Today on 9 May "Europe Day"

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Betonov

I'll drink to that. People of the old world, our star may be shinning a bit dimmer, but she is stil shining

Skybird, leave the bad EU politics for tommorow, have a Bier und Pretzel and celebrate, it's afterall Europe Day (not EU day)

If it is about Europe, why is it that the flags everywherre show the EU symbol? Those twelve stars on blue ground are the official EU symbology. There is no Europe flag or symbol independent from that that I know of.

BTW, why is it that foreigners always say "Pretzel"? It is a "Bretzel", with a soft B. And no, I do not like them a bit.

Like most Germans also do not like "Sauerkraut".

So, now I am triple-pissed. Bäh!

[Respenus]

Originally Posted by Skybird

If it is about Europe, why is it that the flags everywherre show the EU symbol? Those twelve stars on blue ground are the official EU symbology. There is no Europe flag or symbol independent from that that I know of.

Cough, cough, Sky. Don't say I haven't warned you lot in advance about making non-substantial claims. It is true that Europe Day is linked to Bert Schuman and his declaration and so more to the EU than to the Council of Europe, but the flag was used by the later a good 30 years before the former decided to do so. In any case I do agree that there are many things that still need to be said and agreed upon concerning the EU, not all of the pleasant, at least for our political leaders and it the end, for ourselves.

[Betonov]

Come on Sky Have a beer and a saltstick then don't be a sauerpuss if you don't like Sauerkraut. I'll bring you some zaseka* and dry sausage.
It's Europe day, next week will have America day. Any excuse for a celebration in these troublesome times. Leave the politics in the trashbin until tommorow.
Respensus, you bring cevapcici* and ajvar* and I'll bring the spring onions and potatoes and we'll have a Subsim Europe day celebration at Skybird, to cheer him up. Everyone else bring the drinks



* zaseka, cevapcici and ajvar, popular food in our parts, no picnic is complete without cevapcici and ajvar

[Skybird]

I do not care what the flag once meant, but what it is used for TODAY. and today it is the official representing emblem of the EU institution. Also, the talk of today that I fetched up when being in town or reading newspaper, is not so much about a Europe independently seen from the EU, but the EU itself, and the conflictz between "Europe" and "EU".

That is the travesty I am complaining about: the the EU actually claims to be Europe, and that there cannot be a Europe without the EU managing it, and that it was the EU only that brought peace and freedom to Europe, which is the most hilarious of all their claims. Peace and freedom there have com in the ewake of WWII, the American presence, the Soviet threat, and the existence of NATO. Trading relations between countries that already bnefore had closer ties, had little to do wtih it.

There is nothing to celebrate today, but to cry about: the loss of democratic principles, the destruction of Europe, the erposion of freedom, the explicit ignoring of people'S will in many European countries by the EU, the cruel joke the currency has proven to turn into, and the establishing of an economic plutocracy in Europe that is been put there at the cost of the ordinary people.

To hell with this EU. A greeting to our neighjbours, and a wholeheartly toast to the EU falling-apart. May it happen before it is all being turned into a total and irreversible mess completely. Cheers!

[Raptor1]

Originally Posted by Skybird

BTW, why is it that foreigners always say "Pretzel"? It is a "Bretzel", with a soft B. And no, I do not like them a bit.

Probably has to do with the fact it is spelled with a P in English...

[Respenus]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Respensus, you bring cevapcici* and ajvar* and I'll bring the spring onions and potatoes and we'll have a Subsim Europe day celebration at Skybird, to cheer him up. Everyone else bring the drinks

Don't forget about lepinja, burek, kotleti, pecenica and other goodies. Why don't we prepare a truly European menu for Sky in order to make him feel better? @Betonov: Preklet bodi, sedaj pa sem prišel na okus in sem postal lacen. In to v tujini kjer nimajo nasih dobrot!

Sky, I cannot claim to fully understand how you feel about the EU, yet I share many of your concerns and fully support you (in certain regards) in your critique. The EU isn't perfect, nor are our national states, who in fact, have CREATED and still (to a certain extent) CONTROL the functioning of the European institutions. I'm guessing that taking a piss on the markets and rating agencies would do wonder for social democracy in Europe. On the other hand, the Commission has a nasty habit of getting its "experts" from the industry, who of course, are always very friendly and suggest only what is the best for the European citizen...Damn, now I'm depressed. In the end sky, I worry with you, but I'm still young and not that bitter. Yet...

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Respenus

Don't forget about lepinja, burek, kotleti, pecenica and other goodies. Why don't we prepare a truly European menu for Sky in order to make him feel better? @Betonov: Preklet bodi, sedaj pa sem prišel na okus in sem postal lacen. In to v tujini kjer nimajo nasih dobrot!

Pecenica gives me heart-burn, but then there's potica and prekmurska gibanica and prsut... mmmmmmm

To all the foreigners on the forum, the slovenian conversation after @Betonov is Respensus sending me to hell for making him hungry

[Skybird]

Please, low glycaemic carbonhydrates for me only, protein, a bit of white meat and more of fish, fruits and raw vegetables. I need to slim down a bit... Less beer (a concession to summer temperature, else it would be: no beer), less wine, less bread and crop, no fat steak or sausage, no pasta, no potatoes, no rice, no chocolates, chips or sweets - all the things that make life tasting a bit better I have declared verboten currently.

[Jaguar]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Please, low glycaemic carbonhydrates for me only, protein, a bit of white meat and more of fish, fruits and raw vegetables. I need to slim down a bit... Less beer (a concession to summer temperature, else it would be: no beer), less wine, less bread and crop, no fat steak or sausage, no pasta, no potatoes, no rice, no chocolates, chips or sweets - all the things that make life tasting a bit better I have declared verboten currently.

Dang mate! No wonder you look so pessimistic. Good luck with the diet

[Skybird]

Life doesn't love me currently.

But the diet works, and very well.

Unfortunately. Else I would have the needed excuse to kick it.

[Respenus]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Please, low glycaemic carbonhydrates for me only, protein, a bit of white meat and more of fish, fruits and raw vegetables. I need to slim down a bit... Less beer (a concession to summer temperature, else it would be: no beer), less wine, less bread and crop, no fat steak or sausage, no pasta, no potatoes, no rice, no chocolates, chips or sweets - all the things that make life tasting a bit better I have declared verboten currently.

By the merciful Gods! I weep for you Sky. My doctor said the same thing (well, alcohol excluded since I don't drink), but I gave him a shifty look and said of course. I've said it many times, although it is far from rational: I'd rather die happy on a full stomach, than gain a couple of years and be miserable due the diet. Foolishness of a young man, you might say. Wisdom of a gourmand say I.

[Jaguar]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Life doesn't love me currently.
But the diet works, and very well.
Unfortunately. Else I would have the needed excuse to kick it.

Some consolation then.

I talked these days with a portuguese friend, the current crisis has put lots of stress on EU and its bureaucracy doesn´t seems to be making the right choices.

[Jaguar]

Originally Posted by Respenus

Foolishness of a young man, you might say. Wisdom of a gourmand say I.

Say this when you get closer to 60 .

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Please, low glycaemic carbonhydrates for me only, protein, a bit of white meat and more of fish, fruits and raw vegetables. I need to slim down a bit... Less beer (a concession to summer temperature, else it would be: no beer), less wine, less bread and crop, no fat steak or sausage, no pasta, no potatoes, no rice, no chocolates, chips or sweets - all the things that make life tasting a bit better I have declared verboten currently.

So why are you on hunger strike then?

[MH]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Please, low glycaemic carbonhydrates for me only, protein, a bit of white meat and more of fish, fruits and raw vegetables. I need to slim down a bit... Less beer (a concession to summer temperature, else it would be: no beer), less wine, less bread and crop, no fat steak or sausage, no pasta, no potatoes, no rice, no chocolates, chips or sweets - all the things that make life tasting a bit better I have declared verboten currently.

Next step is fotosinteze-the ultimate diet.