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iambecomelife · 10-29-05, 11:03 PM

More trouble, Sansal. With the latest version of your tool I can't import any OBJ files at all. I always get the message "this object can't be imported" when I try to import. This even happens when I don't make any changes at all to the object. This is really strange, since the previous version worked fine. What's wrong?

iambecomelife · 10-30-05, 02:13 PM

OK; I found out that I can import objects with the new version as long as I don't double click on the subfolders. I'm still having the texture problem, though. Again, I took a C-2, cloned it, and imported it without making changes. Just importing it caused Pack3d to reverse the textures - the hull skin was on the deck, and the deck on the hull again. I have no idea what's happening here.

iambecomelife · 10-30-05, 09:55 PM

Still no progress with this. I wonder why the NKGN model doesn't have this problem? For some reason I have been able to use it as a base for the two merchants I created recently, and I didn'y have nearly as many texturing issues. If at all possible, could you design the next version of Pack3d to leave the mtl files/ texture assignments alone when importing?

UBOAT234 · 10-31-05, 12:45 PM

HI,

I have created a clone of Bismark and renamed file and in Hex... Tirpitz, its work fine. I have changed only texture in Photoshop cs.

But after, with original bismark, I have tried export 3d file, with Pack3d, and only import one obj, without to change null: - NBB_Bismark.obj, always with Pack3d.
its wrong gun...

what is?

I have examined: NBB_Bismark.dat, file original and NBB_Bismark.dat, after import obj, with ExComp and I have seen many change in Hex data... perhaps too many?

Bye UBOAT234

UBOAT234 · 10-31-05, 09:16 PM

HI, Sansal

With old Pack3d, the import object is correct. (download in rapidshare) 35kb

With new version, someone obj file, change the structure of data, and the equipment it does not remain to its place.

iambecomelife · 10-31-05, 10:05 PM

BUMP

UBOAT234 · 10-31-05, 10:17 PM

Good night...

Tomorrow try another pack3d (56k)

Have 3 file different. The first function fine but not with someone ship.

...

UBOAT234 · 11-01-05, 06:20 AM

Hi Sansal,

Confirm last version of Pack3d have a bug. I don't have knowledge for to analyze what is.
I have rework bismark uv and the gun in bottom of ship, have change node position. But with old version, I think the first version of Pack3d, it's fine. Probable this version have other problem but this case no.

This my work

In this site the paint schemes of Ship
http://www.bismarck-class.dk/bismarc...tbism1941.html

Here the problem have the first time, with new version, the last, of Pack3d (but old version, do not export obj with unit multitexture)

Bye and Good Work
UBOAT234

iambecomelife · 11-01-05, 08:17 PM

BUMP

UBOAT234 · 11-01-05, 09:29 PM

...No news pack3d...

Is vital!
power... modify data in Pack3d...

Bye
UBOAT234

UBOAT234 · 11-02-05, 12:18 PM

Hi original idea
I have try to combine object:

For construction of:
USS Kearsarge (Crane Ship # 1, later AB-1, formerly Battleship # 5), renamed Crane Ship # 1 in 1941
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/s...snsh-k/ab1.htm

Have cloned Troop Transport and extract the crane of Fiji Light Cruiser
But the problem in the bottom I had with torpitz, is also here i don't have answer...

Try&Check Costruction

Problem for me, impossible to resolve:

First Problem: Move effect smoke?

Second: Readraw crane and Bridge + hull + eraser boat on ship and other. obj

...And remap the texture (here I have don't remap for nothing)

Mine it is I invite, who is much able one in 3d in order realizing this. For me is very difficult and I do not have time for study a program for 3d. (I have just a little knowledge, and I have learned with you the use of some interesting programs).

Saluti
UBOAT234

-------
Other Experimental Work
http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/245/craneb0065oe.jpg :rotfl:

Sansal · 11-04-05, 12:36 PM

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I need to know, what ship and what parts are you changing. I understand that you don't a 3d modification, only a traslation of a part.

I don't have problems with this traslations.

I'm taking the coastal merchant's bridge (NKSQ_comanda.obj), resizing it in wings3d, and putting it on the commerce raider cargo ship's hull (NKGN). I delete the existing bridge and add this new one but it almost never works. When it does I get the deck texture as the hull texture, instead of the hull's tga. I have a strong feeling that the textures are also what cause the error message. What are the rules for textures in pack3d?

The textures need be the same in the .dat and the new 3d object. In other words, the .mtl of the new object needs to have the same materials (names and .tga) that the name_of_ship.mtl exactly the same names for a correct importation.

How to do this? There are few solutions.

The most easy is, one time you have the new object in wings3d, the first think is that change the materials of this objects for the materials existing in the new_ship.dat file, then save this new desing and you can import it to the new ship. With this we are sure that the .mtl of the new object and the textures of the new_ship.dat will be the same names.

Sorry my english. I can't explain good.

This happens I'm taking existing ships and modifying their obj files. When I move or resize objects either Pack3d or Wings3d messes up the texture scheme and I get the hull textured as the deck. I was working on the C-2 today, for example, and just moving the bridge and resizing it caused the texturing problem. Also, sometimes when I resize objects in Wings3d I get clones of the existing textures that make the model impossible to import.

Hi Iacom:

Sorry this week was bad in my job. This problems with textures, Have you change any name? The names need be the same (exactly the same label) in the dat and in the mtl.

I can't upload the las version when you can see all properties of a object. May be tomorrow.

Cheers

Sansal · 11-04-05, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by UBOAT234

HI, Sansal

With old Pack3d, the import object is correct. (download in rapidshare) 35kb

With new version, someone obj file, change the structure of data, and the equipment it does not remain to its place.

The equipment are related with his label and the file .eqp, if you have change the label of cfg#M01_this_shyp (revise this_shyp)

Cheers,

Sansal · 11-04-05, 04:00 PM

Hi:

I just upload the last version. Now we can see the proprertys of the objects in .dat, dsd, sim, val files. There are some valours that i don't jet know well.

In the next version we can see all datas of all types and changes his valours. And may be a 3d render.

Cheers,

Flakwalker · 11-04-05, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sansal

Hi:

I just upload the last version. Now we can see the proprertys of the objects in .dat, dsd, sim, val files. There are some valours that i don't jet know well.

In the next version we can see all datas of all types and changes his valours. And may be a 3d render.

Cheers,

Excelent

10-29-05, 11:03 PM	#91
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,706 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	More trouble, Sansal. With the latest version of your tool I can't import any OBJ files at all. I always get the message "this object can't be imported" when I try to import. This even happens when I don't make any changes at all to the object. This is really strange, since the previous version worked fine. What's wrong? __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

10-30-05, 02:13 PM	#92
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,706 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	OK; I found out that I can import objects with the new version as long as I don't double click on the subfolders. I'm still having the texture problem, though. Again, I took a C-2, cloned it, and imported it without making changes. Just importing it caused Pack3d to reverse the textures - the hull skin was on the deck, and the deck on the hull again. I have no idea what's happening here. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

10-30-05, 09:55 PM	#93
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,706 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	Still no progress with this. I wonder why the NKGN model doesn't have this problem? For some reason I have been able to use it as a base for the two merchants I created recently, and I didn'y have nearly as many texturing issues. If at all possible, could you design the next version of Pack3d to leave the mtl files/ texture assignments alone when importing? __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

10-31-05, 09:16 PM	#95
UBOAT234 Weps Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Repubblica di San Marino (Italy) Posts: 362 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ok HI, Sansal With old Pack3d, the import object is correct. (download in rapidshare) 35kb With new version, someone obj file, change the structure of data, and the equipment it does not remain to its place.

10-31-05, 10:05 PM	#96
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,706 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	BUMP __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

10-31-05, 12:45 PM	#94
UBOAT234 Weps Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Repubblica di San Marino (Italy) Posts: 362 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	HI, I have created a clone of Bismark and renamed file and in Hex... Tirpitz, its work fine. I have changed only texture in Photoshop cs. But after, with original bismark, I have tried export 3d file, with Pack3d, and only import one obj, without to change null: - NBB_Bismark.obj, always with Pack3d. its wrong gun... what is? I have examined: NBB_Bismark.dat, file original and NBB_Bismark.dat, after import obj, with ExComp and I have seen many change in Hex data... perhaps too many? Bye UBOAT234

10-31-05, 10:17 PM	#97
UBOAT234 Weps Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Repubblica di San Marino (Italy) Posts: 362 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hi Good night... Tomorrow try another pack3d (56k) Have 3 file different. The first function fine but not with someone ship. ...

11-01-05, 06:20 AM	#98
UBOAT234 Weps Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Repubblica di San Marino (Italy) Posts: 362 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hi Sansal Hi Sansal, Confirm last version of Pack3d have a bug. I don't have knowledge for to analyze what is. I have rework bismark uv and the gun in bottom of ship, have change node position. But with old version, I think the first version of Pack3d, it's fine. Probable this version have other problem but this case no. This my work In this site the paint schemes of Ship http://www.bismarck-class.dk/bismarc...tbism1941.html Here the problem have the first time, with new version, the last, of Pack3d (but old version, do not export obj with unit multitexture) Bye and Good Work UBOAT234

11-01-05, 08:17 PM	#99
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,706 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	BUMP __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

11-01-05, 09:29 PM	#100
UBOAT234 Weps Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Repubblica di San Marino (Italy) Posts: 362 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Bump ...No news pack3d... Is vital! power... modify data in Pack3d... Bye UBOAT234

11-02-05, 12:18 PM	#101
UBOAT234 Weps Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Repubblica di San Marino (Italy) Posts: 362 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hi original idea Hi original idea I have try to combine object: For construction of: USS Kearsarge (Crane Ship # 1, later AB-1, formerly Battleship # 5), renamed Crane Ship # 1 in 1941 http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/s...snsh-k/ab1.htm Have cloned Troop Transport and extract the crane of Fiji Light Cruiser But the problem in the bottom I had with torpitz, is also here i don't have answer... Try&Check Costruction Problem for me, impossible to resolve: First Problem: Move effect smoke? Second: Readraw crane and Bridge + hull + eraser boat on ship and other. obj ...And remap the texture (here I have don't remap for nothing) Mine it is I invite, who is much able one in 3d in order realizing this. For me is very difficult and I do not have time for study a program for 3d. (I have just a little knowledge, and I have learned with you the use of some interesting programs). Saluti UBOAT234 ------- Other Experimental Work http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/245/craneb0065oe.jpg :rotfl:

11-04-05, 04:00 PM	#104
Sansal Electrician's Mate Join Date: May 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 133 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hi: I just upload the last version. Now we can see the proprertys of the objects in .dat, dsd, sim, val files. There are some valours that i don't jet know well. In the next version we can see all datas of all types and changes his valours. And may be a 3d render. Cheers, __________________