who wants rid of the EU?

Kapitan · 11-23-05, 02:30 AM

simple who wants rid of the EU state your reasons and what not here

retired1212 · 11-23-05, 02:40 AM

This is for businessmen only. You follow what the bunch of politicians from other countries want. Heard (not sure) that EU asks Finland to close some sugar factories.

Drebbel · 11-23-05, 03:03 AM

Is this Q for real ??

How could Europe economically survive with all the old borders+import taxex+regulations+..... back ??

IMHO main concern is for people that now Europe moves from a economic union (which very few people where against) to a "United States of Europe".

IMHO borders are stupid man made thing. I am a world citizan !! So take down those borders if we can !!!

Happy Times · 11-23-05, 03:51 AM

Don t see see an option in tearing it down. Economically inpossible. But it needs restructuring and coming from Finland, i cant tolerate the corruption in some countries.

Plus we have to make Romania,Bulgaria and the rest of Balkan countries the last ones taken in. Even with them its going to be a battle of values. To the Ukraine a special status must be created with maybe a possibility to join, maybe. Theres no way in hell that Finns are going to except the Turkish as members. Special status to them maybe. And to Israel naturally. Then the doors are closed and we can start sorting the mess we call Europe.

XabbaRus · 11-23-05, 05:22 AM

Flat no to Turkey and Israel.

Happy Times · 11-23-05, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oombongo

This is for businessmen only. You follow what the bunch of politicians from other countries want. Heard (not sure) that EU asks Finland to close some sugar factories.

Its not just factories, its the production entirely thats threatened. They have just decidede that its going to be produced in France,Germany and Poland. The point is that if economics is to determine these things there wouldnt be any kind of agriculture in Finland. But personally i am not ready to give up self suffiency and trust Europe to feed us in all conditions.

retired1212 · 11-23-05, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Times

Its not just factories, its the production entirely thats threatened. They have just decidede that its going to be produced in France,Germany and Poland. The point is that if economics is to determine these things there wouldnt be any kind of agriculture in Finland. But personally i am not ready to give up self suffiency and trust Europe to feed us in all conditions.

Phew!!! Where those people will go who are going to loose their jobs.

Perhaps someday the condom factories will be transfered to other conutries too.

hmmm...time to flee. I am going to escape to some other European country or to Alaska, US.

diver · 11-23-05, 06:02 AM

Get rid.

It's ludicrous, Australians with one British Parent or Two British Grandparents will soon have less rights to live/work/holiday in Britain than some bloody German who has no connections to the UK.

The UK is prostituting itself to Europe and slapping its commonwealth brothers in the face.

Shame on you Tony Blair

That and I think the EU's economic policies are extremely unfair to other countries throughout the world, particuarly those in the developing world. Europe is becoming too self absorbed, and frankly too open to itself, and closed to others. Others weho have been far more friendly to particular EU nations than other euro countries have ever been.

Type941 · 11-23-05, 06:39 AM

please, I don't want the United States of Europe (or the new USSR with Blue Flag). I want to stop accepting new members from places like Turkey just because the US says so. I also want to have countries like Germany and France to actually follow the growth directives of EU.

So overall, I want to stay in EU, but I don't want the borders diluted more. I want to travel anywhere without visas, and trade without currency fluctuations and whatnot, but I don't want to unify with every single country, because that's just impossible.

OH, and it's funny to hear those opine on the matter who are not actually a part of EU!

TteFAboB · 11-23-05, 06:57 AM

The economical EU is a good idea, if it can be sorted out and done correctly enough, even if that turns Europe into a strong block hard to fight against subsidies, but the political EU is bad.

Happy Times · 11-23-05, 07:14 AM

If the EU brakes up i would like to see the new Kalmar Union/Hansa Union type of thing :hmm: With Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland , Estonia, Latvia. We would have everything we need to be self sufficient and large enough size in the global world

30 million very homogenious people with a lot of common history,culture, religion(Lutheran) would be easy to build on compared to EU.

Comments my fellow nordic people?

Oberon · 11-23-05, 07:20 AM

Getting rid of the EU?
Give it a couple of years and it'll self destruct anyway

retired1212 · 11-23-05, 07:22 AM

I wonder who have select the options in this thread to alter the results

XabbaRus · 11-23-05, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diver

Get rid.

It's ludicrous, Australians with one British Parent or Two British Grandparents will soon have less rights to live/work/holiday in Britain than some bloody German who has no connections to the UK.

The UK is prostituting itself to Europe and slapping its commonwealth brothers in the face.

Shame on you Tony Blair

That and I think the EU's economic policies are extremely unfair to other countries throughout the world, particuarly those in the developing world. Europe is becoming too self absorbed, and frankly too open to itself, and closed to others. Others weho have been far more friendly to particular EU nations than other euro countries have ever been.

That I do understand.

My daughter was born in Moscow, as I am British she automatically gets British citizenship and passport BUT, and get this, If my daughter gets married to a foreigner OR tp another Brit who was born OUTSIDE of the UK, then she cannot automatically pass her citizenship down to her children IF they are born outside of the UK as I passed my citizenship down to her.

This pisses me off, it also pisses of my wife who sees that my daughter has less rights as a British person/half English than the children of non-British people who are born in Britain.

Especially up here in NE Scotland where we have tons of new-EU nationals, not that I have anything againsts them personally but it does piss me off that my daughter has less rights and she is half British/English.

Tony Blair is a wanker. But then again if Britain gives up her rebate, which I guess would be fair, then France MUST give up her massive farming subsidies.

August · 11-23-05, 09:41 AM

I'm an American so i figure its none of my business...

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rid of the EU	11	28.95%
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11-23-05, 02:30 AM	#1
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11-23-05, 02:40 AM	#2
retired1212 Officer Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Pole, World Posts: 240 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This is for businessmen only. You follow what the bunch of politicians from other countries want. Heard (not sure) that EU asks Finland to close some sugar factories. __________________ Sub has been gifted to enemy in exchange of asylum and money

11-23-05, 05:22 AM	#5
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11-23-05, 06:39 AM	#9
Type941 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: U-52 Posts: 1,270 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	please, I don't want the United States of Europe (or the new USSR with Blue Flag). I want to stop accepting new members from places like Turkey just because the US says so. I also want to have countries like Germany and France to actually follow the growth directives of EU. So overall, I want to stay in EU, but I don't want the borders diluted more. I want to travel anywhere without visas, and trade without currency fluctuations and whatnot, but I don't want to unify with every single country, because that's just impossible. OH, and it's funny to hear those opine on the matter who are not actually a part of EU! __________________ Sink the Bismarck SH3 Movie

11-23-05, 03:03 AM	#3
Drebbel Dutch Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Almost at periscope death ! Posts: 1,665 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Is this Q for real ?? How could Europe economically survive with all the old borders+import taxex+regulations+..... back ?? IMHO main concern is for people that now Europe moves from a economic union (which very few people where against) to a "United States of Europe". IMHO borders are stupid man made thing. I am a world citizan !! So take down those borders if we can !!!

11-23-05, 03:51 AM	#4
Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,950 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Don t see see an option in tearing it down. Economically inpossible. But it needs restructuring and coming from Finland, i cant tolerate the corruption in some countries. Plus we have to make Romania,Bulgaria and the rest of Balkan countries the last ones taken in. Even with them its going to be a battle of values. To the Ukraine a special status must be created with maybe a possibility to join, maybe. Theres no way in hell that Finns are going to except the Turkish as members. Special status to them maybe. And to Israel naturally. Then the doors are closed and we can start sorting the mess we call Europe.

11-23-05, 06:02 AM	#8
diver Engineer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 213 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Get rid. It's ludicrous, Australians with one British Parent or Two British Grandparents will soon have less rights to live/work/holiday in Britain than some bloody German who has no connections to the UK. The UK is prostituting itself to Europe and slapping its commonwealth brothers in the face. Shame on you Tony Blair That and I think the EU's economic policies are extremely unfair to other countries throughout the world, particuarly those in the developing world. Europe is becoming too self absorbed, and frankly too open to itself, and closed to others. Others weho have been far more friendly to particular EU nations than other euro countries have ever been.

11-23-05, 06:57 AM	#10
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	The economical EU is a good idea, if it can be sorted out and done correctly enough, even if that turns Europe into a strong block hard to fight against subsidies, but the political EU is bad.

11-23-05, 07:14 AM	#11
Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,950 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	If the EU brakes up i would like to see the new Kalmar Union/Hansa Union type of thing :hmm: With Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland , Estonia, Latvia. We would have everything we need to be self sufficient and large enough size in the global world 30 million very homogenious people with a lot of common history,culture, religion(Lutheran) would be easy to build on compared to EU. Comments my fellow nordic people?

11-23-05, 07:20 AM	#12
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Getting rid of the EU? Give it a couple of years and it'll self destruct anyway

11-23-05, 07:22 AM	#13
retired1212 Officer Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Pole, World Posts: 240 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I wonder who have select the options in this thread to alter the results __________________ Sub has been gifted to enemy in exchange of asylum and money

11-23-05, 09:41 AM	#15
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm an American so i figure its none of my business... __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.