Bin Laden is dead, official

[TLAM Strike]

Anyone see the chopper we lost was some new yet unreported type?

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

What the US should have done: well prior to capturing Osama, or killing him, they should have fenced off several hundred acres in central Afghanistan, some area that is easy to access. They should have constructed a huge concrete mausoleum, and then kept it secret and guarded until the day the got Obama, er, Osama, sorry. Then they could bury Osama's body in the mausoleum and annouced out of respect to Islam, they would allow a pilgrimage one time a year.




Then after the 4th or 5th year when the attendance was really high, blow up the shrine and all the supporters in attendance.

No way, he has already become a martyr to some, shall we go back strap a half years, so maybe it could come true, I was in Pakistan last year, and there was no pleasure trip directly, but to see his face to mine, had been the top, and I promise that the outcome had been different

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

What the US should have done: well prior to capturing Osama, or killing him, they should have fenced off several hundred acres in central Afghanistan, some area that is easy to access. They should have constructed a huge concrete mausoleum, and then kept it secret and guarded until the day the got Obama, er, Osama, sorry. Then they could bury Osama's body in the mausoleum and annouced out of respect to Islam, they would allow a pilgrimage one time a year.




Then after the 4th or 5th year when the attendance was really high, blow up the shrine and all the supporters in attendance.

Need one more item....make it pay-per-view when the bomb drops and solve the national debt!

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

What the US should have done: well prior to capturing Osama, or killing him, they should have fenced off several hundred acres in central Afghanistan, some area that is easy to access. They should have constructed a huge concrete mausoleum, and then kept it secret and guarded until the day the got Obama, er, Osama, sorry. Then they could bury Osama's body in the mausoleum and annouced out of respect to Islam, they would allow a pilgrimage one time a year.




Then after the 4th or 5th year when the attendance was really high, blow up the shrine and all the supporters in attendance.

I like it!

Im borrowing that

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Anyone see the chopper we lost was some new yet unreported type?

American property!

[MaddogK]

This gets more interesting by the minute: now its 4 helos ?
The seals were from Bagram (in Afghanistan), but the exit was to the Arabian sea- right down the center of the Pakistani country ? Or did they fly back to Afghanistan, fly the length of the country and fly back over pakistan enroute to the Carl Vinson, or make a bee-line to Indian airspace and fly south to the Arabian sea.



I find it hard to believe a Chinook wasn't picked up by Paki air defenses.

[Gargamel]

Yay!

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Biggles

Osama is dead or captured/soon dead. There is no way that they'd publish news of his demise and funeral at sea if there was even a glimmer of a chance for him to contact the outer world and prove them wrong. That would be the death sentence of any government, and noone is foolish enough to take that risk.

Exactly! It's quite easy to disprove false death claims: just wave into the cam and say: "Hey guys, I'm alive and kicking!"

If Obama would have staged it, imo the better time would be either before the mid-term elections or before the primaries. Now is not really the best time, voters tend to forget very fast.

Originally Posted by Skybird

I also say that it is hilarious what debates are now being waged over the morality of killing Bin Laden and whether or not it is legitimate for a democracy to kill an enemy. Every Western government kills when the police hunts down a gangster and he starts to shoot at the police. But one of the worst gangster of the past two decade suddenly should represent the exception? Democracies have the right to kill their enemies in self-defence or prevention of these enemies committing such disastrous crimes like Al Quaeda did. It needs a truly decadent society to start a debate about the legality of this, really.

Nope, it's not a sign of a decadent society, but the sign that we don't live in a police state where people do not question decisions of the government. You may not agree with those people, this doesn't mean that a discussion is not legitimate - even if they have no good point

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I also say that it is hilarious what debates are now being waged over the morality of killing Bin Laden and whether or not it is legitimate for a democracy to kill an enemy. Every Western government kills when the police hunts down a gangster and he starts to shoot at the police. But one of the worst gangster of the past two decade suddenly should represent the exception? Democracies have the right to kill their enemies in self-defence or prevention of these enemies committing such disastrous crimes like Al Quaeda did. It needs a truly decadent society to start a debate about the legality of this, really.

In this case barely, if you have two goals in front of you, you know that both do not hesitate to kill, they like it, who do you choose? Or would you go back, then you have two targets that are in your vicinity, therefore no soul defense situation, how would you act, plan and proceed with the slopes or you, for in both cases they are potent killers and do not care about you, you are only in their statistics, one in the crowd, of course, have to measure, but a debate like that in this case is ridiculous

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

What the US should have done: well prior to capturing Osama, or killing him, they should have fenced off several hundred acres in central Afghanistan, some area that is easy to access. They should have constructed a huge concrete mausoleum, and then kept it secret and guarded until the day the got Obama, er, Osama, sorry. Then they could bury Osama's body in the mausoleum and annouced out of respect to Islam, they would allow a pilgrimage one time a year.




Then after the 4th or 5th year when the attendance was really high, blow up the shrine and all the supporters in attendance.

Priceless!!

[tater]

The gang that can't shoot straight.

For all the talk a couple years ago about the media-savvy Obama, they screw up at least as much if not more than W.

OBL was armed, and using a woman as a shield... turns out no human shield, and OBL was completely unarmed. Initial reports from the admin were "a 40 minute firefight." Instead it was 40 minutes total. Probably under 5 were violence (the whole point of special teams trained for "violence of action"), and the rest was carting away intel and leaving. Way to feed the loons, morons. This is all stuff they should have been sure of before leaking. The "firefight" stuff helps them vs claims of extra-judicial killing (with the left, since they seem to care about AQ's "rights"), but it also paints a picture for AQ supporters of dear leader going out in a blaze of glory over an extended firefight. Instead he was killed in his jammies, unarmed---likely within seconds to a handful of minutes from hearing helos. No strong death for that soldier of allah, he died like the women AQ is fond of murdering.

Just wish the WH had gotten their ducks in a row to help keep the conspiracy loons and OBL supporters at bay.

[Ducimus]

Link?

[tater]

The retraction on the human shield, etc, is everywhere.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54162.html

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...den-narrative/

etc, ad nauseum.

Was in the press conference today.

[tater]

Or these:

http://www.cnn.com/

http://abcnews.go.com/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

(top story on virtually all news pages)

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Vendor

In this case barely, if you have two goals in front of you, you know that both do not hesitate to kill, they like it, who do you choose? Or would you go back, then you have two targets that are in your vicinity, therefore no soul defense situation, how would you act, plan and proceed with the slopes or you, for in both cases they are potent killers and do not care about you, you are only in their statistics, one in the crowd, of course, have to measure, but a debate like that in this case is ridiculous

W-w-woot...??
Oh my, pardon...!? I must admit I have no clue of what you try to say here!