Cameron pressures Gaddafi to step down

Gerald · 02-28-11, 07:41 AM

David Cameron has added his weight to the growing international pressure on Col Muammar Gaddafi to step down amid widespread protests against his regime.

The prime minister urged the Libyan leader to "go now" and said the country had no future "that includes him".

The UK has frozen his British-held assets and those of his family, and withdrawn their diplomatic immunity.

On Sunday, an RAF Hercules came under small-arms fire rescuing oil workers - including 20 Britons - from the desert.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12593648

Note: 28 February 2011 Last updated at 09:19 GMT

Jimbuna · 02-28-11, 07:48 AM

I doubt Camerons words will cut any ice with Gaddafi.

Feuer Frei! · 02-28-11, 07:50 AM

I don't think any amount of pressure or wherever it comes from will force him or persuade him to step down.
He was already quoted as saying recently: " "I will fight to the last drop of my blood."
And if you are thinking sanctions will, the sanctions' effect(s) would be limited. Freezing Gadhafi's accounts, enforcing a weapons embargo and not granting visas to his officials will not deter him from continuing his war against his civilians. If in countries like Iran and Sudan the sanctions were meant to encourage people to change their government or show the regimes they risked losing popular support, in Libya the popular revolt already happened, without the sanctions. And the leader couldn't care less about legitimacy in the eyes of the people. It seems the sanctions are used more to express solidarity with the Libyan people than to stop the war or penalize Gadhafi.

Jimbuna · 02-28-11, 08:33 AM

^+1 that pretty much sums it up.

Gerald · 02-28-11, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

^+1 that pretty much sums it up.

Yes indeed!

TLAM Strike · 02-28-11, 09:02 AM

Want him to step down Cameron? Have the guts to send in the boys from Hereford to help him along...

Gerald · 02-28-11, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Want him to step down Cameron? Have the guts to send in the boys from Hereford to help him along...

Well, SAS can have time..

Jimbuna · 02-28-11, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Want him to step down Cameron? Have the guts to send in the boys from Hereford to help him along...

I doubt the boys would take him seriously having seen the cuts he's imposed on the forces.

Gerald · 02-28-11, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I doubt the boys would take him seriously having seen the cuts he's imposed on the forces.

Possible you are right, but they see it as a picnic

krashkart · 02-28-11, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Want him to step down Cameron? Have the guts to send in the boys from Hereford to help him along...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard somewhere that they (the protesters) don't want any Western military intervention. (A nice way of saying, "Thanks, but no thanks. You've screwed things up enough, now its our turn to make things right.")

joea · 02-28-11, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by krashkart

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard somewhere that they (the protesters) don't want any Western military intervention. (A nice way of saying, "Thanks, but no thanks. You've screwed things up enough, now its our turn to make things right.")

Agree it's their country, their problem.

Gerald · 02-28-11, 10:29 AM

The problem is that the country could not cope with a non-foreign presence, moreover, there are many foreigners in the country who want's home

TLAM Strike · 02-28-11, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by krashkart

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard somewhere that they (the protesters) don't want any Western military intervention. (A nice way of saying, "Thanks, but no thanks. You've screwed things up enough, now its our turn to make things right.")

Didn't they also want a western backed No Fly Zone over Libya?

When Libyan forces open fire on an RAF Herc things become different.

STEED · 02-28-11, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I doubt Camerons words will cut any ice with Gaddafi.

True..

I wonder if this country has stopped selling them anti riot gear.

02-28-11, 12:53 PM

Is Cameron the Obama of the UK? It is easy to call for change after change is already happening.

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Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Cameron pressures Gaddafi to step down David Cameron has added his weight to the growing international pressure on Col Muammar Gaddafi to step down amid widespread protests against his regime. The prime minister urged the Libyan leader to "go now" and said the country had no future "that includes him". The UK has frozen his British-held assets and those of his family, and withdrawn their diplomatic immunity. On Sunday, an RAF Hercules came under small-arms fire rescuing oil workers - including 20 Britons - from the desert. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12593648 Note: 28 February 2011 Last updated at 09:19 GMT __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	I don't think any amount of pressure or wherever it comes from will force him or persuade him to step down. He was already quoted as saying recently: " "I will fight to the last drop of my blood." And if you are thinking sanctions will, the sanctions' effect(s) would be limited. Freezing Gadhafi's accounts, enforcing a weapons embargo and not granting visas to his officials will not deter him from continuing his war against his civilians. If in countries like Iran and Sudan the sanctions were meant to encourage people to change their government or show the regimes they risked losing popular support, in Libya the popular revolt already happened, without the sanctions. And the leader couldn't care less about legitimacy in the eyes of the people. It seems the sanctions are used more to express solidarity with the Libyan people than to stop the war or penalize Gadhafi. __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,520 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	^+1 that pretty much sums it up. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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