New GFX card install

nikbear · 01-18-11, 07:31 AM

Whats the correct way to install my new card,remove old one and install new,then D/L new drivers,or D/L new drivers first,then install new card and run new drivers

,want to do this properly

They are both Nvidia GFX cards by the way! In case that makes any difference

Feuer Frei! · 01-18-11, 07:53 AM

Uninstall current graphics card drivers.

This avoids possible conflicts later on.

* At this stage you can download the new graphics card drivers from the manufacturer's website.

2. Remove old card.

3. Install new card.

4. Install new drivers.

This is the simplest way of doing it,

nikbear · 01-19-11, 01:36 AM

Thank you for the help,just used to take the old card out ,wham the other in and D/L,I shall follow your advice

nikbear · 01-19-11, 06:43 AM

Having a problem,I followed your advice,removed my GTX8800 and installed my AsusGTX260,it appears to be working,making a hell of a noise like a hairdryer

but no picture appears,just black screen

Can't think what it could be

DVI Connected

2 6pin PSU Leads connected

Just no picture

Am I missing something

jumpy · 01-19-11, 07:13 AM

You tried booting into safe mode, then removing old/installing the new display drivers? You should be ok with this as safe mode will use the basic windows default display settings. It should enable you to find out what's going on.

Assuming you have:
1) DL new drivers to hdd
2) uninstalled old card drivers (may need special removal tool?)
3) removed old hardware
4) fit new gfx hardware
5) install new display drivers.

I guess you could have a problem with the display resolution or something - in the past I've pushed the rezzo or refresh rate past what the monitor can stand, this generally ends up with a black screen. Boot to safe mode, then check computer management/device manager/display adapters - you should be able to tell if the new drivers are installed, and then also force any incompatible resolution back to something sensible using the right click on desktop/properties/display properties/settings tab (xp pro here, but the basics are much the same under vista, most likely w7 too).

have you got the agp/pci/pcie or whatever set in your bios, this is usually automatic, but you never know?

EDIT: Worst case scenario, has your PSU got enough juice to run the card?

Feuer Frei! · 01-19-11, 07:49 AM

The GTX needs 500w min.,
some people have reported that their primary head on the video card changes with the most recent driver updates. Check the secondary connection to see if that has been enabled as the primary.

Reseat the graphics card and reconnected both power cables on the GPU.Check the modular power connections to the PSU.

What version of drivers did you download? 32-bit or 64-bit? Check this.

It sound like the new drivers are selecting a resolution that your monitor doesn't support?

Try- Boot, Hold F8 - Select Enable Low Resolution mode (640x480). This will enable Windows to load with full driver support at a set resolution of 640x480x32@60Hz. You should then be able to open the nVidia Control Centre and select your monitors native resolution.

What about trying the other port on the video card (use an adapter if needed). Maybe the driver has changed the order and it now thinks that your monitor is monitor 2 (which by default is off until extended)

Let us know how you go.

nikbear · 01-19-11, 08:18 AM

Tried both ports of the 260,still nuthin,I would boot in safe mode but......I can't see anything,screen is just black,nothing appears at all

The PSU is a 1000watt I-cute model and running fine

Ive reinstalled my GTX8800 and everything is running fine again

Im wondering if the 260 is duff
The drivers were the correct ones,just released from Nvidia
the display is set at native 1680x1050 60Hz for my Samsung Syncmaster 22in
Im at a loss as to why its not working,unless its knackered

Herr-Berbunch · 01-19-11, 08:25 AM

Check your BIOS settings are for external, not internal VGA. Or you may want to drop down a driver version or two.

Feuer Frei! · 01-19-11, 08:32 AM

Hmm, strange, i was leaning towards a loose connection or the like, does the P.C. actually boot up?
Or does it freeze?
Do you get sound at all? If it boots up? What is the LED doing on the monitor? The status light, ie standby mode, off/on?

Do you get the Windows logo when booting up? Or nothing?
The 7 and 8 series cards had a notorius black screen issue.
Which doesn't affect you ofc.

The only other thing i can think of is that it may be the old drivers not being uninstalled properly, ie interfering with the new one.
Could well be a driver issue, like Herr said.

The 'hairdryer' noise is a issue.

nikbear · 01-19-11, 10:32 AM

The PC boots up,you can hear the HD's going and everything like the fans and stuff are working,but on the screen,nothing

just blackness
the monitor light is flashing,instead of just being on

Herr-Berbunch · 01-19-11, 10:38 AM

Do you have an on-board graphics connection? If so try plugging monitor into that. The blinking light on monitor suggests not getting any signal.

As for the hairdryer, is it constant or does it die down after a few minutes, is it definately from the new card?

nikbear · 01-19-11, 11:30 AM

Yeah,'Hairdryer' sound is from new card,and no,it doesn't die down after a while,its constant

Jan Kyster · 01-19-11, 02:46 PM

It may be something as simple as a bad connection.

Try removing cables and card. Reinsert card a couple of times, make sure it's pressed all the way down.
Insert and remove cables too... and HDMI.

The fan will always go ahead flank during initializing, but will also calm down very fast. Under normal conditions that is.

Card may be bad.

nikbear · 01-19-11, 06:12 PM

Well going on your advice from all of you,I thought about loose connections and found one were the heatshrink had moved away from the end and was touching the chassis

Now Im not sure if that is what was causing the problem,but after dealing with that,and retrying the card,......Its working

(Touch a rather large wooden object

)
Would that be enough to cause those symptoms

Feuer Frei! · 01-19-11, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikbear

Well going on your advice from all of you,I thought about loose connections and found one were the heatshrink had moved away from the end and was touching the chassis

Now Im not sure if that is what was causing the problem,but after dealing with that,and retrying the card,......Its working

(Touch a rather large wooden object

)
Would that be enough to cause those symptoms

It could well be, dust under the CPU, PSU issues, a short circuit, accumulating heat, monitors have been known to damage gpu's due to static.....
a whole raft of things really.
Glad that finally things are working though

How's the fan (noise)?

01-18-11, 07:31 AM	#1
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	New GFX card install Whats the correct way to install my new card,remove old one and install new,then D/L new drivers,or D/L new drivers first,then install new card and run new drivers,want to do this properly They are both Nvidia GFX cards by the way! In case that makes any difference __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

01-18-11, 07:53 AM	#2
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	Uninstall current graphics card drivers. This avoids possible conflicts later on. * At this stage you can download the new graphics card drivers from the manufacturer's website. 2. Remove old card. 3. Install new card. 4. Install new drivers. This is the simplest way of doing it, __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

01-19-11, 01:36 AM	#3
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Thank you for the help,just used to take the old card out ,wham the other in and D/L,I shall follow your advice __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

01-19-11, 06:43 AM	#4
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Having a problem,I followed your advice,removed my GTX8800 and installed my AsusGTX260,it appears to be working,making a hell of a noise like a hairdryer but no picture appears,just black screen Can't think what it could be DVI Connected 2 6pin PSU Leads connected Just no picture Am I missing something __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

01-19-11, 07:13 AM	#5
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	You tried booting into safe mode, then removing old/installing the new display drivers? You should be ok with this as safe mode will use the basic windows default display settings. It should enable you to find out what's going on. Assuming you have: 1) DL new drivers to hdd 2) uninstalled old card drivers (may need special removal tool?) 3) removed old hardware 4) fit new gfx hardware 5) install new display drivers. I guess you could have a problem with the display resolution or something - in the past I've pushed the rezzo or refresh rate past what the monitor can stand, this generally ends up with a black screen. Boot to safe mode, then check computer management/device manager/display adapters - you should be able to tell if the new drivers are installed, and then also force any incompatible resolution back to something sensible using the right click on desktop/properties/display properties/settings tab (xp pro here, but the basics are much the same under vista, most likely w7 too). have you got the agp/pci/pcie or whatever set in your bios, this is usually automatic, but you never know? EDIT: Worst case scenario, has your PSU got enough juice to run the card? __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

01-19-11, 07:49 AM	#6
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	The GTX needs 500w min., some people have reported that their primary head on the video card changes with the most recent driver updates. Check the secondary connection to see if that has been enabled as the primary. Reseat the graphics card and reconnected both power cables on the GPU.Check the modular power connections to the PSU. What version of drivers did you download? 32-bit or 64-bit? Check this. It sound like the new drivers are selecting a resolution that your monitor doesn't support? Try- Boot, Hold F8 - Select Enable Low Resolution mode (640x480). This will enable Windows to load with full driver support at a set resolution of 640x480x32@60Hz. You should then be able to open the nVidia Control Centre and select your monitors native resolution. What about trying the other port on the video card (use an adapter if needed). Maybe the driver has changed the order and it now thinks that your monitor is monitor 2 (which by default is off until extended) Let us know how you go. __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

01-19-11, 08:18 AM	#7
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Tried both ports of the 260,still nuthin,I would boot in safe mode but......I can't see anything,screen is just black,nothing appears at all The PSU is a 1000watt I-cute model and running fine Ive reinstalled my GTX8800 and everything is running fine again Im wondering if the 260 is duff The drivers were the correct ones,just released from Nvidia the display is set at native 1680x1050 60Hz for my Samsung Syncmaster 22in Im at a loss as to why its not working,unless its knackered __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

01-19-11, 08:25 AM	#8
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Check your BIOS settings are for external, not internal VGA. Or you may want to drop down a driver version or two. __________________

01-19-11, 08:32 AM	#9
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	Hmm, strange, i was leaning towards a loose connection or the like, does the P.C. actually boot up? Or does it freeze? Do you get sound at all? If it boots up? What is the LED doing on the monitor? The status light, ie standby mode, off/on? Do you get the Windows logo when booting up? Or nothing? The 7 and 8 series cards had a notorius black screen issue. Which doesn't affect you ofc. The only other thing i can think of is that it may be the old drivers not being uninstalled properly, ie interfering with the new one. Could well be a driver issue, like Herr said. The 'hairdryer' noise is a issue. __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

01-19-11, 10:32 AM	#10
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	The PC boots up,you can hear the HD's going and everything like the fans and stuff are working,but on the screen,nothing just blackness the monitor light is flashing,instead of just being on __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

01-19-11, 10:38 AM	#11
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Do you have an on-board graphics connection? If so try plugging monitor into that. The blinking light on monitor suggests not getting any signal. As for the hairdryer, is it constant or does it die down after a few minutes, is it definately from the new card? __________________

01-19-11, 11:30 AM	#12
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Yeah,'Hairdryer' sound is from new card,and no,it doesn't die down after a while,its constant __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

01-19-11, 02:46 PM	#13
Jan Kyster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,151 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	It may be something as simple as a bad connection. Try removing cables and card. Reinsert card a couple of times, make sure it's pressed all the way down. Insert and remove cables too... and HDMI. The fan will always go ahead flank during initializing, but will also calm down very fast. Under normal conditions that is. Card may be bad.

01-19-11, 06:12 PM	#14
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Well going on your advice from all of you,I thought about loose connections and found one were the heatshrink had moved away from the end and was touching the chassis Now Im not sure if that is what was causing the problem,but after dealing with that,and retrying the card,......Its working(Touch a rather large wooden object) Would that be enough to cause those symptoms __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.