Just got screwed over by Intel....

the_tyrant · 02-08-11, 05:12 PM

My new computer parts came in, all is good, until i read to the side of the box.
it says:"For information regarding heat sinks please visit intel.com/go/thermal"

the web page said:

Quote:

To offer more purchasing flexibility and reduce waste and cost for customers with other sources for heat sinks, the Intel® Xeon® processor 5500 series no longer includes a heat sink in the box. The boxed Intel® Thermal Solution STS100 series is available through the same distributors and offers the same three-year limited warranty as boxed processors.

Also, it seems like its just for screwing with us high end users, because the webpage also says:
"The Intel® Xeon® processor 3500 series includes a heat sink for single-socket systems in the box."

if only I was cheaper, and i spent less money on a cheaper processor I could have gotten a heat sink

Why didn't newegg just say that no heat sink was included!!!! After all, after spending $500 on a CPU they should at least tell us no heat sink is included.

Lord_magerius · 02-08-11, 05:35 PM

That sounds perfectly reasonable to me

They really did screw you over there.

DarkFish · 02-08-11, 07:01 PM

Baked transistors, yummy!

A few weeks ago I had to design a DC/DC converter at uni. One switching transistor had 3 Amps running through it, at 16V. You really did not want to touch that thing

gimpy117 · 02-08-11, 07:05 PM

you can get some nice after market coolers. never fear!!

the_tyrant · 02-08-11, 07:22 PM

The local best buy has heat sinks for nearly $50, I might as well buy a second hand fridge

on the bright side,
My new cpu!

Gargamel · 02-08-11, 07:25 PM

Why is it backwards?

I've noticed numerous times on Newegg when they've specified that now cooler came with a CPU. Odd they would miss that one.

So basically, you got a new chip, with no cooling options at all? That sucks.

bookworm_020 · 02-08-11, 07:39 PM

Makes Microsoft look all warm and fuzzy!

the_tyrant · 02-08-11, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gargamel

Why is it backwards?

I've noticed numerous times on Newegg when they've specified that now cooler came with a CPU. Odd they would miss that one.

So basically, you got a new chip, with no cooling options at all? That sucks.

Cheap HP webcam reverses everything
Its not all that bad, I'm using an x58 motherboard with this chip, so i can just go and get myself a heatsink

Arclight · 02-09-11, 02:48 AM

Er, X58? Why a server CPU in a desktop, presumably gaming system?

the_tyrant · 02-09-11, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight

Er, X58? Why a server CPU in a desktop, presumably gaming system?

The price of Core i7 Extremes are well, Extremely high
This Xeon "only" cost me 400 something while a Core i7 extreme would cost me like $1000.
Surprisingly, newegg Canada does not have newer 32nm i7s, only older 45nm ones!
Only i7 950 and i7 870 are available, and they sell for 300 something. So the Xeon 5620 at only 80w, 32nm, 12mb L3 catch seems like a great choice.
Plus I am very interested in the new AES instruction set

Arclight · 02-09-11, 07:29 AM

Well then the question becomes "why on earth would you get an extreme edition?".

If the price is right it makes sense, but normally Xeons are more expensive than their desktop counterparts. You do get the cream of the crop though, so it's a favourite for overclockers, like those "extreme" editions.

Not sure how much use AES is on an average desktop, but it can't hurt.

Newegg not having it doesn't surprise me; the reason they are so bloody cheap is because they buy in large batches, so they'll want to get rid of old stock first. Had some trouble here in Holland tracking down a Q9550 with the latest revisions (E0) at the time... rather expensive too.

And lack of a cooler... well, it is a server part. I'm not sure, but I doubt servers run the default cooler, with heat being such a primary concern in those machines.

the_tyrant · 02-09-11, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight

Well then the question becomes "why on earth would you get an extreme edition?".

If the price is right it makes sense, but normally Xeons are more expensive than their desktop counterparts. You do get the cream of the crop though, so it's a favourite for overclockers, like those "extreme" editions.

Not sure how much use AES is on an average desktop, but it can't hurt.

Newegg not having it doesn't surprise me; the reason they are so bloody cheap is because they buy in large batches, so they'll want to get rid of old stock first. Had some trouble here in Holland tracking down a Q9550 with the latest revisions (E0) at the time... rather expensive too.

And lack of a cooler... well, it is a server part. I'm not sure, but I doubt servers run the default cooler, with heat being such a primary concern in those machines.

Well Newegg is like the only good source of parts in Canada. At this price Xeons seem like a good choice.
Xeons used to come with coolers, not anymore though starting from this new generation of Xeons
As for AES, after my little brother almost discovered my porn, I encrypt all my porn now

Arclight · 02-09-11, 09:08 AM

Fair enough.

AES should save you some time then, if the collection is... substantial.

At any rate, just get a nice 3rd party cooler, keep that Xeon nice and cool. Would advice that for any gaming rig really.

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Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Well then the question becomes "why on earth would you get an extreme edition?". If the price is right it makes sense, but normally Xeons are more expensive than their desktop counterparts. You do get the cream of the crop though, so it's a favourite for overclockers, like those "extreme" editions. Not sure how much use AES is on an average desktop, but it can't hurt. Newegg not having it doesn't surprise me; the reason they are so bloody cheap is because they buy in large batches, so they'll want to get rid of old stock first. Had some trouble here in Holland tracking down a Q9550 with the latest revisions (E0) at the time... rather expensive too. And lack of a cooler... well, it is a server part. I'm not sure, but I doubt servers run the default cooler, with heat being such a primary concern in those machines. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

02-09-11, 09:08 AM	#13
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Fair enough. AES should save you some time then, if the collection is... substantial. At any rate, just get a nice 3rd party cooler, keep that Xeon nice and cool. Would advice that for any gaming rig really. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.