Marxists and Muslims with abusing multiculturalism as their primary weapon to achieve this. He calls for battle against multiculturalists and Muslim migration into Europe, and quotes even one of my own favourite German writers Henryk Broder who said that he doubts that the Europeans have the will to resist to the Islamisation of Europe. He calls for armed resistence and deportation and recommends people to stockpile weapons for the coming civil war, and he demands a reorientation of the national policy to focus on fostering agriculture, medicine and craftsmanships. He signed this manifest with something like "Poor Knights of Christ and the Salomonic Temple", and links himself and the needed future political system in Europe to the system of the order of the Temnple Knights and something that he calls a Russian administrative democracy, since democracy of the current type has failed. He counts for 45.000 killed multiculturalists and Marxists in the coming fight, and one million wounded, and gives explantions on how to build big bombs. The EU should be destroyed, the national government should be replaced since they were no longer truly democratic, the military should be strenghened, there should be a mandatory birth quota for women in Europe and a complete deportation of Muslims out of Europe.

Original quotes (in German translation) here:
http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/artic...-Manifest.html

As I said: no amok runner who just ticked out over emotional breakdown, but a guy seeing himself on a mission to save the world. His intellect is precisely working in an instrumental, short-reaching understanding, but he shows signs of megalomania, messiah-syndrome and omni-potence, and his visions mislead him since he seems to have lost track of reality and what realistically can be achieved (or not being able to logically combine all the lose ends from his many theories, leaving him with just his disaconnected-from-reality conclusions).

1500 pages. Never ever complain again about any of my essays! He definitely is mentally deranged. Intelligent in a way, but mentally deranged nevertheless.

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Update:

The man accused of a massacre at a youth camp in Norway and a bombing in the capital, Oslo, has admitted responsibility, his lawyer says.
Anders Behring Breivik, 32, described his actions as "gruesome but necessary", and said he would explain himself at a court hearing on Monday.
"He thought it was gruesome having to commit these acts, but in his head they were necessary," Mr Breivik's lawyer Geir Lippestad told Norwegian media.

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Well it doesn't look like he's going to be around to participate

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by BossMark

How wrong could I be, and reading a post further down the max this lunatic can get is 21 years imprisonment ?

Apparently not...if I'm interpreting Vendor @ #129 correctly.

[BossMark]

This bloke is a insane maniac and should be put out of his misery

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14265094

[Skybird]

Don't know about Norway, but in Germany, extremely dangerous offenders, usually sex offenders, also offenders with mental diseases like sociopathy, could serve their prison penalty and afterwards being brought into a closed, prison-like facility for something that is called "Sicherheitsverwahrung" over here. But the EU has objected to that meanwhile, and the system sees chnages, which led to the enforced release (against better police knowledge, I must add) of 60 sex offenders recently, at least two of which I remember to have heared to have committed new crimes against kids meanwhile whom they raped again. They were given the opportunity to do so in the name of freedom and a humanitarian, liberal society.

The releases also lead to some hilarioius police operation, costing millions, becasyue several of these men are being monitored by 2-4 man teams around the clock.

However, the prinicple possibility of a post-prison "Sicherheitsverwahrung" maybe exists in Norwegian law. As long as the EU does not slap them and says "nonononono!" again.

[karyvi2]

...to all the victims of this horrible disaster .

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Skybird

However, I noted a probably unintended coincidence in German TV news early Saturday evening. In a broadcast from the scene, they interviewed 6 or 7 young people who escaped, but had been there. One was an obviously Scandianvian girl, white, blond. The others all where Arab/ME-looking people, definitely no Scandinavians.

Noticed that too when watching the "Tageschschau" yesterday. I guess that's what made the camp the target.

[Jimbuna]

Been watching Sky and BBC News for the last hour and the Oslo Police Chief has stated that the gunman has admitted what he has done but doesn't feel he has done anything wrong

Both channels are also confirming that the maximum sentence cannot exceed 21 years.

[BossMark]

Hasn't done anything wrong? this bloke is really a sad bastard, so in say 21 years time this tosser will be released from jail and repeat all this again

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by BossMark

Hasn't done anything wrong? this bloke is really a sad bastard, so in say 21 years time this tosser will be released from jail and repeat all this again

My sentiments entirely.

[Feuer Frei!]

Update 24 July, 10:48:

"He wanted a change in society and, from his perspective, he needed to force through a revolution," Mr Lippestad said. "He wished to attack society and the structure of society."

His lawyer, Mr Lippestad, said: "He's stated that he went to Utoeya to give the Labour Party a warning that 'doomsday would be imminent' unless the party changed its policies."
Mr Lippestad says the suspect remained calmed and balanced throughout a 10-hour night of interrogation.
"I think he's realised what he's done, and he views himself as sane," he said.




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[VirtualVikingX]

21 years is the max punishment. Dangerous persons may however be keep after their sentence is finished. Technically that is Not punishment but protection of society.

[Spoon 11th]

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[Oberon]

I think what Vendor is trying to say is that in the justice system he can only receive 21 years, but I think that in prison he may last a lot less...and in fact may make use of his shoelaces...or someone else will make use of them for him. If he is still alive after 21 years then he'll probably be put somewhere secure for his own protection rather than for others.

You don't become the biggest mass murderer in Norwegian history and just walk away...of that I am sure.

[Oberon]

I think we're going to see a lot more of what Spoon has posted springing up, I can't say I'm surprised that this has happened, surprised where it happened, and saddened by it...but not entirely surprised. We have been in an ideological war since 9/11. Nutters on both sides have been at it and unfortunately it is the ordinary folk that get caught in the crossfire.

I think we're going to see a lot more of what Spoon has posted springing up

Nothing new, look at that murdering prick Copeland and his loony rants, exactly the same crap as this idiot wrote, he too saw nothing wrong with what he was doing.

We have been in an ideological war since 9/11

It goes back way before then.

Nutters on both sides have been at it and unfortunately it is the ordinary folk that get caught in the crossfire.

No, the nutters are on the same side even though they "think" they are opposites. there is no real difference between jihadi nuts and christian identity scum..they are all just sick murdering bastards with twisted minds.