A Classic!

Fish40 · 04-29-11, 12:50 PM

Gentlemen, start your engines! Enjoy

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Sailor Steve · 04-29-11, 02:49 PM

Anyone who really cares already owns a copy of this classic.

Hitman · 04-29-11, 02:58 PM

I sure have one copy on my DVD shelf

BTW Gable keeps the scope up for too long on first observation like a newbie

Platapus · 04-29-11, 03:09 PM

Considering you can probably get a copy of this movie for about $5.00 why would I need youtube?

andy_311 · 04-29-11, 07:30 PM

Nice movie,.Now would anyone like to try it in game surface attack at 1500m In daylight my boat would look like swiss cheese.

Overkill · 04-29-11, 09:45 PM

Beep beeep beeep beep boooop boop boop
"What is that, sir? I can't make that out."
Beep beeep beeep beep boooop boop boop
"What is that, sir? I can't make that out."
Beep beeep beeep beep boooop boop boop
"What is that, sir? I can't make that out."

Dogfish40 · 05-03-11, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish40

Gentlemen, start your engines! Enjoy

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We had a post a while back about fav Sub movies, but I agree with you; RSRD is one of the best WW2 sub movies ever made. For all the seemingly bad mistakes Hollywood makes in the film, it does have a couple of great cuts to the TDC being updated (you can see the wheels on the TDC whirring around) and it's got it all when it comes to action and storyline. Mistakes,... sure, there are a few, but it's a great story and one that was written by a submariner. I'm glad you like this one and don't forget "Destination Tokyo". That one has grown on me as well.
Good Hunting

Daniel Prates · 05-04-11, 10:20 AM

It appears to have been shot (i'm talking 'cameras', not 'guns') inside a real fleetboat. None of that looks like scenery. Was it?

Fish40 · 05-04-11, 11:02 AM

I know the USS Redfish was used for the external shots. Not sure about the interior, but yes, it does look authentic.

Daniel Prates · 05-09-11, 10:15 AM

Not anybody might know this (i didn't), but RSRD was based on a best-selling novel. The plot is somewhat different. This is how wikipedia summons it up:

"Beach's bestselling novel of submarine warfare begins soon before the attack on Pearl Harbor. The story is ostensibly a Navy tape recording about events, as related by Richardson, resulting in his award of the Medal of Honor. An American submarine captain, Richardson is given a new boat with orders to destroy Japanese shipping in the Pacific Ocean. His executive officer and former best friend, Jim Bledsoe, is resentful because Richardson is forced to fail him after Bledsoe acts recklessly during his test for qualification for command, nearly sinking their boat. Adding to the difficulties between them, Richardson is secretly enamoured of Bledsoe's fiancee, Laura, who despises him for ruining Bledsoe's chance.
During their first war patrol in the USS Walrus, they encounter the Japanese destroyer so-called the Akikaze, whose skipper, Captain Tateo Nakame, is nicknamed "Bungo Pete" and is responsible for a series of sinkings of American submarines in the Bungo Strait, including the USS Octopus, on which Richardson served, and the USS Nerka, which had been commanded by a close friend. Richardson, wounded in a subsequent encounter with Pete, remains at Pearl Harbor while Bledsoe commands the Walrus for three war patrols. Bledsoe establishes a reputation for himself as an aggressive skipper with a good rate of sinkings. Between patrols, Bledsoe has an extramarital affair at Pearl Harbor, causing Richardson some anguish for Laura's sake. During the last of the patrols, however, Bungo Pete sinks the Walrus.
During his stint ashore, Richardson works on solving reliability problems with American torpedoes. When the news of the loss of Bledsoe and the Walrus arrives, Richardson convinces his superiors to let him return to the Bungo Strait and hunt Bungo Pete in a new submarine, USS Eel. A great battle ensues between the Eel and Bungo Pete's special anti-submarine warfare group, which consists of the Akikaze, a Q-ship, and a Japanese submarine. After sinking all three vessels, Richardson realizes that Bungo Pete and his skilled specialists will be rescued to resume their hunting, and rams the lifeboats intentionally to kill them.
Soon after the destruction of Bungo Pete, the Eel is detailed to lifeguard duty off Guam, where Richardson's actions saving three aviators earns him the Medal of Honor. After the war he returns home, expressing his hope to begin a relationship with Laura Bledsoe."

Daniel Prates · 05-09-11, 10:17 AM

This is also interesting:

"Beach served on submarines in the Pacific Ocean during the war, and this adds to the realism of the story. He composed two sequels to Run Silent, Run Deep: Dust on the Sea (1972) and Cold is the Sea (1978)."

Platapus · 05-09-11, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Prates

It appears to have been shot (i'm talking 'cameras', not 'guns') inside a real fleetboat. None of that looks like scenery. Was it?

I doubt it. The camera shots sometimes would indicate that the camera would be too close to the bulkhead. The focal length of many movie cameras need some distance that you won't get inside a real sub. Remember that Das Boot they used special cameras and special mountings to film inside the model.

Also the conning tower seems pretty roomy! As did the Captain's cabin.

And someone much smarter than I please correct me, but didn't the galley have too many benches in it?

Daniel Prates · 05-10-11, 08:45 AM

Oh yeah... 'das boot'... you know, wolfgan petersen had an entire, true-to-scale, 99% precise model of a type VII, in which the film was shot? The idea was to make the actors feel as cramped as the actual u-boat crews felt. And it shows! The model had special gearing to reproduce splashing and everything. THey could hardly fit the cameras in there. I've seen a 'making of' of this movie and the making of is as great as the movie itself.

And yeah, you're right. According to Mr. Wiki, again, an actual sub was only used for exterior shots.

"The USS Redfish was used for many of the exterior pictures"

Daniel Prates · 05-10-11, 02:11 PM

I have to insist a bit on the subject. Lookie, lookie, pictures of the mockup used in the film (das boot):

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Daniel Prates · 05-10-11, 02:13 PM

According to wikipedia's notes on production of das boot:

"The interior U-boat mock-up was mounted five metres off the floor and was shaken, rocked, and tilted up to 45 degrees by means of a hydraulic apparatus, and was vigorously shaken to simulate depth charge attacks. Petersen was admittedly obsessive about the structural detail of the U-boat set, remarking that "every screw" in the set was an authentic facsimile of the kind used in a World War II U-boat. In this he was considerably assisted by the numerous photographs Lothar-Günther Buchheim taken during his own voyage on the historical U-96, some of which had been published in his 1976 book, U-Boot-Krieg ("U-Boat War")."

04-29-11, 12:50 PM	#1
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	A Classic! Gentlemen, start your engines! Enjoy:

04-29-11, 02:49 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Anyone who really cares already owns a copy of this classic. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-29-11, 02:58 PM	#3
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	I sure have one copy on my DVD shelf BTW Gable keeps the scope up for too long on first observation like a newbie __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,362 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Considering you can probably get a copy of this movie for about $5.00 why would I need youtube? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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andy_311 The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oldham, Lancs,England Posts: 1,312 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	Nice movie,.Now would anyone like to try it in game surface attack at 1500m In daylight my boat would look like swiss cheese. __________________

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Overkill Frogman Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 302 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	Beep beeep beeep beep boooop boop boop "What is that, sir? I can't make that out." Beep beeep beeep beep boooop boop boop "What is that, sir? I can't make that out." Beep beeep beeep beep boooop boop boop "What is that, sir? I can't make that out." __________________

05-04-11, 10:20 AM	#8
Daniel Prates Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Curitiba, Brazil Posts: 938 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	It appears to have been shot (i'm talking 'cameras', not 'guns') inside a real fleetboat. None of that looks like scenery. Was it?

05-04-11, 11:02 AM	#9
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	I know the USS Redfish was used for the external shots. Not sure about the interior, but yes, it does look authentic.

05-09-11, 10:15 AM	#10
Daniel Prates Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Curitiba, Brazil Posts: 938 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Not anybody might know this (i didn't), but RSRD was based on a best-selling novel. The plot is somewhat different. This is how wikipedia summons it up: "Beach's bestselling novel of submarine warfare begins soon before the attack on Pearl Harbor. The story is ostensibly a Navy tape recording about events, as related by Richardson, resulting in his award of the Medal of Honor. An American submarine captain, Richardson is given a new boat with orders to destroy Japanese shipping in the Pacific Ocean. His executive officer and former best friend, Jim Bledsoe, is resentful because Richardson is forced to fail him after Bledsoe acts recklessly during his test for qualification for command, nearly sinking their boat. Adding to the difficulties between them, Richardson is secretly enamoured of Bledsoe's fiancee, Laura, who despises him for ruining Bledsoe's chance. During their first war patrol in the USS Walrus, they encounter the Japanese destroyer so-called the Akikaze, whose skipper, Captain Tateo Nakame, is nicknamed "Bungo Pete" and is responsible for a series of sinkings of American submarines in the Bungo Strait, including the USS Octopus, on which Richardson served, and the USS Nerka, which had been commanded by a close friend. Richardson, wounded in a subsequent encounter with Pete, remains at Pearl Harbor while Bledsoe commands the Walrus for three war patrols. Bledsoe establishes a reputation for himself as an aggressive skipper with a good rate of sinkings. Between patrols, Bledsoe has an extramarital affair at Pearl Harbor, causing Richardson some anguish for Laura's sake. During the last of the patrols, however, Bungo Pete sinks the Walrus. During his stint ashore, Richardson works on solving reliability problems with American torpedoes. When the news of the loss of Bledsoe and the Walrus arrives, Richardson convinces his superiors to let him return to the Bungo Strait and hunt Bungo Pete in a new submarine, USS Eel. A great battle ensues between the Eel and Bungo Pete's special anti-submarine warfare group, which consists of the Akikaze, a Q-ship, and a Japanese submarine. After sinking all three vessels, Richardson realizes that Bungo Pete and his skilled specialists will be rescued to resume their hunting, and rams the lifeboats intentionally to kill them. Soon after the destruction of Bungo Pete, the Eel is detailed to lifeguard duty off Guam, where Richardson's actions saving three aviators earns him the Medal of Honor. After the war he returns home, expressing his hope to begin a relationship with Laura Bledsoe."

05-09-11, 10:17 AM	#11
Daniel Prates Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Curitiba, Brazil Posts: 938 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	This is also interesting: "Beach served on submarines in the Pacific Ocean during the war, and this adds to the realism of the story. He composed two sequels to Run Silent, Run Deep: Dust on the Sea (1972) and Cold is the Sea (1978)."

05-10-11, 08:45 AM	#13
Daniel Prates Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Curitiba, Brazil Posts: 938 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Oh yeah... 'das boot'... you know, wolfgan petersen had an entire, true-to-scale, 99% precise model of a type VII, in which the film was shot? The idea was to make the actors feel as cramped as the actual u-boat crews felt. And it shows! The model had special gearing to reproduce splashing and everything. THey could hardly fit the cameras in there. I've seen a 'making of' of this movie and the making of is as great as the movie itself. And yeah, you're right. According to Mr. Wiki, again, an actual sub was only used for exterior shots. "The USS Redfish was used for many of the exterior pictures" Last edited by Daniel Prates; 05-10-11 at 02:06 PM.

05-10-11, 02:11 PM	#14
Daniel Prates Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Curitiba, Brazil Posts: 938 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	I have to insist a bit on the subject. Lookie, lookie, pictures of the mockup used in the film (das boot): Size of this preview: 800 × 533 pixels Size of this preview: 800 × 533 pixels Size of this preview: 800 × 536 pixels Size of this preview: 800 × 536 pixels

05-10-11, 02:13 PM	#15
Daniel Prates Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Curitiba, Brazil Posts: 938 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	According to wikipedia's notes on production of das boot: "The interior U-boat mock-up was mounted five metres off the floor and was shaken, rocked, and tilted up to 45 degrees by means of a hydraulic apparatus, and was vigorously shaken to simulate depth charge attacks. Petersen was admittedly obsessive about the structural detail of the U-boat set, remarking that "every screw" in the set was an authentic facsimile of the kind used in a World War II U-boat. In this he was considerably assisted by the numerous photographs Lothar-Günther Buchheim taken during his own voyage on the historical U-96, some of which had been published in his 1976 book, U-Boot-Krieg ("U-Boat War")."