Boating question

GoldenRivet · 02-23-11, 07:26 PM

I spent most of the day getting the boat ready for spring and summer.

Today i was at the lake from about 10am to 4pm completing misc repairs, modifications, cleaning and general maintenance on the boat. We sent the canopy off to be recovered with new material, i replaced a broken 3-way trim switch and lubricated the control box and steering mechanism.

in a few days i will be cleaning the spark plugs and checking the oil and fuel filters to give the engine a little more pep (i hope).

My friend has come across a nice little 2 man, all aluminum fishing boat with a 15 Horse Evinrude engine and a trailer. The old man who owned the boat died, and the boat has not seen water in probably a decade and the widow simply gave him the boat and trailer. When the title and tags arrive and the thing is roadable we hope to have it nearly ready for the lake.

We cleaned it up the best we could and did a float test on it... everything went fine, no leaks. We have been tuning up the engine and hope to run it some time in the next few days.

Monday, the plan is to tow it to the car wash where we can put a high pressure sprayer on the boat, then use a chemical stripper to remove all the old paint from the entire boat.

once we get all the paint off the plan was to put on some aluminum oxide primer and paint the hull red. and the interior of the boat a gull gray color.

I have my buddy talked into getting a do it yourself bed liner (Rhino Liner) and coating every inch of the interior in light gray rhino liner.

my question is... would there be any problems - in the hydrodynamic sense with getting the exterior hull coated in Red Rhino Liner as opposed to just painting it red?

Seeing that it is powered by a 15 horse outboard motor, and will not be achieving any great speed i dont think there should be any issue with it. In fact i think it would look fantastic.

I guess the pros would be that any scratches and scrapes from submerged logs or sticks etc would be easily brushed off by a truck bed liner and cleanup would be as easy as just spraying the whole thing inside and out with a water hose.

Platapus · 02-23-11, 07:28 PM

Would that not make cleaning it next time much harder?

Gerald · 02-23-11, 07:31 PM

Normally no problem, but the color should be of a quality to be as friction free as possible and to prevent algae and other debris in the water to get a grip on the hull

GoldenRivet · 02-23-11, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Would that not make cleaning it next time much harder?

How do you mean?

When bed liners get mud and grime on them you usually just hose them off.

or are you talking about the next time someone wants to strip it down?

nikimcbee · 02-23-11, 07:32 PM

To answer your question; Yes I will gladly go fishing with you.

Wait, wut?

How much weight will that coating stuff add? Would that be an issue?

GoldenRivet · 02-23-11, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

To answer your question; Yes I will gladly go fishing with you.

any time man!

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

How much weight will that coating stuff add? Would that be an issue?

the nagging weight issue has been making noise in the back of my mind.

putting a spray in liner in the interior might not be such a big deal... but its shaping up that the exterior might be a bit of a pain.

Gerald · 02-23-11, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

any time man!

the nagging weight issue has been making noise in the back of my mind.

putting a spray in liner in the interior might not be such a big deal... but its shaping up that the exterior might be a bit of a pain.

It costs to be on top

Platapus · 02-23-11, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

How do you mean?

When bed liners get mud and grime on them you usually just hose them off.

or are you talking about the next time someone wants to strip it down?

The Rhino Liner is the non-skid coating right? Or is there a smooth one also?

The only Rhino Liners I have seen are rough tough coatings to withstand bumping scraping and be non-skid. I would think that dirt and other boating crud would stick to it and be harder to wash off.

nikimcbee · 02-23-11, 07:38 PM

I'll ask a co-worker, who's into boating. brb

breadcatcher101 · 02-23-11, 07:43 PM

Yeah, weight is the thing, go with what ever will add the least amount of weight to your boat.

One of mine is an old Cartercraft 14 footer, the last year they made ply wood boats. Picked her up used for nothing, had some rot, dug it out and re-enforced with fiberglass, also the same on the outside hull below the waterline. 20 horses is more than enough although I have a 15 horse, hasn't been in the water for years, just too many people out and about to really enjoy myself, plus the added need to maintain everything.

My other boat, a ultra light 10 ft alum jon boat, ideal for those places where others will not dare, very shallow draft. To get my "motor" ready for summer all I do is dust off the oar--works for me, and I catch a lot of fish.

Rockstar · 02-23-11, 09:20 PM

Be sure what ever paint system you apply that it is formulated for whatever surface you intend to cover. Otherwise the paint will react in ways that weaken the adhesion of the paint system and or metal surfaces.

Depending on the condition and use of the boat I'd #1 sand it, treat the bare metal, apply an aluminum primer and paint system; #2 get a can of cheap spray paint or #3 leave it bare metal.

Whats the cost of this rino liner stuff? Nothing ever lasts in a marine enviroment. Expect to re-coat in the future.

nikimcbee · 02-23-11, 11:34 PM

So, I say get a bigger engine. Make your wife get a job to pay for it! She rides in it, charge her admission. bam-o! you gots a new engine!

My co-worker mentioned the weight issue too. But it might add a little bit of drag.

GoldenRivet · 02-24-11, 10:52 AM

thanks for the help guys.

I think he will do a bed liner on the inside of the boat as opposed to that splatter paint stuff.

hull will be painted gloss red.

so far thats the decision... now we have to wait for a string of sunny days

AVGWarhawk · 02-24-11, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

thanks for the help guys.

I think he will do a bed liner on the inside of the boat as opposed to that splatter paint stuff.

hull will be painted gloss red.

so far thats the decision... now we have to wait for a string of sunny days

I would go with this plan as well. Enjoy!

Sailor Steve · 02-24-11, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

To answer your question; Yes I will gladly go fishing with you.

Wait, wut?

I don't fish, but you remind me of a favorite old saying from a Sailing Instructor: "I can teach a man how to sail. I can't teach him why."

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So, I say get a bigger engine. Make your wife get a job to pay for it! She rides in it, charge her admission. bam-o! you gots a new engine!

My co-worker mentioned the weight issue too. But it might add a little bit of drag.

Sorry, I know exactly what you meant, but seeing the "weight issue" mentioned immediately after the first sentence...well...

02-23-11, 07:32 PM	#5
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	To answer your question; Yes I will gladly go fishing with you. Wait, wut? How much weight will that coating stuff add? Would that be an issue? __________________

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nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I'll ask a co-worker, who's into boating. brb __________________

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nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	So, I say get a bigger engine. Make your wife get a job to pay for it! She rides in it, charge her admission. bam-o! you gots a new engine! My co-worker mentioned the weight issue too. But it might add a little bit of drag. __________________

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	thanks for the help guys. I think he will do a bed liner on the inside of the boat as opposed to that splatter paint stuff. hull will be painted gloss red. so far thats the decision... now we have to wait for a string of sunny days __________________

02-23-11, 07:26 PM	#1
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Boating question I spent most of the day getting the boat ready for spring and summer. Today i was at the lake from about 10am to 4pm completing misc repairs, modifications, cleaning and general maintenance on the boat. We sent the canopy off to be recovered with new material, i replaced a broken 3-way trim switch and lubricated the control box and steering mechanism. in a few days i will be cleaning the spark plugs and checking the oil and fuel filters to give the engine a little more pep (i hope). My friend has come across a nice little 2 man, all aluminum fishing boat with a 15 Horse Evinrude engine and a trailer. The old man who owned the boat died, and the boat has not seen water in probably a decade and the widow simply gave him the boat and trailer. When the title and tags arrive and the thing is roadable we hope to have it nearly ready for the lake. We cleaned it up the best we could and did a float test on it... everything went fine, no leaks. We have been tuning up the engine and hope to run it some time in the next few days. Monday, the plan is to tow it to the car wash where we can put a high pressure sprayer on the boat, then use a chemical stripper to remove all the old paint from the entire boat. once we get all the paint off the plan was to put on some aluminum oxide primer and paint the hull red. and the interior of the boat a gull gray color. I have my buddy talked into getting a do it yourself bed liner (Rhino Liner) and coating every inch of the interior in light gray rhino liner. my question is... would there be any problems - in the hydrodynamic sense with getting the exterior hull coated in Red Rhino Liner as opposed to just painting it red? Seeing that it is powered by a 15 horse outboard motor, and will not be achieving any great speed i dont think there should be any issue with it. In fact i think it would look fantastic. I guess the pros would be that any scratches and scrapes from submerged logs or sticks etc would be easily brushed off by a truck bed liner and cleanup would be as easy as just spraying the whole thing inside and out with a water hose. __________________

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,362 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Would that not make cleaning it next time much harder? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Normally no problem, but the color should be of a quality to be as friction free as possible and to prevent algae and other debris in the water to get a grip on the hull __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

02-23-11, 07:43 PM	#10
breadcatcher101 Captain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 546 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Yeah, weight is the thing, go with what ever will add the least amount of weight to your boat. One of mine is an old Cartercraft 14 footer, the last year they made ply wood boats. Picked her up used for nothing, had some rot, dug it out and re-enforced with fiberglass, also the same on the outside hull below the waterline. 20 horses is more than enough although I have a 15 horse, hasn't been in the water for years, just too many people out and about to really enjoy myself, plus the added need to maintain everything. My other boat, a ultra light 10 ft alum jon boat, ideal for those places where others will not dare, very shallow draft. To get my "motor" ready for summer all I do is dust off the oar--works for me, and I catch a lot of fish.

02-23-11, 09:20 PM	#11
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Be sure what ever paint system you apply that it is formulated for whatever surface you intend to cover. Otherwise the paint will react in ways that weaken the adhesion of the paint system and or metal surfaces. Depending on the condition and use of the boat I'd #1 sand it, treat the bare metal, apply an aluminum primer and paint system; #2 get a can of cheap spray paint or #3 leave it bare metal. Whats the cost of this rino liner stuff? Nothing ever lasts in a marine enviroment. Expect to re-coat in the future.