Top Nazi Rudolf Hess exhumed from 'pilgrimage' grave

[Gerald]

@conspiracy theory! When it comes to the Nuremberg trials, as were all the defendants, well unconcerned about what was read by the prosecutor, and as evidence of what was hard evidence against different people and not a pleasant story for their families who have suffered and are suffering over what was a fact, after visiting soon fifty-six years later ... you can make your own interpretation, just like everyone else, but it is impossible to change the truth, for a further insight into Mein Kampf,buy it from Amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...6/freethinkers

[Lord Justice]

I feel no ambition for a share of it, I desire some hold fourth sensibly! On a subject matter as this, the volatile become easy prey.

[Growler]

Originally Posted by conspiracy_theory

Well you can read a book called the holocaust industry, actually written by a jew, apart from that, i'd say that watch that vid i sent you and all will become clear. I mean you tell me why the bbc censored the comments on this story. Why nazi symbols are not even allowed in some computer games, yet u can buy a communist t-shirt on any high street. There are greater powers at work here than me and you mate.

As I am not able to view videos at this time, and am not in a position to purchase a book and await its arrival in order to continue this discussion, I beg your indulgence and say again: To what end would the Western Allies perpetuation of a fictional Holocaust serve?

I'm not interested in BBC censoring comments, or the legality of the swastika vs. communist t-shirts. Those are diversions from the issue at hand. I want to know what the Western Allies gain/have gained through the alleged Holocaust fiction.

[MH]

Originally Posted by conspiracy_theory

Well you can read a book called the holocaust industry, actually written by a jew, apart from that, i'd say that watch that vid i sent you and all will become clear. I mean you tell me why the bbc censored the comments on this story. Why nazi symbols are not even allowed in some computer games, yet u can buy a communist t-shirt on any high street. There are greater powers at work here than me and you mate.And why is it illegal in Europe to publicly deny or question the holocaust? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_ag...locaust_denial I think this shows they have something to hide.

a vid on the guy who wrote the holocaust industry,but watch the other vid...amazing stuff.

Good stuff.

[Raptor1]

Originally Posted by conspiracy_theory

I think you maybe a little misled my friend. Can you show me where in mein kampf where it mentions exterminating anybody.

Whether something is or isn't explicitly written in Mein Kampf hardly matters, does it? Mein Kampf isn't the complete guide to Nazi atrocities, it's just the ideological basis of it.

Originally Posted by conspiracy_theory

After the war, in all the records the nazi's kept, they only found one peice of paper that mentioned the extermination of jews, written in poor German.

Oh? Do you have a source for that? I've seen and heard about quite a few documents that detail it.

Originally Posted by conspiracy_theory

Btw, there are a few alternative documentaries on the so called "death camps",worth a watch if , like me, you are into all this conspiracy stuff.One of the interesting things they show is how shallow the water table is at auswitch,so so much for the stories of thousands of people being burnt is massive pits...of water??? lol, plus how much heat would it take to burn thousands of bodies in an open pit?

Indeed, it's a good thing the Nazis had built extensive crematoriums there to do the job then, isn't it?

Originally Posted by conspiracy_theory

But the most eye opening vid you will ever see is a video with David Irving,who was untill he wrote a book called Hitlers war (which he researched for 10 years) ,one of the worlds most trusted and celebrated historians. The problem with his book was, there was nothing on the holocaust in it. He told his jewish publishers, it was because he found no evidence of one, and after refusing to make it up as they told him to do, they pulled his book.

But if you are into hating nazi's, he does mention a lot of sick things they did actually do.

Trusted and celebrated historians? Let's see...

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Irving's reputation as an historian was widely discredited after he brought an unsuccessful libel case against the American historian Deborah Lipstadt and Penguin Books. The court found that Irving was an active Holocaust denier, antisemite, and racist, who "associates with right-wing extremists who promote neo-Nazism," and that he had "for his own ideological reasons persistently and deliberately misrepresented and manipulated historical evidence."

But that's all part of the conspiracy, yes?

How do i know lol,i just like conspiracies.

It could be said that it is because the poeple that run our western countries,the same people that made Britain go to war over Poland???, and then let Russia have it for free, have had something to gain from it, as the book the holocaust industry says,the U.S.A alone gives Israel the equivilent of $40,000 per Israely every year Beacause of the holocaust, god knows why.

Also, with the capitalists on one side and the communists on the other, they do not want a new power like national socialism getting in their way for world domination. So they make it very unattractive, even illegal.

The russians admitted after the fall of the berlin wall, that they built the smoke stacks at Auschwitz after the war, and if you watch the alternative tour of Auschwitz on google, you can see that they are not even connected to anything.

Originally Posted by Growler

As I am not able to view videos at this time, and am not in a position to purchase a book and await its arrival in order to continue this discussion, I beg your indulgence and say again: To what end would the Western Allies perpetuation of a fictional Holocaust serve?

I'm not interested in BBC censoring comments, or the legality of the swastika vs. communist t-shirts. Those are diversions from the issue at hand. I want to know what the Western Allies gain/have gained through the alleged Holocaust fiction.

[MH]

Originally Posted by conspiracy_theory

The russians admitted after the fall of the berlin wall, that they built the smoke stacks at Auschwitz after the war, and if you watch the alternative tour of Auschwitz on google, you can see that they are not even connected to anything.

So what was really going on there-that is in Auschwitz?

[Krauter]

Originally Posted by conspiracy_theory

The russians admitted after the fall of the berlin wall, that they built the smoke stacks at Auschwitz after the war, and if you watch the alternative tour of Auschwitz on google, you can see that they are not even connected to anything.

Auschwitz wasn't closed after the war....

The Communists and Stalin used the German concentration and death camps as their own after the war to imprison German POWs and undesirables.

[KaptCosper]

I do believe there was a holocaust, but what i really want to know.. is why Hess killed himself at 93.. I would have just finished the sentence

[quote] Oh? Do you have a source for that? I've seen and heard about quite a few documents that detail it.

You've actually seen them?

[quote]Indeed, it's a good thing the Nazis had built extensive crematoriums there to do the job then, isn't it?

i've just googled them,a regualr size crematorium
,in which they burnt 1000's per day? It takes hours for one body to burn.


If you google death camps,you will see 1000's of jewish websites telling us all about the holocaust.But why it is illegal to deny or question it publicly??? I think that says it all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_ag...locaust_denial

[Feuer Frei!]

There is indeed something to be said about the reasons why we are not allowed to question what happened in the past.
It is a crime to question anything that was the Holocaust.
Or so the law says.
I say, what good does that do to the plea of freedom of speech and the freedom to always search for truth and justice?
Why is it a crime to seek these things?
I can understand it being a crime to deny something that occurred or to use parts of history for advocating violence and attrocities in today's society.
Using historie's tools of worship and ideologies of crimes and acts against humanity.
However, is this the only reason why free man cannot question the past?
What does that mean to me? It means that i am not able to think for myself. I am given information about an occurrance in the past and i am told that if i do not believe it and that if i openly question this event that i am acting against the law.
Am i alluding or alleging conspiracy here?
No, but i think it is inherently wrong for man to not be able to seek questions to answers or to wonder and research parts of history without upsetting certain parts of society.

[Krauter]

Originally Posted by conspiracy_theory

Oh? Do you have a source for that? I've seen and heard about quite a few documents that detail it.

You've actually seen them?

Indeed, it's a good thing the Nazis had built extensive crematoriums there to do the job then, isn't it?

i've just googled them,a regualr size crematorium
,in which the burnt 1000's per day? It takes hours for one body to burn.


If you google death camps,you will see 1000's of jewish websites telling us all about the holocaust.But why it is illegal deny or question it publicly??? I think that says it all.

Source for what? The crematoriums? Well aside from pictures like this:

http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvi...orium-mini.GIF
and
http://www.ushmm.org/lcmedia/photo/lc/image/03/0315.jpg

Also, who else would write about the Holocaust? The Russians, Americans, French? Christians? They weren't in death camps. The Jews was. So isn't it logical for them to write about it? Or does Logic escape you?



For more about what this guy thinks was a freaking tea party : http://isurvived.org/Holocaust-definition.html

Edit:

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

What does that mean to me? It means that i am not able to think for myself. I am given information about an occurrance in the past and i am told that if i do not believe it and that if i openly question this event that i am acting against the law.
Am i alluding or alleging conspiracy here?
No, but i think it is inherently wrong for man to not be able to seek questions to answers or to wonder and research parts of history without upsetting certain parts of society.

I'm not for censoring the information, but when you blatantly disregard the facts and testimonials of people who were both there, both on the receiving and giving end, then that's just stupid. It's blatantly spitting in the face of those who survived and those who died.

[Growler]

Originally Posted by conspiracy_theory

How do i know lol,i just like conspiracies.

It could be said that it is because the poeple that run our western countries,the same people that made Britain go to war over Poland???, and then let Russia have it for free, have had something to gain from it, as the book the holocaust industry says,the U.S.A alone gives Israel the equivilent of $40,000 per Israely every year Beacause of the holocaust, god knows why.

Also, with the capitalists on one side and the communists on the other, they do not want a new power like national socialism getting in their way for world domination. So they make it very unattractive, even illegal.

The russians admitted after the fall of the berlin wall, that they built the smoke stacks at Auschwitz after the war, and if you watch the alternative tour of Auschwitz on google, you can see that they are not even connected to anything.

So if I'm understanding you correctly, it's the Western Allies play for global domination that created the myth of the Holocaust; a myth further promulgated by the support of the Israelis to the tune of ~$40K/annum/person. So, basically, the Holocaust isn't a Western Allies' construction, it is a construction of the Jews, perpetuated through the Western Allies, with the goal of global domination by the Jews. Am understanding correctly?

I don't understand how a pro-Jewish global conspiracy would have Britain go to war over Poland - and Polish Jews - only to cede that nation to Soviet control, whereupon profession of any faith - especially Jewish faith - was as likely to lead to death as it was in Nazi Germany.

[MH]

"The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it."
Mengele

...........

Your post illustrates my point,they had a normal ammount of crematoria,no other way of getting rid of the millions they suggest.

And my point on the jewish websites was, some people say, the reason we are not allowed by law (now think about that statement) to deny or question the holocaust is that it is too upsetting for jews,when its all they bloody talk about.

Originally Posted by Krauter

Source for what? The crematoriums? Well aside from pictures like this:

http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvi...orium-mini.GIF
and
http://www.ushmm.org/lcmedia/photo/lc/image/03/0315.jpg

Also, who else would write about the Holocaust? The Russians, Americans, French? Christians? They weren't in death camps. The Jews was. So isn't it logical for them to write about it? Or does Logic escape you?



For more about what this guy thinks was a freaking tea party : http://isurvived.org/Holocaust-definition.html