Bin Laden is dead, official - Page 6

Feuer Frei! · 05-02-11, 07:13 AM

Never thought i'd see the day.
So what now? This will not be the end of al-Qaeda. Unfortunately.

Gerald · 05-02-11, 07:17 AM

No, it's just the beginning, these terrorist cells, growing up like mushrooms over empires, but this may change the political benefits for Obama

Oberon · 05-02-11, 07:17 AM

Well bugger me. I didn't think I'd see this day. Well done America, good job!

There's going to be a lot of questions to ask after this, particularly after he was sitting in a nice house right next door to Pakistans Military Academy. There is also going to be a lot more attacks in Europe and the US over the coming months, so we'll have to hunker down and be ready for them. For now though, today is a good day.

Armistead · 05-02-11, 07:24 AM

Osama is really not a tactical player anymore, just a figurehead. We may see a rise in terror, but the fact is the group is spread and multilayered now. Anytime you shut down the owner, all the managers go into business for themselves. They're always planning attacks, him dead doesn't change anything except they may try some sooner, but that will also expose other top leaders.

We should do like biblical days, cut his head off and run it up a flag pole at the World Trade Center site

Torplexed · 05-02-11, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead

Osama is really not a tactical player anymore, just a figurehead. We may see a rise in terror, but the fact is the group is spread and multilayered now. Anytime you shut down the owner, all the managers go into business for themselves. They're always planning attacks, him dead doesn't change anything except they may try some sooner, but that will also expose other top leaders.

We should do like biblical days, cut his head off and run it up a flag pole at the World Trade Center site

Indeed. Bin Laden's heir apparent, Ayman al-Zawahri, is a harsh, divisive figure who lacks the mystique that bin Laden used to hold together Al-Qaida's various factions. So, probably the greatest terrorist threat to the U.S. is now the newer and more energetic Al-Qaida franchise in Yemen, far from their current core in Pakistan. Like Hamas and Hezbollah they will keep morphing.

But I'll still enjoy the moment.

Armistead · 05-02-11, 07:40 AM

The news just said Osama was buried at sea, not sure why and I have my doubts... Seems a lil early.

If so, guess fish gotta eat same as worms...

Either way, fish shiat is as good as worm shiat...

Feuer Frei! · 05-02-11, 07:41 AM

It was the strategic thinking and the organisational skills of his Egyptian right hand man, Ayman al-Zawahri, that kept the terror network together after the United States invaded Afghanistan in 2001 and pushed al-Qaeda out.With bin Laden killed, al-Zawahri becomes the top candidate for the world's top terror job.
It's too early to tell how exactly al-Qaeda would change with its founder and supreme mentor gone, but the group under al-Zawahri would likely be further radicalised, unleashing a new wave of attacks to avenge bin Laden's killing by US troops in Pakistan on Monday to send a message that it's business as usual.
Al-Zawahri's extremist views and his readiness to use deadly violence are beyond doubt.
In a 2001 treatise, Knights Under the Prophet's Banner, he set down the long term strategy for the jihadi movement - to inflict "as many casualties as possible" on the Americans, while trying to establish control in a nation as a base "to launch the battle to restore the holy caliphate" of Islamic rule across the Muslim world.
Unlike bin Laden who found his Jihadist calling as an adult, al-Zawahri's activism began when he was in his mid teens, establishing his first secret cell of high school students to oppose the Egyptian government of then President Anwar Sadat he viewed as infidel for not following the rule of God.
The doors of jihad opened for him when, as a young doctor, a visitor came to him with an offer to travel to Afghanistan to treat Islamic fighters battling Soviet forces. His 1980 trip to the Afghan war zone - only a few months long but the first of many - opened his eyes to a whole new world of possibilities.
What he saw there, he was to write 20 years later, was "the training course preparing Muslim mujahideen youth to launch their upcoming battle with the great power that would rule the world: America."
The bond between al-Zawahri and bin Laden began in the late 1980s, when al-Zawahri reportedly treated the Saudi millionaire-turned-jihadist in the caves of Afghanistan as Soviet bombardment shook the mountains around them. The friendship laid the foundation for the al-Qaeda terror network, which carried out the September 11, 2001 suicide airplane hijackings that sparked the US invasion of Afghanistan later that year.
The attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon made bin Laden Enemy No. 1 to the US. But he likely could never have carried it out without al-Zawahri. Bin Laden provided al-Qaeda with the charisma and money, but al-Zawahri brought the ideological fire, tactics and organisational skills needed to forge disparate militants into a network of cells in countries around the world.
"Al-Zawahri was always bin Laden's mentor, bin Laden always looked up to him," says terrorism expert Bruce Hoffman of Georgetown University.
While bin Laden came from a privileged background in a prominent Saudi family of Yemeni descent, al-Zawahri had the experience of a revolutionary in the trenches.
"He spent time in an Egyptian prison, he was tortured. He was a jihadi from the time he was a teenager, he has been fighting his whole life and that has shaped his world view," Hoffman says.
Perhaps even more significant than al-Zawahri's role before the 9/11 attacks was his task afterward, when the 2001 US invasion of Afghanistan demolished al-Qaeda's safe haven and scattered, killed and captured its fighters and leaders. The blow was personal as well - al-Zawahri's wife and at least two of their six children were killed in a US air strike in the southern Afghan city of Kandahar.

Sounds like life will go on for these characters.

Gerald · 05-02-11, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

The news just said Osama was buried at sea, not sure why and I have my doubts... Seems a lil early.

If so, guess fish gotta eat same as worms...

Either way, fish shiat is as good as worm shiat...

Pisces is certainly blessed by the Al-Qaeda or any other religious sect pro ... It's best to strike while the iron is hot..

Biggles · 05-02-11, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

Best conspiracy theory of the day goes to one bloke who reckoned that it was the CIA who hacked into the Playstation network to get Bin Laden's address, as he was a big player of Call of Duty: Black Ops!

Best post of the day!

Feuer Frei! · 05-02-11, 08:04 AM

So what about the conspiracy theories?
Are we to absolutely, undeniably believe the American Government on this?
Irrefutable proof? Facial recognition was done. An autopsy was conducted. Allegedly.
The body buried at sea. Very quickly. There seems to be some "pictures or it didn't happen" going on.
There are also reports that the picture officially posted is a fake.
So then...
are we to believe what we are told? Just putting it out there.
I for one don't believe everything i read.

Armistead · 05-02-11, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

It was the strategic thinking and the organisational skills of his Egyptian right hand man, Ayman al-Zawahri, that kept the terror network together after the United States invaded Afghanistan in 2001 and pushed al-Qaeda out.With bin Laden killed, al-Zawahri becomes the top candidate for the world's top terror job.
It's too early to tell how exactly al-Qaeda would change with its founder and supreme mentor gone, but the group under al-Zawahri would likely be further radicalised, unleashing a new wave of attacks to avenge bin Laden's killing by US troops in Pakistan on Monday to send a message that it's business as usual.
Al-Zawahri's extremist views and his readiness to use deadly violence are beyond doubt.
In a 2001 treatise, Knights Under the Prophet's Banner, he set down the long term strategy for the jihadi movement - to inflict "as many casualties as possible" on the Americans, while trying to establish control in a nation as a base "to launch the battle to restore the holy caliphate" of Islamic rule across the Muslim world.
Unlike bin Laden who found his Jihadist calling as an adult, al-Zawahri's activism began when he was in his mid teens, establishing his first secret cell of high school students to oppose the Egyptian government of then President Anwar Sadat he viewed as infidel for not following the rule of God.
The doors of jihad opened for him when, as a young doctor, a visitor came to him with an offer to travel to Afghanistan to treat Islamic fighters battling Soviet forces. His 1980 trip to the Afghan war zone - only a few months long but the first of many - opened his eyes to a whole new world of possibilities.
What he saw there, he was to write 20 years later, was "the training course preparing Muslim mujahideen youth to launch their upcoming battle with the great power that would rule the world: America."
The bond between al-Zawahri and bin Laden began in the late 1980s, when al-Zawahri reportedly treated the Saudi millionaire-turned-jihadist in the caves of Afghanistan as Soviet bombardment shook the mountains around them. The friendship laid the foundation for the al-Qaeda terror network, which carried out the September 11, 2001 suicide airplane hijackings that sparked the US invasion of Afghanistan later that year.
The attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon made bin Laden Enemy No. 1 to the US. But he likely could never have carried it out without al-Zawahri. Bin Laden provided al-Qaeda with the charisma and money, but al-Zawahri brought the ideological fire, tactics and organisational skills needed to forge disparate militants into a network of cells in countries around the world.
"Al-Zawahri was always bin Laden's mentor, bin Laden always looked up to him," says terrorism expert Bruce Hoffman of Georgetown University.
While bin Laden came from a privileged background in a prominent Saudi family of Yemeni descent, al-Zawahri had the experience of a revolutionary in the trenches.
"He spent time in an Egyptian prison, he was tortured. He was a jihadi from the time he was a teenager, he has been fighting his whole life and that has shaped his world view," Hoffman says.
Perhaps even more significant than al-Zawahri's role before the 9/11 attacks was his task afterward, when the 2001 US invasion of Afghanistan demolished al-Qaeda's safe haven and scattered, killed and captured its fighters and leaders. The blow was personal as well - al-Zawahri's wife and at least two of their six children were killed in a US air strike in the southern Afghan city of Kandahar.

Sounds like life will go on for these characters.

Sure it will, but we still kill them. My guess is they could pull of some bad stuff anytime they wanted, but timing is everything. With all the pressure on now, they're just sitting on the sidelines rebuilding and planning. If they go ahead and do some terror acts, it changes nothing.

We should be hunting these murderers like a southern hound, kill them anywhere and those that support them, with or without notice. I'm to the point with them let's get Old Testament on them, kill the men, women breeders and kids, make the land barren, it's just an indoctrinated generational cycle of terror, wipe it from the earth. Make it so bad for those that partake in it that they and their supporters would be afraid to even think it.

This is what we should do, not all these other stupid wars against those that didn't attack us.

I'm proud of Obama, he went and got him in another country and didn't ask their permission, wait for legal approval, etc.. Sad Clinton had him in the crosshairs and couldn't pull the trigger, Bush, too busy with starting another war...

Obama did what Bush could not.....He's a shoe in next election..

Armistead · 05-02-11, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

So what about the conspiracy theories?
Are we to absolutely, undeniably believe the American Government on this?
Irrefutable proof? Facial recognition was done. An autopsy was conducted. Allegedly.
The body buried at sea. Very quickly. There seems to be some "pictures or it didn't happen" going on.
There are also reports that the picture officially posted is a fake.
So then...
are we to believe what we are told? Just putting it out there.
I for one don't believe everything i read.

You really think he is buried at sea, that's the only conspiracy theory.
He's being poked on in some lab as we speak..Probably hide him in area 51 with his twin brother.

Rockstar · 05-02-11, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead

The news just said Osama was buried at sea, not sure why and I have my doubts... Seems a lil early.

If so, guess fish gotta eat same as worms...

Either way, fish shiat is as good as worm shiat...

I can think of two reasons. 1st people of his religion believe they should be returned to the earth when they die. Secondly nobody can dig him up.

Ding dong the witch is dead

Kpt. Lehmann · 05-02-11, 08:43 AM

Without a doubt, there will be more brainwashed scum wanting to step into Bin Ladin's shoes, and more attacks by terrorists in days to come...

... and today's events will, without a doubt be debated until we all draw our last breath...

... and the tree of freedom will no doubt be further nourished with the blood of brave soldiers and citizens...

HOWEVER, Bin Ladin did not escape. Today, good prevailed over evil.

To all men and women who serve the cause of freedom, and their communities, THANK YOU!

TODAY... IS A GOOD DAY!!!

Kpt. Lehmann · 05-02-11, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamoz

There is no good and evil, if only things were that simple...

I'm not going to be sucked into a debate on morality with an anarchist.

Executing Bin Laden was the right thing to do... and even that doesn't BEGIN to make up for what he did.

You know right from wrong.

05-02-11, 07:13 AM	#76
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	Never thought i'd see the day. So what now? This will not be the end of al-Qaeda. Unfortunately. __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

05-02-11, 07:17 AM	#77
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	No, it's just the beginning, these terrorist cells, growing up like mushrooms over empires, but this may change the political benefits for Obama __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

05-02-11, 07:41 AM	#82
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	It was the strategic thinking and the organisational skills of his Egyptian right hand man, Ayman al-Zawahri, that kept the terror network together after the United States invaded Afghanistan in 2001 and pushed al-Qaeda out.With bin Laden killed, al-Zawahri becomes the top candidate for the world's top terror job. It's too early to tell how exactly al-Qaeda would change with its founder and supreme mentor gone, but the group under al-Zawahri would likely be further radicalised, unleashing a new wave of attacks to avenge bin Laden's killing by US troops in Pakistan on Monday to send a message that it's business as usual. Al-Zawahri's extremist views and his readiness to use deadly violence are beyond doubt. In a 2001 treatise, Knights Under the Prophet's Banner, he set down the long term strategy for the jihadi movement - to inflict "as many casualties as possible" on the Americans, while trying to establish control in a nation as a base "to launch the battle to restore the holy caliphate" of Islamic rule across the Muslim world. Unlike bin Laden who found his Jihadist calling as an adult, al-Zawahri's activism began when he was in his mid teens, establishing his first secret cell of high school students to oppose the Egyptian government of then President Anwar Sadat he viewed as infidel for not following the rule of God. The doors of jihad opened for him when, as a young doctor, a visitor came to him with an offer to travel to Afghanistan to treat Islamic fighters battling Soviet forces. His 1980 trip to the Afghan war zone - only a few months long but the first of many - opened his eyes to a whole new world of possibilities. What he saw there, he was to write 20 years later, was "the training course preparing Muslim mujahideen youth to launch their upcoming battle with the great power that would rule the world: America." The bond between al-Zawahri and bin Laden began in the late 1980s, when al-Zawahri reportedly treated the Saudi millionaire-turned-jihadist in the caves of Afghanistan as Soviet bombardment shook the mountains around them. The friendship laid the foundation for the al-Qaeda terror network, which carried out the September 11, 2001 suicide airplane hijackings that sparked the US invasion of Afghanistan later that year. The attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon made bin Laden Enemy No. 1 to the US. But he likely could never have carried it out without al-Zawahri. Bin Laden provided al-Qaeda with the charisma and money, but al-Zawahri brought the ideological fire, tactics and organisational skills needed to forge disparate militants into a network of cells in countries around the world. "Al-Zawahri was always bin Laden's mentor, bin Laden always looked up to him," says terrorism expert Bruce Hoffman of Georgetown University. While bin Laden came from a privileged background in a prominent Saudi family of Yemeni descent, al-Zawahri had the experience of a revolutionary in the trenches. "He spent time in an Egyptian prison, he was tortured. He was a jihadi from the time he was a teenager, he has been fighting his whole life and that has shaped his world view," Hoffman says. Perhaps even more significant than al-Zawahri's role before the 9/11 attacks was his task afterward, when the 2001 US invasion of Afghanistan demolished al-Qaeda's safe haven and scattered, killed and captured its fighters and leaders. The blow was personal as well - al-Zawahri's wife and at least two of their six children were killed in a US air strike in the southern Afghan city of Kandahar. Sounds like life will go on for these characters. __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

05-02-11, 08:04 AM	#85
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	So what about the conspiracy theories? Are we to absolutely, undeniably believe the American Government on this? Irrefutable proof? Facial recognition was done. An autopsy was conducted. Allegedly. The body buried at sea. Very quickly. There seems to be some "pictures or it didn't happen" going on. There are also reports that the picture officially posted is a fake. So then... are we to believe what we are told? Just putting it out there. I for one don't believe everything i read. __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

05-02-11, 08:43 AM	#89
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,994 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Without a doubt, there will be more brainwashed scum wanting to step into Bin Ladin's shoes, and more attacks by terrorists in days to come... ... and today's events will, without a doubt be debated until we all draw our last breath... ... and the tree of freedom will no doubt be further nourished with the blood of brave soldiers and citizens... HOWEVER, Bin Ladin did not escape. Today, good prevailed over evil. To all men and women who serve the cause of freedom, and their communities, THANK YOU! *TODAY... IS A GOOD DAY!!!* __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

05-02-11, 07:17 AM	#78
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Well bugger me. I didn't think I'd see this day. Well done America, good job! There's going to be a lot of questions to ask after this, particularly after he was sitting in a nice house right next door to Pakistans Military Academy. There is also going to be a lot more attacks in Europe and the US over the coming months, so we'll have to hunker down and be ready for them. For now though, today is a good day.

05-02-11, 07:24 AM	#79
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Osama is really not a tactical player anymore, just a figurehead. We may see a rise in terror, but the fact is the group is spread and multilayered now. Anytime you shut down the owner, all the managers go into business for themselves. They're always planning attacks, him dead doesn't change anything except they may try some sooner, but that will also expose other top leaders. We should do like biblical days, cut his head off and run it up a flag pole at the World Trade Center site

05-02-11, 07:40 AM	#81
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	The news just said Osama was buried at sea, not sure why and I have my doubts... Seems a lil early. If so, guess fish gotta eat same as worms... Either way, fish shiat is as good as worm shiat...